One step closer to Big Ten Hockey Conference

WayOutWest · Post by **WayOutWest** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:51 am

JSR wrote:Where wayoutwest will find this interesting nugget:

At this point it makes no sense to complain about the negatives about the Big Ten Hockey Conference because it's going to happen. There are multiple positives for the Wisconsin hockey program when it comes to the new conference. The most obvious being a television agreement with the Big10 Network which will generate more money for the program and will expose the program to more recruits. The TV deal will also be a selling point for recruits who's parents may not be able to make every trip to see them.

Money over substance, huh? Is that the goal?
Prostitutes hold that ideology as well.
Be proud.

WayOutWest · Post by **WayOutWest** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:54 am

JSR wrote: I've actually read some articles (will try and find them) since PSU made the announcement that when the BTHC came to fruition that Illinois and Indiana would both likely start trying to attract donors and work toward fielding D1 teams before 2020

Perfect.
Perhaps Lucia can keep himself employed by building a fat and meaningless record playing the virtual equivalents of Stillwater High School?
(No offense, Stillwater. Think of it this way, you could be a D1 program.)

no97 · Post by **no97** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:56 pm

WayOutWest wrote:
no97 wrote:WayOutWest:

http://www.bigten.org/genrel/032111aab.html

Told You So

Kiss My @$$

Dam you're stupid

Should I continue?
Yep, it's happening.
However, I am not the stupid one.
I am sure you have taken a look at what is going on in the NCAA Tournament.
Sure, it makes perfect sense to move out of the best conference in hockey, and take on the highly competitive BIG 10.

By the way, do you truly not know how to spell "damn?" Stupid? Yep.

Wow. I sure do know how to spell dam. Also, I know how to spell @$$. Forgive me for thinking this site had a profanity filter you PLEASE BAN ME moron.

no97 · Post by **no97** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:56 pm

no97 wrote:
WayOutWest wrote:
no97 wrote:WayOutWest:

http://www.bigten.org/genrel/032111aab.html

Told You So

Kiss My @$$

Dam you're stupid

Should I continue?
Yep, it's happening.
However, I am not the stupid one.
I am sure you have taken a look at what is going on in the NCAA Tournament.
Sure, it makes perfect sense to move out of the best conference in hockey, and take on the highly competitive BIG 10.

By the way, do you truly not know how to spell "damn?" Stupid? Yep.
Wow. I sure do know how to spell dam. Also, I know how to spell @$$. Forgive me for thinking this site had a profanity filter you PLEASE BAN ME moron.

AND THERE IT IS!

WayOutWest · Post by **WayOutWest** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:09 pm

no97 wrote: Wow. I sure do know how to spell dam. Also, I know how to spell @$$. Forgive me for thinking this site had a profanity filter you PLEASE BAN ME moron.

Awwww....was that it?
Why didn't you just make use of one of the other tens of thousands of words in the English language that would not make you look silly?
Or, don't you know any?

no97 · Post by **no97** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:17 am

WayOutWest wrote:
no97 wrote: Wow. I sure do know how to spell dam. Also, I know how to spell @$$. Forgive me for thinking this site had a profanity filter you PLEASE BAN ME moron.
Awwww....was that it?
Why didn't you just make use of one of the other tens of thousands of words in the English language that would not make you look silly?
Or, don't you know any?

You really think I'm the one who looks silly? Re-read this entire thread and see who's right EVERY SINGLE TIME and who is wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME. That should provide a better list at who looks silly and who doesn't...

WayOutWest · Post by **WayOutWest** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:25 pm

no97 wrote: You really think I'm the one who looks silly?

I will obviously give you that you were right about the Big10 hockey conference being formed. It is a TERRIBLE idea, however, unless your only goal is to make money. Obviously, the WCHA is a MUCH better hockey conference than the Big 10 conference will be for many, many years, from a competitive standpoint, at the very least.
And you still don't know how to spell "damn."

Enjoy the 1/2 filled Mariucci stadium, starting in 2012, and let me know what your address is, so that I can send you a dictionary. (and perhaps you may be able to find some more descriptive, civil terminology there, while you are at it?

