That's the most innacurate misrepresentation of facts I've ever read. Not a great wayvto earn credibly for a so-called "advisor". Seems like he is the one who needs the advice
That's the most innacurate misrepresentation of facts I've ever read. Not a great wayvto earn credibly for a so-called "advisor". Seems like he is the one who needs the advice
Can you please point out the misrepresentations? Thanks.
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Can you please point out the misrepresentations? Thanks.
That article is LOADED with falsehoods and misrepresentations. I'd be here all week setting it straight, but I'll use one small example.
Mr. MacDonal says:
"It all sounds good, until one actually begins to dissect the numbers."
Then he proceeds to fabricate numbers of his own. For example, he writes ...
"If you consider that each team has a 50 man protected list, plus invite another 10-12 players out to their Camps through tryout agreements, each team will have an average of 60 players burn their eligibility each season."
That statement alone is innacurate on many counts. It certainly sounds as if the 22 member Western Hockey League is burning through potential NCAA prospects at the rate of 1,320 per season on average. That's RIDICULOUS.
1.) For starters, you don't "burn NCAA eligibility" from being on a CHL teams protected list. In fact, players are added to these lists without consent. Many through the bantam draft (Hudson Fasching, Ryan Norman etc.), and others just added to a teams list (Keegan Iverson, Alec Baer etc.)
2.) Indeed, the lists themselves are loaded with players who actively playing college hockey (Max Gaede, Derek Forbort) as well as players who have commited to the NCAA (Brendan Harms, Chris Wilkie, Will Merchant etc.).
3.) The lists also contain many players who are unlikely to play in the CHL and who are actively protecting the NCAA options. I won't mention names here or speculate on an individuals intentions, but a good portion of the younger American players are in this category and a handful of high Canadian draft picks who went to Junior A instead of reporting to camps.
4.) Being invited to, or attending, a CHL tryout camp does not "burn NCAA eligibility". You can attend as many camps as you like without affecting your NCAA eligibility. Last season, for example, several Minnesota players attended WHL camps and retained their NCAA eliginility.
5.) The VAST MAJORITY of CHL players who are on the 50 man protected who will be forfeiting NCAA eligibility in the upcoming season, have already done so, as the 50 man list must contain all active players on a teams roster. So if a team has 20 returning players of 25 from last year, then they are on the protected list and have already forfeited NCAA eligibility by playing in games or signing an education contracts in previous seasons. Over the course of a 5 or 6 year CHL career they only count as 1 NCAA forfeiture, not as implied above "each season".
6.) Even listed players who WANT to play in the CHL and have NO INTEREST in playing in the NCAA do not forfeit NCAA eligibility. Not unless they sign an education contract, play games, accept certain gifts etc.
NCAA eligibility is not "burned" by being on a list or attending a camp. With regards to WHL/CHL, your NCAA eligibility is only "burned" by signing an education contract, playing in games or accepting gifts above what is allowed. Each team will sign approximately 6 new North American rookies (plus an import). Those new players will be signed to education contracts, and many might have already by signed by virtue of being a high draft pick or participating in a handful of games in the season prior. The facts are, the average number of new NCAA forfeitures per team is closer to 6 than 60 - a fraction of the picture painted by Mr. McDonald.
Mr. McDonald goes on to use his fabricated numbers to draw other conclusions, basing the following statement on his above calculation ...
"This calculation shows that only about 3% of the total players who actually step on the ice each Fall and make the conscious decision (or not) to burn their NCAA eligibility, will ever earn any educational money from the major junior route."
This is a preposturous statement based on erroneous numbers and distributed and represented as facts via his website. Considering his numbers above inflate actual numbers ten-fold, it's no coincidence the number of players who actually step on the ice each fall in the WHL and do eventually cash in on their education package is closer to 30% than 3%.
The "article" (and I use that term generously) is absolutely riddled with ridiculous misrepresentations like the one above. Really too many too mention in a forum post.
