Section 7AA 2015-16

Sats81 · Post by **Sats81** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:06 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:Elk River 6 GR 2 final

Nice win for elks! Someone check for DJ please!!

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:44 pm

Congrats to Elk River! Played an opportunistic game and buried a team that wasn't ready to play. Interesting to hear Klatt say post game the team has no identity right now and he took responsibility for them not being ready.

In other 7AA action, was really surprised to see St. Francis win at STMA. So now St. Francis has defeated a team Duluth East lost to.

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:51 pm

Could be a late night for Karl working on the rankings. How far do you move ER?

Nuts&Bolts · Post by **Nuts&Bolts** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:06 pm

About as far as you move Team DJ down. Hate to say it but Stats winning this battle.

hadenuf · Post by **hadenuf** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:54 pm

Rapids defense is horrible and the senior leadership is nonexistent. Did Mattson and Bischoff even play tonight?

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:55 pm

Also no one has mentioned the Andover beat CEC.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:10 pm

Usthockey13 wrote:Also no one has mentioned the Andover beat CEC.

Certainly was an opportunity for CEC to position themselves for a home quarterfinal game.

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:25 pm

TheHockeyDJ wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:Also no one has mentioned the Andover beat CEC.
Certainly was an opportunity for CEC to position themselves for a home quarterfinal game.

Yes it was now East has a chance come the 2nd half with games vs GR ER flake and CEC. Not saying they'll win all but if they did that could make for some real interesting arguments at the seed meeting.

Post by **east hockey** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:26 pm

alcloseshaver wrote:If the Elks can pull off the upset of the century tonight it will make for a fun year pounding the keyboard about section seeds, like we do every year.

Imagine the complaining if East ends up seeded #5, wins their quarterfinal and then has "home ice" for the semifinals?!

Lee

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:36 pm

east hockey wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:If the Elks can pull off the upset of the century tonight it will make for a fun year pounding the keyboard about section seeds, like we do every year.
Imagine the complaining if East ends up seeded #5, wins their quarterfinal and then has "home ice" for the semifinals?!

Lee

sign me up

alcloseshaver · Post by **alcloseshaver** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:40 pm

Most likely will be East over ER in the finals with the Elks taking a early 3-0 lead into the second period then taking a major penalty to give East all the momentum then running out of gas from the long bus ride. You would think you couldn't make something like that up...

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:31 pm

After last season in 7AA I felt like I've seen everything. East is struggling big time now. But anyone who has been around HS hockey for a number of years knows anyone can get hot at the right time. 7AA is gonna be more competitive this year than I thought, meaning Cloquet, Andover, and oddly St. Francis are lurking as potential upset threats, probably Forest Lake too. Duluth Marshall got everyone's attn with the blanking of East, and they did it w/o their top two defensemen. I think Rapids, East, and Elk River will still end up being the top 3 seeds.

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:43 am

TheHockeyDJ wrote:After last season in 7AA I felt like I've seen everything. East is struggling big time now. But anyone who has been around HS hockey for a number of years knows anyone can get hot at the right time. 7AA is gonna be more competitive this year than I thought, meaning Cloquet, Andover, and oddly St. Francis are lurking as potential upset threats, probably Forest Lake too. Duluth Marshall got everyone's attn with the blanking of East, and they did it w/o their top two defensemen. I think Rapids, East, and Elk River will still end up being the top 3 seeds.

Marshall had their top to D in the game against East. Krenzen and Liberty were on the ice 80% of the time.

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:33 am

With exception of Elk River Elks it looks like 7AA is very mediocre section in 2015-2016.

NLHockey · Post by **NLHockey** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:08 am

TheHockeyDJ wrote:Congrats to Elk River! Played an opportunistic game and buried a team that wasn't ready to play. Interesting to hear Klatt say post game the team has no identity right now and he took responsibility for them not being ready.

In other 7AA action, was really surprised to see St. Francis win at STMA. So now St. Francis has defeated a team Duluth East lost to.

large part of a team's identity is their starting goaltender - as I've said before 3 goalie rotations don't work. If you don't understand that, you don't understand the goalie position. It's a MENTAL game and a leadership position. Also, part of the rap on MN goalies is that they don't get enough games (referring to a 25 game season, not to mention dividing that by 2 or 3). I am not saying the losses are the goalies fault - it's a team game. However, if GR wants their goalie to be there for them in March (especially a sophomore that's going to have to play behind a softish D) - better get that development/maturation started soon - that don't just fall out of the sky. Even Shepard took a year (NAHL) to find his rhythm at the next level

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:08 am

northwoods oldtimer wrote:With exception of Elk River Elks it looks like 7AA is very mediocre section in 2015-2016.

