2006-07 Bantam B1 preview

NorthStar202 · Post by **NorthStar202** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:32 pm

and size....what team are you watching?

get a clue!!!

hockeyman008 · Post by **hockeyman008** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:39 pm

Big shooter Blaine doesnt have a #8

Gatorade_Drinker05 · Post by **Gatorade_Drinker05** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:10 pm

bigshooter wrote:any state champion predictions

teams looking strong:
EP red (unstopable goal tending)
Blaine (solid defensive team, #21, #8, and #19 offensively)
Chisago Lakes (#26/6 and #9 .. enough said)
Blake (private school must be good, right?)
WBL orange (size, puck movement)

all and all we have a good BB1 state tournament coming up.

note: both edinas are OUT!!!

there is no 8 on blaine

bigshooter · Post by **bigshooter** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:50 pm

hockeyman008 wrote:Big shooter Blaine doesnt have a #8

sorry..

correction blaine #8 to #3

#21 , #3 , and #19

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:09 pm

Gatorade_Drinker05 wrote:
bigshooter wrote:any state champion predictions

teams looking strong:
EP red (unstopable goal tending)
Blaine (solid defensive team, #21, #8, and #19 offensively)
Chisago Lakes (#26/6 and #9 .. enough said)
Blake (private school must be good, right?)
WBL orange (size, puck movement)

all and all we have a good BB1 state tournament coming up.

note: both edinas are OUT!!!
there is no 8 on blaine

EP Red can be beaten - hard agressive forecheck that disrupts their flow and unsettles them from their breakout will create turnovers.
Their defense can be beaten with speed to the outside get low hard shots and crash the net for rebounds and anytime you can move the puck side to side you can beat any goalie.

The KISS (keep it simple stupid) principle will beat EP red. Hard, fast, Body. Get shots crash the rebounds and stay out of the box. Don't give them too much respect and play them scared and don't try anything fancy. I think Blaine is a solid match-up to beat them as long as they can clog the middle and prevent EP from moving the puck across ice. Play them hard-nose clean and go straight at them. If Blaine puts a game together like they did against Chaska in the Bloomington tourney. EP red will give in to that pressure. However they do have a ton of heart and effort so once you get them down you do not want to let them back up

PS- go EP BLACK I hope they win it all and then we can at least say we lost to the eventual state champions in double OT

fbj123 · Post by **fbj123** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:26 pm

How can you say that when they won the district six league play and the district six tournement? They were the last team standing in an incredibly difficult league. They played Blaine, and managed so survive the constant phisical play and speed. In my opinion they are beatable, but so far they havent been knocked off the top spot yet, which still makes them number one, enough said.

my2cents · Post by **my2cents** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:38 am

I think Tommy pretty much nailed it on the description of beating the EP Red machine.

Blaine scrimmaged them early and pressured the heck out of them outshooting them something like 45-15. At that time, the Red players were backing off in the corners and probably a little timid against the bigger Blaine players. However, they got a couple nice goals on a couple nice plays. Blaine couldn't get anyone to bang in the rebounds and both EP goalies were terrific. The game was a 2-2 tie.

A second scrimmage at EP was a whale of a game as both teams were flying in an evenly played match. EP capitalized on a favorable bounce and on a nice back door play. Blaine couldn't get it by Ford who swallowed everything that came his way. The EP defense did a fine job at evading pressure and making the outlet passes. Blaine still managed to outshoot them even though they spent a lot of time on the penalty kill. Score was 2-0 EP.

You'd have to give EP Red the nod in any game they're in at this point. It's way too early to think about any rematch. Both teams have a tough road to get through regions.

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:40 am

fbj123 wrote:How can you say that when they won the district six league play and the district six tournement? They were the last team standing in an incredibly difficult league. They played Blaine, and managed so survive the constant phisical play and speed. In my opinion they are beatable, but so far they havent been knocked off the top spot yet, which still makes them number one, enough said.

They deserve and have earned the accolades they have been given. They deserved and earned both d6 championships. They should be considered the front runner, but they have not won the state championship yet.

The question was, "can they be beaten". I said yes and provided the recipe. I saw how they can be beaten, and I saw how Blaine can play a clean physical game twice the stature of the man-handling Chaska applied tp EP red.

relax it will take a very good effort by any team to beat them.

FREDFLINTSTONE · Post by **FREDFLINTSTONE** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:46 pm

Hockey 101

1. fore-check
2. back-check
3. score goals
4. don't allow goals
5. stay out of the box

The above list looks alot like the "recipe" that tomass just provided.