Mr. McDonald displays an alarmingly low grasp of the facts for a man who is presenting himself as a "Family Hockey Advisor". Advice to anyone considering the services of Mr. McDonald should be loud and clear - LOOK ELSEWHERE
DISCLAIMER 1: I am not advocating the WHL/CHL over the NCAA. I believe it's a very personal decision that can only made by the player and families involved. Both are EXCELLENT educational and hockey opportunities. There are doctors and lawyers with roots in both environments (and even the occasional NHLer) and there have been manual laborers produced by both routes as well.
Western Hockey League Commissioner Ron Robison announced today that a total of 300 WHL graduate players have been awarded WHL Scholarships for the 2011-12 academic year.
The WHL Scholarship recipients are enrolled as full-time students in 71 different post-secondary institutions throughout North America.
This season 154 of the 300 WHL Scholarship recipients are furthering their education while playing elite hockey in the Canadian Interuniversity Sport (CIS) Association. In Western Canada 111 of these student athletes are playing in the Canada West University Conference and have combined their WHL Scholarship with additional financial assistance from their University to receive Western Canada’s Premier Hockey Scholarship.
The University of Saskatchewan (Saskatoon) leads the way with 33 WHL graduates enrolled in full time studies while 28 former WHL players are registered at the University of Alberta (Edmonton). The University of Manitoba (Winnipeg) also boasts 28 WHL graduates who are attending full time classes. The University of Calgary has 25 former WHL players enrolled, the University of Lethbridge has 16 WHL graduates, the University of Regina has 15 and the University of British Columbia in Vancouver 11 WHL graduates enrolled in full time studies.
Among the 2011-12 WHL Scholarship recipients, 56 WHL graduates are enrolled at Universities in Eastern Canada with 43 currently playing hockey in the Ontario and Atlantic Conferences of the CIS. Another 54 WHL graduates are enrolled at a Canadian College or other post-secondary institution, with 12 playing hockey in the Alberta Colleges Athletic Conference (ACAC) or the BC Intercollegiate Hockey League (BCIHL), and 9 are attending other post-secondary institutions throughout North America.
Administered by the WHL office, the WHL Scholarship is solely funded by the member Clubs of the WHL. This season WHL Clubs will contribute $1.6 million to graduates utilizing the WHL Scholarship.
All players who play in the WHL are eligible to receive the WHL scholarship. For every season a player plays in the WHL, they receive a full year guaranteed WHL Scholarship, including tuition, textbooks and compulsory fees, to a post-secondary institution of their choice. In addition, over 100 current WHL players are receiving financial assistance to enroll in post secondary classes while playing in the WHL, including 75 studying at the Athabasca University. The WHL and Athabasca University have partnered to offer, through online and other distance education vehicles, fully accredited university courses to any WHL player interested in further pursuing post-secondary studies while playing in the WHL.
The WHL continues to be the leading provider of Hockey Scholarships in Western Canada. Since 1993, the Western Hockey League has awarded more than 4,300 Scholarships to graduate players, representing a contribution of more than $13.5 million.
