Minnesota's Best Duo?

greenbandit · Post by **greenbandit** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:02 pm

Bergland/Zierke would be my vote, two great athletes with a little attitude

tshockey2 · Post by **tshockey2** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:45 pm

This one is very easy it's Derek Stepan and David Toews from Shattuck. They both have over 50 points in 26 games playing against way better players than Minnesota high school players. You should see these two kids move it on the Power Play. I watched about 10 of there Elite games. It is fun to watch.

scoreboard33 · Post by **scoreboard33** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:10 pm

tshockey2 wrote:This one is very easy it's Derek Stepan and David Toews from Shattuck. They both have over 50 points in 26 games playing against way better players than Minnesota high school players. You should see these two kids move it on the Power Play. I watched about 10 of there Elite games. It is fun to watch.

Shattuck is not in the MSHSL, but they probably would be the best duo in the state.

lampthelight · Post by **lampthelight** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:08 am

DPA MacManus wrote:Best MN duo??? Gotta be Tarvaris Jackson & Troy Williamson!!!

With Williamson's hands, I don't think this duo can be beat.

Hillfan · Post by **Hillfan** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:17 am

Williamson just waved his career goodbye...as a Viking at least. AFL bound? I think so.

MNNORTHSTAR · Post by **MNNORTHSTAR** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:03 am

Jake Johnson 13g 24a & Chris Stafne 20g 13a Duluth Denfeld (13 games)

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:24 am

tshockey2 wrote:This one is very easy it's Derek Stepan and David Toews from Shattuck. They both have over 50 points in 26 games playing against way better players than Minnesota high school players. You should see these two kids move it on the Power Play. I watched about 10 of there Elite games. It is fun to watch.

Its not as if Stepan and Toews were both brought up among the same youth ranks like most of these other kids being discussed. If you want to just start throwing names together from various places, we could find a number of guys that could rival or surpass the duo you mentioned.

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:25 am

Hillfan wrote:Williamson just waved his career goodbye...as a Viking at least. AFL bound? I think so.

I think a guy with cement blocks wrapped around his hands could catch the ball better than Williamson.

snapdog · Post by **snapdog** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:04 am

I haven,t seen Johnson and Stafne yet this year but I know its fun to watch. The best duo I,ve seen up North so far this year is Hibbings Decenzo and Jamnick. Explosive and exciting. Now I haven't got to see I Falls yet but I hear tell Youso and his linemates are pretty fun to watch as well. Another nice duo I did see was Hafferty and Mausoff at Duluth Marshall. Happy New Year.

irishfan08 · Post by **irishfan08** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:25 am

ROOK EYE wrote:James Saintey and anyone else he plays with. This kid can play.. One of the true travesties of the year that he was not asked to play in the Tier 1. Russo and his collection shold be ashamed.

this kid use to be the one who played with percy and brown at rosemount and that trio was amazing and they would have been unstopable had he not left to STA

Royaltreatment · Post by **Royaltreatment** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:08 pm

I would agree with you Mr. Irish. I watched this kid last year a few times once being at the State Tournamet. I watch him in the Scwans cup this year. This kid does things with the the puck most players only dream of doing. He makes everyone around him a better player. Very unselfish as well. He made passes to his linemates where alot of these better known hotdogs out there would shoot. He made Chris Student from BSM look like a rookie more than once. GOD only knows how good Rosemount would be had Sianty and the Walters kid stayed.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:33 pm

[quote="Royaltreatment"]I would agree with you Mr. Irish. I watched this kid last year a few times once being at the State Tournamet. I watch him in the Scwans cup this year. This kid does things with the the puck most players only dream of doing. He makes everyone around him a better player. Very unselfish as well. He made passes to his linemates where alot of these better known hotdogs out there would shoot. He made Chris Student from BSM look like a rookie more than once. GOD only knows how good Rosemount would be had Sianty and the Walters kid stayed.[/quote]

Several schools would be better if they had't lost talented players to privates, NTDP, Juniors, etc.

GR3343 · Post by **GR3343** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:55 pm

Bob Lee & Elliot

Royaltreatment · Post by **Royaltreatment** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:58 pm

My point is. From what i've seen. Sainty and Walters are the real deal. Both these kids are "A" players not all kids that defect are "A" players. One man's opinion, but Rosemount would be at or near the top of any ranking, had this pair stayed. Both these kids are MVP type players. Give me another example of 2 like players defecting that would have as much impact on thier team..

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:13 pm

Royaltreatment wrote:My point is. From what i've seen. Sainty and Walters are the real deal. Both these kids are "A" players not all kids that defect are "A" players. One man's opinion, but Rosemount would be at or near the top of any ranking, had this pair stayed. Both these kids are MVP type players. Give me another example of 2 like players defecting that would have as much impact on thier team..