Just so that facts are out, EP Red and Blaine did tie 2-2 very early in the year and shots were 2-1 in favor of Blaine. What can anyone expect from a crew of first year players playing in just their 6th game/scrimmage of the year. In the second meeting (2-0 Red win) Blaine outshot Red by 1, which in my book is even. (technically you are correct saying Blaine outshot Red). But if you are outshooting teams and not scoring, you have to ask yourself what is the problem? Why are we not winning these games? Since Blaine is in a different region than Red, I'm not sure why this matchup is even being dicussed. You can always get back to that topic if there is a future match-up, but regions are first.

tomass, do you really think your "recipe" provided any knowledgeable information? You stated some points on how to beat Red. Just to let you know, the things you brought up are not what you need to beat Red, but its what you need to beat any good team. Have you ever heard a coach say lets have a "weak" forecheck, or lets "not" backcheck, or lets "not" score any goals, or let them score, or lets take some penalties, or lets stop scoring now that we are up on them? I give that speech to my famous upper mite team that everyone knows about. (well they know each other).

I think being the hockey guru you are, you may be putting to much emphasis on one game that Chaska came out flying and EP brought much less than what they are capable for which they have stated there could have been a number of various reasons. Maybe they took a look at your record and didn't take Chaska very serious. I can say this, because that Blaine team brought a much more physical and aggressive forecheck than you Chaska team and the result was a 2-0 Red win.

Tomass, do you really think you are a hockey guru? If you are, I would think you would have been able to get your Chaska team (which was predicted to be in the top 3) a little higher in the regular season standings than 6th, and much higher in the district tournament than 7th. But hey, your 22-16-3 record looks great. I bet Waconia and Prior Lake would die for a record and top notch analyst like yourself.

rbkhockeyman2070 · Post by **rbkhockeyman2070** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:41 pm

What I think is going to happen is that Ep red and Ep black will go to the state tourny. One reason is that Ep red is the most talented team i have seen this year. Ep black just showed they can beat anyteam, I was at the game when black beat red in districts 6 and red look horriable. but the reason black didnt win it was because they played 8 games in a row. but now black is rested and ready to play in regionals.

stabears · Post by **stabears** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:13 pm

how good is rochester red?

FREDFLINTSTONE · Post by **FREDFLINTSTONE** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:23 pm

Don't know.....Ask tomass for his recipe

ShootPassScore · Post by **ShootPassScore** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:33 am

Holy Crap Feddy. Did they run out of Bronto Burgers in Bedrock?

Tommybutt has been a pretty negative poster but his negativity is always aimed at his home squad Chaska. I didnt think that was a great angle to play. One of Chaska's problems this year was negativity (See OhMY and TomASS' posts) That weighs on the players, who are lets remember, KIDS! The Down goes Fraziergate was also without much class.

Those things he is rippable for, however this "recipe" is just what he sees and what he thinks needs empahsis when playing Red. There is no negative connotation to this post.

Dont take anything that is on this thread personal, they are opinions. This forum is a terrific exercise of our 1st amendment rights.

As far as your recipe,

I would put backcheck over forecheck and dont allow goals over score goals.

FREDFLINTSTONE · Post by **FREDFLINTSTONE** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:34 am

That is my point. That Chaska team has some very good players and should not have finished that low, but if you have a person like tomass riden your "A" all year. Eveything makes sense. I didn't like the way he rips on the kids from Chaska, and if he has a problem with effort or whatever, why bring those problems into an open forum. Take it up with team meetings behind close doors. No wonder there there was no team bonding going on.

FREDFLINTSTONE · Post by **FREDFLINTSTONE** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:04 pm

Shoot, I am not taking things personnal, but tomass's hatred towards Red is just so apparent. History speaks loud. I on the other hand am for any team from district 6 since that is the district our team plays in.

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:16 pm

FREDFLINTSTONE wrote:Shoot, I am not taking things personnal, but tomass's hatred towards Red is just so apparent. History speaks loud. I on the other hand am for any team from district 6 since that is the district our team plays in.

Not hatred - favoritism for others, absolutley. In each post about red I do note some very nice attributes about their team. You can support whom you wish. I am ok with you disagreeing with my picks.

guru - never claimed to be, nor am I a coach to the Chaska team, however too many teams tried to play Red straight up by trying to out skate them, out finesse them, out pass them, out dangle them and forget about the basics. So maybe I should rename myself Mr. Obvious? I looked at your posts, I suppose I could keep to the more mundane as to not upset you by expressing an opinion you might disagree with.