LOL, so typical, knee jerk reaction to one game.

greenway1969 · Post by **greenway1969** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:11 am

Same old Rapids. Talented but lacking in intensity and toughness. Look to the school to the east if you want to see intensity. Not nearly the talent but they never quit.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:11 am

Usthockey13 wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:After last season in 7AA I felt like I've seen everything. East is struggling big time now. But anyone who has been around HS hockey for a number of years knows anyone can get hot at the right time. 7AA is gonna be more competitive this year than I thought, meaning Cloquet, Andover, and oddly St. Francis are lurking as potential upset threats, probably Forest Lake too. Duluth Marshall got everyone's attn with the blanking of East, and they did it w/o their top two defensemen. I think Rapids, East, and Elk River will still end up being the top 3 seeds.
Marshall had their top to D in the game against East. Krenzen and Liberty were on the ice 80% of the time.

I thought I heard DM coach in pregame interview say they would be w/o them until January.

greenway1969 · Post by **greenway1969** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:14 am

Same old Rapids. Talented but lacking in intensity and toughness. Look to the school to the east if you want to see intensity. Not nearly the talent but they never quit. Northwoods oldtimer is right, Section 7AA is mediocre at this point.

rainier · Post by **rainier** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:19 am

TheHockeyDJ wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:After last season in 7AA I felt like I've seen everything. East is struggling big time now. But anyone who has been around HS hockey for a number of years knows anyone can get hot at the right time. 7AA is gonna be more competitive this year than I thought, meaning Cloquet, Andover, and oddly St. Francis are lurking as potential upset threats, probably Forest Lake too. Duluth Marshall got everyone's attn with the blanking of East, and they did it w/o their top two defensemen. I think Rapids, East, and Elk River will still end up being the top 3 seeds.
Marshall had their top to D in the game against East. Krenzen and Liberty were on the ice 80% of the time.
I thought I heard DM coach in pregame interview say they would be w/o them until January.

Hanson, who I'd say is their #2 D-man, has been out with an injury.

mulefarm · Post by **mulefarm** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:25 am

Why do people think Rapids has a bunch of talented players? I would say they have a bunch of average to a few above average players that get a lot of hype. They seem to be an average team that beats less talented teams, but struggle against talented teams. What am I missing?

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:34 am

TheHockeyDJ wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:After last season in 7AA I felt like I've seen everything. East is struggling big time now. But anyone who has been around HS hockey for a number of years knows anyone can get hot at the right time. 7AA is gonna be more competitive this year than I thought, meaning Cloquet, Andover, and oddly St. Francis are lurking as potential upset threats, probably Forest Lake too. Duluth Marshall got everyone's attn with the blanking of East, and they did it w/o their top two defensemen. I think Rapids, East, and Elk River will still end up being the top 3 seeds.
Marshall had their top to D in the game against East. Krenzen and Liberty were on the ice 80% of the time.
I thought I heard DM coach in pregame interview say they would be w/o them until January.

Well they ran 4 D but I know thier top two Krenzen and Liberty were playing

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:42 am

mulefarm wrote:Why do people think Rapids has a bunch of talented players? I would say they have a bunch of average to a few above average players that get a lot of hype. They seem to be an average team that beats less talented teams, but struggle against talented teams. What am I missing?

As BSM head coach Ken Pauly said, Rapids has 5 kids that know how to "whip the pill". Mattson, Bischoff, Adams, McLaughlin, Hain, and I'll add Miller and Stampohar, are all very good players, but it is a team game and everything is not in sync yet. They've actually played well with the exception of yesterday. Eden Prairie and BSM are considered the top 2 teams in the state. Lakeville North is defending state champs and they lost in OT in their rink. Even yesterday GR was playing well through most of the first two periods and ER got two goals in the final :33 of the 2nd. The early 5 min major buried GR in the 3rd. I just don't understand why this team gets the level of flack they do. 3 losses to top 5 teams and only yesterday was a game they lost that was really unexpected. So far this season it seems apparent that BSM and EP are the top 2 teams, then a group between 3 and 15 that are very close to one another. 1-2 wasn't the desired Edina Classic result, but perhaps give them some credit for dominating Edina on Thursday. Duluth East has lost to STMA and Duluth Marshall, just a reminder.

howardst · Post by **howardst** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:42 am

Over hype is a fact. All the kids that are selected to elites based on what? Hype! East, GR, Hermantown all have kids playing elite that for a fact are not all they are cracked up to be. We lost a d to Herm that in all honesty is just a good d and not even close to great. In fact if Amodt wasn't there herm would have average d at best. The kid we lost will never beat a good team. DE has kids playing and proof is they are just good players. GR has the same. It looks like the gap has closed and Cloquet , Hibbing, and Greenway all have kids that are every bit as good. Sure the big 3 do have some absolute studs that the rest don't have but that is really a kid or 2 per team. In my opinion GR has 3 - #21,8,7 after that they are just good players and they prob have the most clear cut studs up here. Splitting hairs on the rest. The results of the games this year are proving my point.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:44 am

Usthockey13 wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote: Marshall had their top to D in the game against East. Krenzen and Liberty were on the ice 80% of the time.
I thought I heard DM coach in pregame interview say they would be w/o them until January.
Well they ran 4 D but I know thier top two Krenzen and Liberty were playing

Is Liberty a freshman? He said their top two D are the team captain and a freshmen.