The WHL Scholarship is considered to be the most attractive hockey scholarship due to the fact it is a fully guaranteed academic scholarship with no requirement to play university hockey to qualify, and the student athlete can apply the funding to any post-secondary program of his choice.[/i]
Western Hockey League Scholarship Recipients, 2011-12 Academic Year
The following is a listing of the ---WHL graduate and players who have been awarded WHL scholarships for the 2011-2012 academic year and the post secondary institutions they currently are attending;
Name – Home Town – Club Responsible for WHL Scholarship
(**) Currently playing hockey in the Canada West Conference of the CIS (Canadian Inter-University Sport)
(*) Currently enrolled at two post-secondary institutions under one Scholarship
University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, SK (33)
Kyle Aschim – Saskatoon, SK –Prince Albert** Andrew Bailey – Hazlet, SK –Kootenay** Kirk Belyk – Saskatoon, SK –Saskatoon Kyle Bortis – Saskatoon, SK – Swift Current** Brennan Bosch – Martensville, SK –Medicine Hat** Steven DaSilva – Saskatoon, SK –Kootenay Matt Delahey – Moose Jaw, SK –Regina** Jarrid Dowhay – Prince Albert, SK –Prince Albert Brenden Dowd – Saskatoon, SK –Kamloops** Chris Durand – Saskatoon, SK –Prince George** Ryan Funk – Morden, MB –Saskatoon** Steven Gillen – Kindersley, SK –Moose Jaw Cody Hobbs – Prince Albert, SK –Prince George** Ryan Holfeld – Leroy, SK – Medicine Hat** Derek Hulak – Saskatoon, SK –Regina/Saskatoon** Kyle Jahraus – Saskatoon, SK – Tri-Cities Michael Kaye – Saskatoon, SK –Tri-Cities** Curtis Kulchar – Martensville, SK –Regina** Garrett Leedahl – Saskatoon, SK –Spokane David Linsley – Outlook, SK –Spokane Paul MacDonald – Calgary, AB –Lethbridge Craig McCallum – Canoe Lake, SK –Edmonton** Jadon Potter – Hoey, SK – Victoria David Reekie – Saskatoon, SK –Everett** Zach Sim – Saskatoon, SK –Kootenay Cody Smuk – Saskatoon, SK –Victoria** Zak Stebner – Saskatoon, SK – Red Deer** Chad Suer – Saskatoon, SK –Moose Jaw** Garrett Thiessen – Prince George, BC – Prince George** Shaun Vey – Wakaw, SK – Tri-Cities** Brett Ward – Swift Current, SK –Moose Jaw** Jesse Zetariuk – Brandon, MB –Everett** Myles Zimmer – Tisdale, SK –Prince George
University of Alberta, Edmonton, AB (28)
Ian Barteaux – Ft. Saskatchewan, AB – Kootenay** Thomas Carr – Edmonton, AB –Medicine Hat** Jesse Craige – Edmonton, AB –Lethbridge** Real Cyr – Victoire, SK – Prince George** Mitch Czibere – Fort Saskatchewan, AB – Vancouver Zack Dailey – Healy, AK – Everett** James Dobrowolski – Vernon, BC –Prince Albert** Brett Ferguson – Vibank, SK – Red Deer** Greg Gardner – Cold Lake, AB –Prince George** Jordan Hickmott – Mission, B.C. –Medicine Hat** Colin Joe – Edmonton, AB –Kelowna** Levko Koper – Edmonton, AB –Spokane** Johnny Lazo – Winnipeg, MB – Tri-Cities** Michael MacAngus – Edmonton, AB – Regina Scott Maetche – Lacombe, AB –Victoria/Calgary Matt Meropoulis – Edmonton, AB –Victoria** Kurtis Mucha – Sherwood Park, AB – Portland** Drew Nichol – Edmonton, AB –Edmonton** Lindsay Nielsen – Edmonton, AB –Seattle** Kruise Reddick – Manor, SK – Tri-Cities** Sean Ringrose – Edmonton, AB –Medicine Hat** Alex Rodgers – Salmon Arm, BC –Kamloops** Linden Rowat – Cochrane, AB –Regina Jordan Rowley – Edmonton, AB –Kamloops** J.P. Szaszkiewicz – Edmonton, AB –Edmonton** Drew Todd – Red Deer, AB –Lethbridge Jarrett Toll – Maple Ridge, BC – Tri-City Americans Travis Toomey – Leduc, AB –Saskatoon**