Regarding the negativity- most was directed at knowing the behind the scene antics and attitude of the boys on the team and knowing some of their parents did not encourage the "team" aspect of the sport. They needed to hear it not only from their coaches (which they did) but from others because in many cases they weren't hearing it at home. Sometimes unchecked egos of selfish players need to hear the truth. Attempts were made early on in the season behind closed doors to square things away, the coaches were beside themselves at trying to correct the attitude. Real life on ice lessons were taught many times but never learned. If I could be the catalyst for them to get angry enough to rally around so they would want to shove my critiscm back up my double cheeks so be.....though it didn't work, It was worth a try because nothing else worked. The depth and extent of the problems on the team went much deeper than my posts or just this hockey year. I had a reason and purpose for my method based on the background I knew about and could not share with the site because that would have been even more wrong.

Sure I realized they're kids,, but false, unearned praise waters down real and earned praise. When they earned it they heard it. When they didn't I posted my perspective of the truth.

You can say I was negative but then you would have to say the truth was delivered.

I didn't think the town of Euphoria was in existence back in the stone age freddy boy?

Well at least you and I are both on the sidelines watching better teams compete for very a great championship title run. That should be satisfying for each of us?

If I'm at the games, I would like to introduce myself. Will you be wearing the tiger skin cloth and be bare foot?

EagleGuy91 · Post by **EagleGuy91** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:44 pm

Update from Plymouth C:

Game 1:
Maple Grove 7
Mound/Westonka 1

Game 2:
Burnsville 2 (and zero penalties)
Eden Prairie Black 0

Game 3: (Half way through)
Wayzata Blue 2,
Sartell 2

Did you know the Plymouth Ice Center is a Wi-Fi equipped facility? Pretty handy, eh?

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:24 pm

it's nice to see a community center gets it with the WiFi yet the airports around the country all want 7 bucks and hour or 12 a day - that would have been a bargain at JFK during the Valentine blizzard (NW - not Jet Blue, I was only on the plane 5 hours.)
Can't wait for June and the Iphone!

good luck next game EagleGuy91

Sorry for the loss Black! I do like that Burnsville team though and have been positive about them all year

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oh hang on I need to check first.....is that ok with you FredFlintstone?

EagleGuy91 · Post by **EagleGuy91** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:49 pm

PIC C Update:

Wayzata Blue 7,
Sartell 2

Thanks Tom. I thought we won (you heard me, CL) the first period (scoreless), but we had a pretty typical meltdown in the second period. Allowed a lot of shots and had a lot blocked. Burnsville did some key things very well and deserved the 2-points.

rbkhockeyman2070 · Post by **rbkhockeyman2070** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:21 pm

EP red 6 blake 4

EagleGuy91 · Post by **EagleGuy91** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:25 pm

From the PIC C:

Eden Prairie Black 4, Maple Grove 3, OT

MG scored with :07 remaining and EP Black scored :23 into the OT period.

bigshooter · Post by **bigshooter** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:48 pm

The thing is EP Red can be beaten, Blaine is the closest i've seen anyone come this year on beating them. EP did lose to centennial red 6-1 a team blaine just beat in their district championship. Also, Blaine killed chaska the both times they played them which was in the Midwest Regional tournament. I'm not saying EP doesn't have a good team, or that scores matter on judging a team, I'm just saying that they can be beaten and in my opinion i think blaine is going to be the team to do it looking at their size and aggresiveness.

The 3 best teams left in BB1 hockey are; EP red, Blaine, and Cent. Red (even though they lost to Hermantown in overtime in their Regional Tourny)

bigshooter · Post by **bigshooter** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:06 pm

updates from East Region Tournament-->

Game #1
Chisago Lakes - 3
Stillwater - 2

Game #2
Hermantown - 3
Centennial Red - 2
(2 OT's)

Game #3
Blaine - 6
WBL Black - 0

Game #4
Duluth East - 4
Moose Lake - 1

Those were the games played so far.

bigshooter · Post by **bigshooter** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:19 pm

(cont. from above reply..)

Game #5
Hermantown - 6
Stillwater - 3

Game #6
Centennial Red - 3
Chisago Lakes - 2

That is it for the Friday games

EagleGuy91 · Post by **EagleGuy91** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:23 pm

Last from PIC C:

Burnsville 10,
Mound/Westonka 1

Turn out the lights and go home.