2011-12 KRACH RANKINGS - FINAL - Updated 02/26

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:39 am

MNHockeyFan wrote:With these plus Knight7's scores above I believe there are only two games still outstanding:

Thursday, February 2, 2012
St. Cloud vs. Alexandria
5:15 PM at Alexandria

Thief River Falls vs. Park Rapids Area
7:30 PM at Park Rapids

One other score:
Thursday, February 2, 2012
St. Cloud 0, Alexandria 2

Now just the TRF/Park Rapids game outstanding.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:17 am

Knight7 wrote:Thursday, February 2, 2012
St. Cloud vs. Alexandria
5:15 PM at Alexandria
Breck 4 vs. Blake 2
7:30 PM at Blake
Proctor/Hermantown 0 vs. Duluth 2
6:00 PM at Duluth
Crookston 5 vs. East Grand Forks 6
7:30 PM at East Grand Forks
Buffalo 3 vs. Hutchinson 2
7:00 PM at Hutchinson
Eveleth-Gilbert vs. International Falls
7:30 PM at International Falls
Pequot Lakes vs. LPGE/WDC
7:00 PM at Wadena
Eden Prairie 1 vs. Minnetonka 6
7:00 PM at Minnetonka
North Wright County vs. Moorhead
7:30 PM at Moorhead
Red Wing 9 vs. New Prague 4
7:15 PM at New Prague
Rochester Mayo 1 vs. Owatonna 4
7:00 PM at Owatonna
Thief River Falls vs. Park Rapids Area
7:30 PM at Park Rapids
Fergus Falls vs. River Lakes
7:00 PM at Paynesville, MN
Benilde-St. Margaret's 8 vs. Spring Lk Pk/St. Anth Vill 0
7:30 PM at Spring Lk Pk/St. Anth Vill
Totino-Grace 4 vs. St. Francis/North Branch 1
7:00 PM at St. Francis/North Branch
Moose Lake Area 3 vs. Webster 4
7:00 PM at Webster
Brainerd/Little Falls 1 vs. Willmar 5
7:00 PM at Willmar
Rochester Century 2 vs. Winona 7
7:30 PM at Winona

These were on hockeyhub

Thanks!!!

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:18 am

MNHockeyFan wrote:More scores from the Hub and/or MSHSL's site:

Thursday, February 2, 2012
Eveleth-Gilbert 0, International Falls 3
Pequot Lakes 7, LPGE/WDC 2
North Wright County 3, Moorhead 5
Fergus Falls 4, River Lakes 6

Also, a correction on the BSM/Spring Lake Park score - it should be:
Benilde-St. Margaret's 6, Spring Lk Pk/St. Anth Vill 0
(see game sheet – and both the MSHSL's and school’s websites confirm it was 6-0)

Tue, January 31, 2012
Albert Lea 2, Mankato West 4
Rosemount 3, Eastview 2

Sat, January 28, 2012
SB/TH/CC/Ely/NE Range 9, Grantsburg 5

Thu, January 26, 2012
Detroit Lakes 1, Pequot Lakes 2

With these plus Knight7's scores above I believe there are only two games still outstanding:

Thursday, February 2, 2012
St. Cloud vs. Alexandria
5:15 PM at Alexandria

Thief River Falls vs. Park Rapids Area
7:30 PM at Park Rapids

THANKS!!!

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:19 am

MNHockeyFan wrote:
MNHockeyFan wrote:With these plus Knight7's scores above I believe there are only two games still outstanding:

Thursday, February 2, 2012
St. Cloud vs. Alexandria
5:15 PM at Alexandria

Thief River Falls vs. Park Rapids Area
7:30 PM at Park Rapids
One other score:
Thursday, February 2, 2012
St. Cloud 0, Alexandria 2

Now just the TRF/Park Rapids game outstanding.

Thanks again to both of you for tracking these down... As long as they get into the Hub and MN Scores then they will be reflected in both QRF and KRACH - and the standings in general. This is very critical this time of year as the seeding are happening as we post. THANKS!!!

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:31 am

This is the most recent run with a few scores not yet entered but known as indicated below as of yesterday AM. This is re-running now with the scores from last night. Some of those are "missing" as well from either Hub or MN Scores (or both). I expect an updated KRACH without these missing/non-updated scores sometime in the next hour and hopefully another update/re-run will come after that once some of the scores are in.

No Score Reported for These Games:

Thu, February 2, 2012
Moose Lake Area 3 vs. Webster 4
Thief River Falls 6 vs. Park Rapids Area 0

Sat, January 28, 2012
SB/TH/CC/Ely/NE Range 9 vs. Grantsburg 5

Thu, January 26, 2012
Detroit Lakes 1 vs. Pequot Lakes 2

iceage · Post by **iceage** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:02 am

ghshockeyfan wrote:http://www.minnesota-scores.net/email.php

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OVERALL:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA.htm
CLASS AA:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA.htm
CLASS A:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A.htm
SECTION:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC.htm
SOS (Strength-Of-Schedule) is at:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS.htm
==========================================

On Strength of Schedule do AA teams get docked for playing A teams like they do with QRF?

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:12 am

iceage wrote:
ghshockeyfan wrote:http://www.minnesota-scores.net/email.php

==========================================
OVERALL:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA.htm
CLASS AA:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA.htm
CLASS A:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A.htm
SECTION:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC.htm
SOS (Strength-Of-Schedule) is at:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS.htm
==========================================
On Strength of Schedule do AA teams get docked for playing A teams like they do with QRF?

No. SOS is a straight average of the rankings of your opponents. So, for example, - you play 4 teams ranked 1, 4, 5, and 10 = 1+4+5+10/4 = 20/4 = 5 is the average ranking and an example of how SOS is calculated. Now, there should be some questions about math terms like normal distribution, mode, median, mean, etc. but I'll leave this out. For now, SOS is calculated as described in the example above.