University of Manitoba – Winnipeg, MB (27)
Lucas Alexiuk – Winnipeg, MB –Lethbridge Darren Bestland – Brunkild, MB –Brandon** Travis Bobbee – Arborg, MB –Lethbridge** Joe Caligiuri – Winnipeg, MB –Brandon** Del Cowan – Hartney, MB –Brandon** Dane Crowley – Winnipeg, MB –Everett** Jesse Deckert – Winnipeg, MB –Prince Albert** Tyler Dittmer – Brandon, MB –Brandon** Ian Duval – Winnipeg, MB –Calgary** Chad Erb – Sanford, MB –Brandon** Mark Friesen – Calgary, AB –Victoria** Nathan Green – Winnipeg, MB –Brandon Cody Gross – Winnipeg, MB –Prince Albert Mike Hellyer – Brandon, MB –Prince Albert** Andrew Hewitt – Winnipeg, MB –Swift Current Kyle Krzyzaniak – Neepawa, MB -Brandon Brandon Lockerby – Douglas, MB –Edmonton** Matt Lowry – Neepawa, MB –Medicine Hat** Blair Macauley – Winnipeg, MB –Saskatoon** Brett Martyniuk – Winnipeg, MB –Tri-Cities Mark Olafson – Winnipeg, MB –Lethbridge Neal Prokop – Winnipeg, MB –Moose Jaw Brendan Rowinski – Winnipeg, MB –Calgary** Myles Rumsey – Winnipeg, MB –Swift Current** Jeremy Schappert – Winnipeg, MB –Seattle** Tyler Schmidt – Winnipeg, MB – Tri-Cities** Jared Walker – Winnipeg, MB –Prince George**
University of Calgary – Calgary, AB (25)
Brett Bartman – Medicine Hat, AB –Spokane** Dustin Butler – High River, AB –Kamloops** Steven Chaffin – Calgary, AB –Seattle Jacob DeSerres – Calgary, AB –Seattle** Luke Egener – Calgary, AB – Red Deer** Tyler Fiddler – Prince Albert, SK –Calgary** Eric Frere – Trochu, AB – Calgary/Moose Jaw** Ryan Gillen – Golden, BC –Calgary** Colton Grant – Standard, AB –Medicine Hat** Dylan Hood – Osoyoos, BC –Kelowna** Reid Jorgensen – White Rock, BC –Kamloops** Kris Lazaruk – Edmonton, AB –Kootenay** Randy McNaught – Nanaimo, BC –Victoria** Daniel Medland-Marchen –Kelowna, BC – Kamloops Teegan Moore – Thompson, MB –Brandon** Brock Nixon – Russell, MB –Kamloops** Giffen Nyren – Calgary, AB – Moose Jaw David Robinson – Vernon, BC –Victoria** Max Ross – Lethbridge, AB –Lethbridge** Jerrid Sauer – Medicine Hat, AB –Medicine Hat Taylor Stefishen – North Vancouver, BC – Prince George** Andrew Sullivan – Calgary, AB –Swift Current Tylan Stephens – Calgary, AB –Kootenay Walker Wintoneak – Flin Flon, MB –Saskatoon** Teigan Zahn – Bethune, SK –Saskatoon**
University of British Columbia, -Vancouver, BC (11)
Scott Brkich – High River, AB –Medicine Hat** Justin McCrae – Cochrane, AB –Swift Current** Scott Ramsay – Abbotsford, BC –Victoria Brennan Sonne – Maple Ridge, BC –Everett Steven Stanford – Calgary, AB –Prince Albert** Nolan Toigo – Delta, BC –Vancouver Brendon Wall – Saskatoon, SK –Saskatoon** Scott Wasden – Westbank, BC –Medicine Hat** Jordan White – Surrey, BC –Portland** Matt Wray - Qualicum Beach, BC –Kamloops** Theran Yeo – Prince Albert, SK -Brandon
University of Lethbridge –Lethbridge, AB (16)
Scott Bowles – Creston, BC – Prince George** Curtis Cooper – Kamloops, BC –Prince George** Taylor Gal – Lethbridge, AB –Medicine Hat** Mark Hall – Kamloops, BC –Kamloops** Brent Henke – Edmonton, AB –Edmonton** Tyler Hlookoff – South Slocan, BC –Everett** Nick Hotson – Winnipeg, MB –Lethbridge** Chris Inglis – Calgary, AB – Tri-Cities Daniel Iwanski – Calgary, AB –Lethbridge** Devon Kalinski – La Corey, AB –Calgary** Ryan Letts – Newport Beach, CA –Calgary** Matt MacDermott – Calgary, AB –Regina Cass Mappin – Bog Valley, AB – Red Deer** Craig Orfino – Edmonton, AB –Lethbridge Tyler Skauge – Lethbridge, AB –Everett** Dylan Tait – Lethbridge, AB –Kelowna**