)

no97 · Post by **no97** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:11 pm

WayOutWest wrote:
no97 wrote: You really think I'm the one who looks silly?
I will obviously give you that you were right about the Big10 hockey conference being formed. It is a TERRIBLE idea, however, unless your only goal is to make money. Obviously, the WCHA is a MUCH better hockey conference than the Big 10 conference will be for many, many years, from a competitive standpoint, at the very least.
And you still don't know how to spell "damn."

Enjoy the 1/2 filled Mariucci stadium, starting in 2012, and let me know what your address is, so that I can send you a dictionary. (and perhaps you may be able to find some more descriptive, civil terminology there, while you are at it? )

I'm already enjoying seeing Mariucci half-full. If you're paying attention, the "sold out" being reported is maybe half-full on TV.

And good job assuming that I'm a Gopher fan. Not everyone in this state gives two rips about the University of Minnesota. In fact, I'd argue that the rise of programs like UMD, SCSU, BSU and MSU is as responsible for the fall of the Gophers as the formation of the BTHC will be.

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:12 pm

no97 wrote:I'm already enjoying seeing Mariucci half-full. If you're paying attention, the "sold out" being reported is maybe half-full on TV.

And good job assuming that I'm a Gopher fan. Not everyone in this state gives two rips about the University of Minnesota. In fact, I'd argue that the rise of programs like UMD, SCSU, BSU and MSU is as responsible for the fall of the Gophers as the formation of the BTHC will be.

I for one do not give two rips.

MNHockey75 · Post by **MNHockey75** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:27 pm

PuckU126 wrote:
no97 wrote:I'm already enjoying seeing Mariucci half-full. If you're paying attention, the "sold out" being reported is maybe half-full on TV.

And good job assuming that I'm a Gopher fan. Not everyone in this state gives two rips about the University of Minnesota. In fact, I'd argue that the rise of programs like UMD, SCSU, BSU and MSU is as responsible for the fall of the Gophers as the formation of the BTHC will be.
I for one do not give two rips.

I hate the Goofs with a passion. Have fun in the Big Ten with Northwestern, Penn State and Iowa! You'll have a chance making it out of the first round for a change.

WayOutWest · Post by **WayOutWest** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:52 am

no97 wrote: I'd argue that the rise of programs like UMD, SCSU, BSU and MSU is as responsible for the fall of the Gophers as the formation of the BTHC will be.

UMD and SCSU have had great programs for awhile. And this is exactly my point. Why move two programs out of arguably the best college hockey conference in the country, to start a much weaker one?
It's a stupid and very sad decision.

And I know you don't care, but if you think Mariucci is empty now, wait until Penn State comes to town.......to play...........hockey!

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:09 am

I'll go against the grain here and say that Penn State will have a very program within five years. It didn't take Nebraska-Omaha very long and UNO is not the school that Penn State is.

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:28 am

MNHockeyFan wrote:I'll go against the grain here and say that Penn State will have a very program within five years. It didn't take Nebraska-Omaha very long and UNO is not the school that Penn State is.

I assume good.

This may be true for PSU because not only is it D-1, Big Ten hockey, but PSU provides a solid education as well. PSU will be attractive to many players.

Not sure if they will be a spitting image of UNO though. PSU won't have Dean Blais.

WayOutWest · Post by **WayOutWest** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:03 am

MNHockeyFan wrote:I'll go against the grain here and say that Penn State will have a very program within five years. It didn't take Nebraska-Omaha very long and UNO is not the school that Penn State is.

I've got a fin that says otherwise.

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:55 pm

PuckU126 wrote:Not sure if they will be a spitting image of UNO though. PSU won't have Dean Blais.

That HUGE donation by that rich alumnus will give PSU a lot of options on who they hire. If they don't get the right guy it won't be because they didn't pay enough.

And there's little doubt that recruits will be attracted to what will be brand new, first class facilities that will put most others in the area and points east to shame.

Time will tell, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if they're making the NCAA tournament within five years.

warriors41 · Post by **warriors41** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:14 pm

PuckU126 wrote:
MNHockeyFan wrote:I'll go against the grain here and say that Penn State will have a very program within five years. It didn't take Nebraska-Omaha very long and UNO is not the school that Penn State is.
I assume good.