As an aside...

IMHO the "weighting" takes care of itself (i.e. it is not needed) in a pure algorithm - that is, if Class A teams are really weaker (the point of docking), then this should prove itself and reflect in the rankings without intentional docking. You will see that this is true for KRACH - Look at the overall ranking -

http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA.htm

- and see that many of the class A teams end up at the bottom - and this is without any docking of the AA for playing them, other adjustments, etc. It's just a natural happening by virtue of the pure algorithm.

It's also probably why a team like HM gets the #1 in KRACH (not penalized for playing in a Class A conf), but has difficulties of achieving this in QRF (where docking is present I hear).

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:23 am

No Score Reported for These Games:

Fri, February 3, 2012
Breck vs. Edina - This game was not likely played and is an error...
Beaver Brae 7 vs. Lake of the Woods 1
East Ridge vs. Woodbury
Mahtomedi vs. North St. Paul

Thu, February 2, 2012
Moose Lake Area 3 vs. Webster 4
Thief River Falls 6 vs. Park Rapids Area 0

Sat, January 28, 2012
SB/TH/CC/Ely/NE Range 9 vs. Grantsburg 5

Thu, January 26, 2012
Detroit Lakes 1 vs. Pequot Lakes 2

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:10 pm

No Score Reported for These Games:

Fri, February 3, 2012
Breck vs. Edina - This game was not likely played and is an error...
East Ridge vs. Woodbury
Mahtomedi vs. North St. Paul

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:56 am

No Score Reported for These Games:

Sat, February 4, 2012
Beaver Brae 7 vs. Lake of the Woods 4
Irondale vs. Chisago Lakes Area
Windom Area 2 vs. Fairmont 10
Mankato West vs. Winona
St. Paul Blades 1 vs. Minnehaha 2
Centennial 1 vs. Elk River/Zimmerman 3
Pequot Lakes vs. Princeton

Fri, February 3, 2012
Breck vs. Edina – Game was not played.
East Ridge 0 vs. Woodbury 3
Mahtomedi vs. North St. Paul

Tigers33 · Post by **Tigers33** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:31 am

Irondale 1 Chisago 1

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:50 am

Tigers33 wrote:Irondale 1 Chisago 1

THANKS!

Knight7 · Post by **Knight7** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:02 am

Irondale 3-3 tie with Chisago Lakes

I was there Tiger

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:03 am

Knight7 wrote:Irondale 3-3 tie with Chisago Lakes

I was there Tiger

THANKS!

Tigers33 · Post by **Tigers33** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:06 am

still a tie

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:13 am

Tigers33 wrote:still a tie

Indeed!

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:12 am

No Score Reported for These Games:

Sat, February 4, 2012
Irondale 3 vs. Chisago Lakes Area 3
Mankato West vs. Winona
Pequot Lakes vs. Princeton

Fri, February 3, 2012
Mahtomedi vs. North St. Paul

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:45 pm

No Score Reported for These Games:

Sat, February 4, 2012
Mankato West vs. Winona
Pequot Lakes vs. Princeton

Fri, February 3, 2012
Mahtomedi vs. North St. Paul

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:41 pm

Missing Scores:

NONE

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:53 pm

ghshockeyfan, check your links - when I click on them I get the message:

"This Account Has Been Suspended".

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:00 pm

MNHockeyFan wrote:ghshockeyfan, check your links - when I click on them I get the message:

"This Account Has Been Suspended".

Sounds like the traffic forced a shutdown today... Stay tuned...

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:06 pm

ghshockeyfan wrote:
MNHockeyFan wrote:ghshockeyfan, check your links - when I click on them I get the message:

"This Account Has Been Suspended".
Sounds like the traffic forced a shutdown today... Stay tuned...

...And in the interim:

this is up-to-date on the Hub as of this AM:
http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/page/sh ... h-rankings

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:15 pm

Back up-and-running...

Missing Scores:

NONE

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:02 am

Missing Scores:
http://www.minnesota-scores.net/scorebo ... &sport=110

http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27318

http://www.minnesota-scores.net/email.php

***Or*** you can call or text 218-422-MINN (6466)
and leave all of the important information.

Important Info includes:
Game Date
Sport
Visitor Team*/Score
Home Team*/Score
*Please include the STATE if the team is not from Minnesota!

No Score Reported for These Games:

Mon, February 6, 2012
Rochester Century 5, Rochester John Marshall 2

Most Recent Ranking Links:
==========================================
OVERALL:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA.htm
CLASS AA:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA.htm
CLASS A:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A.htm
SECTION:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC.htm
SOS (Strength-Of-Schedule) is at:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS.htm
==========================================

Past rankings are at:
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic. ... sc&start=0

Also see MN Hockey Hub for rankings and more info.:
http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/page/sh ... h-rankings

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:54 pm

I'll be updating this on a daily basis through the end of the state tourney...

Missing Scores:
http://www.minnesota-scores.net/scorebo ... &sport=110

http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27318

http://www.minnesota-scores.net/email.php

***Or*** you can call or text 218-422-MINN (6466)
and leave all of the important information.

Important Info includes:
Game Date
Sport
Visitor Team*/Score
Home Team*/Score
*Please include the STATE if the team is not from Minnesota!

Most Recent Ranking Links:
==========================================
OVERALL:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA.htm
CLASS AA:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA.htm
CLASS A:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A.htm
SECTION:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC.htm
SOS (Strength-Of-Schedule) is at:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS.htm
==========================================

Past rankings are at:
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic. ... sc&start=0

Also see MN Hockey Hub for rankings and more info.:
http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/page/sh ... h-rankings

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