University of Regina – Regina, SK (15)
Ryan Bender – Regina, SK -Kamloops Partik Bhungal – Langley, BC –Victoria** Craig Cuthbert – Swift Current, SK –Kelowna/Saskatoon** Terrance DeLaronde – Winnipeg, MB – Moose Jaw** Tanner Exner – Regina, SK –Victoria Lucas Gore – Kamloops, BC –Victoria** Drew Hoff – Redvers, SK – Tri-Cities Bryan Kauk – Brandon, MB –Brandon Joel Kot – Moose Jaw, SK – Red Deer** Brett Leffler – Wynyard, SK – Regina Tyler Penny – Weyburn, SK – Red Deer** Ryan Sawka – Emerald Park, SK –Everett** Mark Schneider – Brandon, MB –Kamloops** Matt Strueby – Regina, SK –Regina** Blaine Tendler – Viceroy, SK –Prince Albert**
Mount Royal University – Calgary, AB (8)
Nicholas Bell – Innisfail, AB – Red Deer** Michael Brown – Calgary, AB – Swift Current** Tyler Eskesen – Calgary, AB –Everett** Dalyn Flette – Calgary, AB –Kamloops** Brad Haber – Aldergrove, BC –Seattle** Jason MacDonald – Calgary, AB –Regina** Matt Strong – Calgary, AB – Everett Graham Telford – Williams Lake, BC – Swift Current
Athabasca University - Edmonton, AB (5)
Karl Benke – Edmonton, AB – Swift Current Tyler Boldt – Winnipeg, MB –Kamloops *Phil Gervais – St. Paul, AB –Vancouver/Portland Eric Hunter – Winnipeg, MB – Prince George Henrik Tervonen – Edmonton, AB –Edmonton
Grant MacEwan University –Edmonton, AB (4)
Alex Aldred – St. Albert, AB – Tri-Cities *Phil Gervais – St. Paul, AB –Vancouver/Portland Jordan Kochan – Edmonton, AB –Prince Albert Travis Rolheiser – Edmonton, AB –Red Deer**
Thompson Rivers University –Kamloops, BC (3)
*Sasha Golin – Summerland, BC –Portland Justin Palazzo – Kamloops, BC –Prince Albert Raiders Curt Torbohm – Chase, BC –Kamloops
University of Northern British Columbia – Prince George, BC (2)
Ian Curtis – Abbotsford, BC – Swift Current/Prince George Tyler Halliday – Kamloops, BC –Prince George
Simon Fraser University – Burnaby, BC (3)
David Dotan – Richmond, BC –Prince Albert** Colton Graf – Watson, SK –Victoria** Taylor Piller – Saskatoon, SK –Lethbridge
Trinity Western University – Langley, BC (1)
Brad Bakken – Langley, BC –Seattle**
Vancouver Island University –Nanaimo, BC (1)
Curtis Bosecke – Sherwood Park, AB – Prince George
University of Victoria – Victoria, BC (1)
Brad Gustafson – Whitehorse, YK –Medicine Hat
Acadia University – Wolfville, NS (5)
Andrew Clark – Brandon, MB –Brandon Jacob Dietrich – Deloraine, MB –Lethbridge** Paul Kurceba – Calgary, AB –Kootenay** Cullen Morin – Meadow Lake, SK –Red Deer** Joel Ridgeway – Grosse Isle, MB –Tri-Cities**
University of New Brunswick - Saint John, NB (4)
Jonathan Harty – Oromocto, NB –Everett** Bretton Stamler – Edmonton, AB –Seattle** Daine Todd – Red Deer, AB –Medicine Hat** Ben Wright – Foremost, AB –Lethbridge**
St. Francis Xavier University –Antigonish, NS (9)
Jason Bast – Moose Jaw, SK –Moose Jaw** Derek Claffey – Red Deer, AB – Swift Current** Morgan Clark – Toronto, ON – Red Deer** Mark Louis – Ponoka, AB – Brandon Wheat** Spencer McAvoy – St. Albert, AB –Swift Current** Brett Robertson – Strathmore, AB –Seattle** Joey Perricone – San Juan Capistrano, CA – Moose Jaw** Kevin Undershute – Medicine Hat, AB – Medicine Hat** Brennan Wray – Moose Jaw, SK –Moose Jaw**
Lakehead University - Thunder Bay, ON (6)
Jeff Bosch – Martensville, SK –Regina** Chris de la Lande – Winnipeg, MB –Everett** Jason Grecica – Surrey, BC –Moose Jaw** Ryan McDonald – Prince Albert, SK – Regina** Riley McIntosh – Coquitlam, BC –Kelowna** Kalvin Sagert – Abbotsford, BC –Prince George**