This may be true for PSU because not only is it D-1, Big Ten hockey, but PSU provides a solid education as well. PSU will be attractive to many players.

Not sure if they will be a spitting image of UNO though. PSU won't have Dean Blais.

Who needs Dean Blais when you have Joe Paterno

Duluth 4 · Post by **Duluth 4** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:20 pm

no97 wrote:
no97 wrote:
WayOutWest wrote: Yep, it's happening.
However, I am not the stupid one.
I am sure you have taken a look at what is going on in the NCAA Tournament.
Sure, it makes perfect sense to move out of the best conference in hockey, and take on the highly competitive BIG 10.

By the way, do you truly not know how to spell "damn?" Stupid? Yep.
Wow. I sure do know how to spell dam. Also, I know how to spell @$$. Forgive me for thinking this site had a profanity filter you PLEASE BAN ME moron.
AND THERE IT IS!

Get this kid off the forums.

clutterbuck22 · Post by **clutterbuck22** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:43 pm

I'm guessing the Gophers and Wisconsin will still play some of the wcha teams as there is not enough big ten hockey teams to completely fill up a full schedule. Same with the teams from the ccha. They'll still probably play Nodak and St. Cloud State every year. Also the gophers voted against this and were forced to move to the big ten conference because the majority agreed to it. So why is everyone bashing the gophers for this?

List of teams in the new big ten conference for the earlier posts.

1. Michigan
2. Michigan St.
3. Ohio St.
4. Penn State
5. Minnesota
6. Wisconsin

No Northwestern or Iowa

Tigers33 · Post by **Tigers33** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:21 pm

How can anyone bash the gophers for this? This is all about one thing, just like everything in the world is about...MONEY. If this wasnt going to make the U of M more money then they wouldnt do it. So, obviously the U thinks this will pay off some of the deficit from Mason's, Monson's, and Brewster's contract...Nice job Maturi!!

no97 · Post by **no97** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:06 am

clutterbuck22 wrote:I'm guessing the Gophers and Wisconsin will still play some of the wcha teams as there is not enough big ten hockey teams to completely fill up a full schedule. Same with the teams from the ccha. They'll still probably play Nodak and St. Cloud State every year. Also the gophers voted against this and were forced to move to the big ten conference because the majority agreed to it. So why is everyone bashing the gophers for this?

I love this "the Gophers voted against this" crap that gets perpetuated ad nauseam. READ THE RELEASE, specifically noting the first paragraph:

http://www.bigten.org/genrel/032111aab.html

I'll bold the important part for you:

March 21, 2011

Park Ridge, Ill. - The directors of athletics of Big Ten institutions which sponsor men's ice hockey unanimously announce their intention to recommend to the Big Ten Council of Presidents/Chancellors in June the establishment of men's ice hockey as an official conference sport for the 2013-14 academic year with participation by Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Ohio State, Penn State and Wisconsin.

no97 · Post by **no97** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:17 am

WayOutWest wrote:
no97 wrote: I'd argue that the rise of programs like UMD, SCSU, BSU and MSU is as responsible for the fall of the Gophers as the formation of the BTHC will be.
UMD and SCSU have had great programs for awhile.

I'll give you UMD, but SCSU has only had D-I hockey for ~ 20 years. Guess what? 20 year old Minnesotans now have grown up in an age where their only choice isn't Gophs or Bulldogs. And it's gonna get worse. Mankato and BSU only had D-I for ~ 10 years. Give it another 10 years and every recruit across the state will be used to the fact that BSU in the Frozen Four is old news, or SCSU winning the Final Five for the first time happened 20 years ago (2001).