How about Kristo and Wetmore from Eden Prairie? Kristo is the Captain of the U18 NTDP Team.............will be heading to UND and will certainly be a high 1st round draft pick. Wetmore is an Elite League player and one of Holy Angels best players.

I believe you were just trumped

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:15 pm

EREmpireStrikesBack wrote:packerboy & Govs

You're half right.

pioneerhockey12 · Post by **pioneerhockey12** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:18 pm

defecting players huh.... how bout jordan schroeder, tony mergens, aaron crandall, john schreiner, and sean mcmahon

pioneerhockey12 · Post by **pioneerhockey12** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:19 pm

from lakeville

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:38 pm

pioneerhockey12 wrote:defecting players huh.... how bout jordan schroeder, tony mergens, aaron crandall, john schreiner, and sean mcmahon

Great examples of my point in a previous post. I could pick other schools as well.

Royaltreatment · Post by **Royaltreatment** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:43 pm

Yes, Breakout you are 1/2 right, but no way can you compare Wetmore to Saintey or Walters. Pioneer you maybe 1/2 right as well. Now with the split schools at Lakeville would they all have ended up at the same school? No way of really telling who's defection meant the most to their former teams, but just my opinion from watching these 2 kids play they are a treat. Actually take it 1 step further and throw Schraeder, Crandall, Larson, and Lee back (all would still be eligible i believe) on this current STA team you would have had a team no one in the Country would have touched for year's too come..

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:53 pm

Royaltreatment wrote:Yes, Breakout you are 1/2 right, but no way can you compare Wetmore to Saintey or Walters. Pioneer you maybe 1/2 right as well. Now with the split schools at Lakeville would they all have ended up at the same school? No way of really telling who's defection meant the most to their former teams, but just my opinion from watching these 2 kids play they are a treat. Actually take it 1 step further and throw Schraeder, Crandall, Larson, and Lee back (all would still be eligible i believe) on this current STA team you would have had a team no one in the Country would have touched for year's too come..

Let's see:

Wetmore = Elite League player...........Sainty not. There's your comparison.
Kristo = Captain of U18 NTDP team

The comparison was about Rosemount in the first place. I came up with one reference. We could keep going and reference other teams.

Too argue that a team (STA) with those players, although it would be very strong couldn't be beaten is an exageration

Royaltreatment · Post by **Royaltreatment** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:50 pm

Everone knows the process to choosing these so called Elite teams is mostly political. How else can you explain a school like BSM haveing 7-8 kids on the Elite teams and St Thomas only having 1? A few nights back i witnessed it first hand. St Thomas had by far the more skilled players. Chris Student although a skilled player is just 1 example. His defensive skills leave much to be desired. From what i saw STA had at least 3 defensman that played better Defense than he did. Austin Wetmore is a skilled player, but in my opinion is not in the same class as James Saintey or Ryan Walters. I'm just disagreeing with your comparison. Pioneer had a better comparison, but either way there are very few schools that lost the impact players Rosemount did.

greenbandit · Post by **greenbandit** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:26 pm

BSM only had 5 kids on the Elite 1 league and 3 of them for sure belonged there. I know that the selection process is a sticky subject but all teams like this are subject to critism. Look at the Advanced 15, 16 & 17's....the history of this process can also be subject to a lot more critism than that of the Elite 1 League. Your STA guys have been shown respect with selecting Schroeder as a 9th grader, Walters and Crandell the others over the last year or two.

GopherPuckPlayer · Post by **GopherPuckPlayer** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:40 pm

The Hanowski brothers work well together!

sinbombyzermancurve · Post by **sinbombyzermancurve** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:49 pm

Royaltreatment wrote:Everone knows the process to choosing these so called Elite teams is mostly political. How else can you explain a school like BSM haveing 7-8 kids on the Elite teams and St Thomas only having 1? A few nights back i witnessed it first hand. St Thomas had by far the more skilled players. Chris Student although a skilled player is just 1 example. His defensive skills leave much to be desired. From what i saw STA had at least 3 defensman that played better Defense than he did. Austin Wetmore is a skilled player, but in my opinion is not in the same class as James Saintey or Ryan Walters. I'm just disagreeing with your comparison. Pioneer had a better comparison, but either way there are very few schools that lost the impact players Rosemount did.

I will agree with you that the elite process is very, very political if you are in the northern half of the state, otherise if you are good or so called great in this case, and are from anywhere around the cities, you better be making the elite league or somethen else is wrong

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