University of Waterloo – Waterloo, ON (6)
Jeff Einhorn – Red Deer, AB –Victoria** Kirt Hill – Winnipeg, MB – Regina** Justin Leclerc – Saskatoon, SK –Lethbridge** Ryan Molle – Calgary, AB –Vancouver/Swift Current** Chris Ray – Kelowna, BC –Kelowna** Andy Smith – Rosetown, SK –Prince Albert**
University of Western Ontario –London, ON (1)
Yashar Farmanara – West Vancouver, BC – Lethbridge**
York University – Toronto, ON (3)
Ryan Andersen – Wainwright, AB –Portland** Chad Hohmann – Salmon Arm, BC –Prince George** Ryan Kerr – Lions Bay, BC –Lethbridge
Wilfrid Laurier University – Waterloo, ON (1)
Alex Poulter – Broomfield, CO – Red Deer/Prince George**
Memorial University of Newfoundland – St. John’s, NL (1)
Lucas Bloodoff – Castlegar, BC –Kelowna** Michael Stickland – Red Deer, AB –Kootenay**
University of Guelph – Guelph, ON (1)
Cale Jefferies – Glenboro, MB –Brandon**
McGill University – Montreal, QC (3) Colin Archer – Red Deer, AB – Red Deer Sanfred King – Brandon, MB –Brandon Mark Segal – Vancouver, BC –Vancouver
Nipissing University, North Bay, ON (4)
Dan Spence – Langley, BC – Calgary Grant Toulmin – Langley, BC – Swift Current Marcus Watson – San Jose, CA –Prince George Dan Watt – Winnipeg, MB – Tri-Cities**
University of Toronto – Toronto, ON (1)
Paul Van De Velde – Mariapolis, MB – Everett**
Queen’s University – Kingston, ON (1)
David Aime – Clandeboye, MB –Prince Albert**
University of Windsor – Windsor, ON (2)
Isak Quakenbush – Fairbanks, AK –Seattle** Jim Watt – Edmonton, AB – Victoria
NAIT – Edmonton, AB (8)
Jordan Baillie – Ft. Saskatchewan, AB – Lethbridge Steele Boomer – Edmonton, AB –Kootenay** Liam Darragh – Quesnel, BC –Victoria** Sam Dezman – Edmonton, AB –Medicine Hat Josh Koper – Edmonton, AB –Medicine Hat** Donny Lloyd – Cranbrook, BC –Swift Current Mike Piluso – Maple Ridge, BC –Vancouver Ryan Smith – Edmonton, AB –Medicine**
SAIT Polytechnic – Calgary, AB (9)
Brennan Chapman – Lloydminster, AB – Red Deer Alexander Grill-Donovan – Calgary, AB – Brandon Mitch McColm – Calgary, AB –Lethbridge** Riley Merkley – Blackie, AB –Calgary Clinton Pettapiece – Christina Lake, BC – Medicine Hat** Graham Potuer – Red Deer, AB –Everett Tommy Tartaglione – Harbour City, CA – Regina Corey Tyrell – Airdrie, AB – Prince George** Joel Woznikoski – Surrey, BC –Kamloops**
Okanagan College – Kelowna, BC (5)
Spencer Fraipont – Kelowna, BC –Regina *Sasha Golin – Summerland. BC –Portland Steven Kajic – Kelowna, BC – Prince George Marc MacKenzie – Kelowna, BC –Prince Albert** Brady Mason – Terrace, BC –Kamloops
Emergency Services Academy –Sherwood Park, AB (2)
Patrick Kozyra – Sherwood Park, AB – Red Deer Rebels Brian Sommers – Edmonton, AB –Moose Jaw
Concordia University College of Alberta – Edmonton, AB (1)
Andre Herman – Sherwood Park, AB – Moose Jaw**
Medicine Hat College – Medicine Hat, AB (2)
Shayne Brown – Stony Plain, AB –Medicine Hat Tanner Sohn – Medicine Hat, AB –Saskatoon
Olds College – Olds, AB (1)
Trevor Bauer – Torrington, AB –Prince George
Winnipeg Technical School –Winnipeg, MB (1)
Kevin Armstrong – Winnipeg, MB –Saskatoon/Spokane
Augustana – Camrose, AB (2)
Joel Danyluk – Yorkton, SK – Prince George Brent Ottmann – Martensville, SK –Prince Albert**
Assiniboine Community College –Brandon, MB (2)
Bryce Lamb – Killarney, MB –Vancouver Cory More – Deloraine, MB –Medicine Hat