Point is, kids now don't think of the Gophers as the dominant team across the state. I mean, if you grow up in, say, Warroad, sure you get the Gophers on TV, but you also get the Sioux, BSU, and SCSU and Mankato. If you grow up in IFalls, you get the Gophs and Bulldogs. Brainerd? Gophs, BSU, SCSU and Mankato. I don't think that the UofM understands that not every kid grows up "dreaming of being a Gopher" anymore...

edit - and note I didn't rip on you for misusing "awhile." It's supposed to be two words, not one, in that grammatical form (note examples #1 & #2), idiot

http://www.grammarmudge.cityslide.com/a ... 3/8557.htm

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:54 am

no97 wrote:
WayOutWest wrote:
no97 wrote: I'd argue that the rise of programs like UMD, SCSU, BSU and MSU is as responsible for the fall of the Gophers as the formation of the BTHC will be.
UMD and SCSU have had great programs for awhile.
I'll give you UMD, but SCSU has only had D-I hockey for ~ 20 years. Guess what? 20 year old Minnesotans now have grown up in an age where their only choice isn't Gophs or Bulldogs. And it's gonna get worse. Mankato and BSU only had D-I for ~ 10 years. Give it another 10 years and every recruit across the state will be used to the fact that BSU in the Frozen Four is old news, or SCSU winning the Final Five for the first time happened 20 years ago (2001).

Point is, kids now don't think of the Gophers as the dominant team across the state. I mean, if you grow up in, say, Warroad, sure you get the Gophers on TV, but you also get the Sioux, BSU, and SCSU and Mankato. If you grow up in IFalls, you get the Gophs and Bulldogs. Brainerd? Gophs, BSU, SCSU and Mankato. I don't think that the UofM understands that not every kid grows up "dreaming of being a Gopher" anymore...

edit - and note I didn't rip on you for misusing "awhile." It's supposed to be two words, not one, in that grammatical form (note examples #1 & #2), idiot

http://www.grammarmudge.cityslide.com/a ... 3/8557.htm

Nor their fans...

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:12 pm

WayOutWest wrote:
no97 wrote:WayOutWest:

http://www.bigten.org/genrel/032111aab.html

Told You So

Kiss My @$$

Dam you're stupid

Should I continue?
Yep, it's happening.
However, I am not the stupid one.
I am sure you have taken a look at what is going on in the NCAA Tournament.
Sure, it makes perfect sense to move out of the best conference in hockey, and take on the highly competitive BIG 10.

By the way, do you truly not know how to spell "damn?" Stupid? Yep.

Actually you are the stupid one. You are now changing your argument. Your original argument was that it would never happen and that there was no fiscal reasons for doing it. Both have been proven wrong since the announcements. Now you are changing your story as to why you think it is a bad idea that they are doing it. This is called back pedaling. You'd earn alot of points in the maturity department by just saying "I was wrong", but that bus left a long time ago.

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:18 pm

WayOutWest wrote:
JSR wrote:Where wayoutwest will find this interesting nugget:

At this point it makes no sense to complain about the negatives about the Big Ten Hockey Conference because it's going to happen. There are multiple positives for the Wisconsin hockey program when it comes to the new conference. The most obvious being a television agreement with the Big10 Network which will generate more money for the program and will expose the program to more recruits. The TV deal will also be a selling point for recruits who's parents may not be able to make every trip to see them.

Money over substance, huh? Is that the goal?
Prostitutes hold that ideology as well.
Be proud.

Again changing the argument so you don't have to admit you were wrong. Go back and reread the thread about how you stated there were no money or TV reasons for doing. This is too funny. Keep back pealing keep back pedaling.

JSR · Post by **JSR** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:21 pm

WayOutWest wrote:
no97 wrote: You really think I'm the one who looks silly?
I will obviously give you that you were right about the Big10 hockey conference being formed. It is a TERRIBLE idea, however, unless your only goal is to make money. Obviously, the WCHA is a MUCH better hockey conference than the Big 10 conference will be for many, many years, from a competitive standpoint, at the very least.
And you still don't know how to spell "damn."

Enjoy the 1/2 filled Mariucci stadium, starting in 2012, and let me know what your address is, so that I can send you a dictionary. (and perhaps you may be able to find some more descriptive, civil terminology there, while you are at it? )

PArt of the reason the WCHA is a great conference is because of WI and MN. The BTHC will only be 6 teams strong to begin with so it's not an apples to apples comaprison but WI and MN are still the flagships of the WCHA and both are leaving this weakens the WCHA. Michigan and MSU are every bit as strong as top tier WCHA teams. tOSU is every bit as good as midlevel WCHA teams and PSU will not take long to be just as good considering the money, the facilities and the recruiting bed they are in. You are short sighted in every approach you've taken to this topic and you continue to be so. It is funny to watch though