Briercrest College – Caronport, SK (1)
Tyler Esau – Abbotsford, BC –Seattle**
Camosun College – Victoria, BC (1)
Kyle St. Denis – Trail, BC - Kelowna
Douglas College - Coquitlam, BC (1)
Brenden Sylvester – Port Coquitlam, BC – Seattle
Justice Institute of British Columbia – New Westminster, BC (3)
Colby Kulhanek – Port Coquitlam, BC – Prince George Jason Lynch – Coquitlam, BC – Red Deer Jordan Wilkins – Princeton, BC –Kootenay
Kwantlen University College –Surrey, BC (1)
Kyzen Loo – Richmond, BC –Portland
Lakeland College – Vermillion, AB (2)
Cody Esposito – Airdrie, AB – Red Deer Bo Montgomery – Moose Jaw, SK –Medicine Hat
Lethbridge College – Lethbridge, AB (1)
Ryan Costanzo – Montrose, BC –Vancouver
Operating Engineers Local 115 Training Association (1)
Mike Alexander – Campbell River, BC – Everett
Portage College – Cold Lake, AB (1)
Kyle Birch – Winnipeg, MB – Tri-Cities
Red River College – Winkler, MB (2)
Kyle Mulder – West St. Paul, MB –Regina Cam Stevens – Brandon, MB –Victoria
SaskPower Training & Development Centre – Weyburn, SK (1)
Jesse Burt – North Battleford, SK –Everett
SIAST (Kelsey Campus) –Saskatoon, SK (1)
Josh Elder – Saskatoon, SK – Prince Albert
SIAST (Palliser Campus) – Moose Jaw, SK (2)
Robert Holoien – Melfort, SK – Tri-Cities Joe Logan – Gull Lake, SK –Vancouver
SIAST (Parkland College) – Melville, SK (1)
Ty Ariss – Regina, SK – Portland
SIAST (Wascana Campus) – Regina, SK (2)
Taylor Ernst – Regina, SK – Swift Current Ashton Hewson – Cutknife, SK –Prince Albert
Utopia Academy – Abbotsford, BC (1)
Mike Gauthier – North Vancouver, B.C. – Prince Albert
Vancouver Community College –Vancouver, BC (1)
James Priestner – Edmonton, AB –Kamloops
IV. US Colleges/Universities (9)
Brooks Institute – Ventura, CA (1)
Todd Mathews – Covina, CA –Moose Jaw
University of California, San Diego (1)
Matt Sokol – Los Angeles, CA –Portland
Eastern Washington University –Tacoma, WA (1)
Seth Compton – West Richland, WA – Spokane
Kilgore College Fire Academy –Kilgore, TX (1)
Sawyer Mick – Vernon, BC –Portland
Lewis-Clark State College –Lewiston, ID (1)
Jordan Beveridge – Pitt Meadows, BC – Kamloops
National Strength & Conditioning Association (CSCS) – Colorado Springs, CO (1)
Kyle Moir – Calgary, AB – Swift Current
University of Nevada, Reno (1)
Hudson Stremmel - Reno, NV –Prince George
University of Phoenix – Phoenix, AZ (1)
Cameron Cepek – Huntington Beach, CA – Portland
University of Texas – Dallas, TX (1)
Colin Haas – Plano, TX – Prince George/Seattle
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Summary: WHL Scholarships 2011-2012 Canadian Universities, Western Canada – 183 Canadian Universities, Eastern Canada – 54 Canadian Colleges and other institutions – 56 U.S. Colleges, Universities – 9 Total - WHL Scholarships – 300
WHL Graduates continuing to play hockey at the elite Canadian University or College level: Canada West Conference – 111 Ontario University Athletics /Atlantic University Sport Conferences – 43 ACAC / BCIHL – 12 Total – 166
In addition to those 300 WHL grads attending university/college on scholarship last season, over 100 additional players attended college online or in local institutions while playing for a WHL team on the teams dime. That's over 400 active scholarships during last season, and unlike the Q, the WHL is full ride - tuition, books and and compulsory fees
Does institution of your choice include any US school. I didn't read through the entire list you posted but tuition in Canada is much lower than that of say Univ of Michigan, BC, WI. Most of the CHL players are Canadian and will do their schooling in Canada but for those that choose an institution in the US that is expensive (20k+ per year for tuition alone) is there a limit to what the WHL will pay?
It has been explained to me this way with regards to Minnesota kids. You do get tuition to a University of choice based on the going rate if your "local" institution. For Minnesota, the WHL uses University of Minnesota, Mankato? as the "local" institution for the purposes of calculating the scholarship. At the time that was between 13-16k per year.
That said, all of these things are negotiable and I have heard of Minnesota kids securing U of M equivalent.
Its also worth noting that many of these Canadian Schools are higher ranked globally than moat of the D1 schools who can offer athletic scholarshsips. The University of Michigan is the top ranked (non Ivy League) D1 school with a global rank of #18. University of Minnesota ranks in at #42. None of the other Minnesota D1 hockey schools rank in the top 200.
By contrast, Univ of Toronto is #19. University of British Columbia is #22. McGill is #28. McMaster is #65 and University of Alberta is #100.
The notion that a better education awaits the NCAA route or the stereotype that "stupid" players go the CHL are born out of ignorance.
These days, a player who is capable of playing the game at a high level while maintaining good marks in school can create tremendous opportunities for himself through the WHL not just on the ice, but in securing a world class education PAID IN FULL.
Again I know it is not for everyone, particularly in Minnesota where the chools are so close to home, but a tremendous opportunity for many nonetheless.
Snow ... sorry, I guess I only answered half your question. The tuition amount can be applied at any school, so if the player has earned a 4 year scholorship at 16k per year and wishes to use it for 4years at Mankati he can. He can also apply the funds to tuition to Yale if he prefers. Its up the player where he wants to spend the funds. Some who are still chasing the dream use it on a school where they can play hockey. For others they move on with other interests and pursuits as they see fit. Its a fantastic program. We have had friends come through it very successfully
And sorry for all the typos. I am composing on my phone and fat fingering everything ... I don't recommend it. The rankings were supplied by World university Rankings if anyone is interested. I don't know entirely what they are based on and I hope I didn't insult anybody's school. That is not my intention
scorekeeper wrote:And sorry for all the typos. I am composing on my phone and fat fingering everything ... I don't recommend it. The rankings were supplied by World university Rankings if anyone is interested. I don't know entirely what they are based on and I hope I didn't insult anybody's school. That is not my intention
Very good point. Most Canadian colleges/univ have excellent academic programs.
Tigers33 wrote:You guys should move to Canada than
No kidding. I gotta laugh when a guy says he isn't trying to hype one over the other and then goes on to put together a number of defensive posts about the WHL that seem about as long as "War and Peace".
MN kids should stay away from the WHL. If you go the WHL route, you better make big waves fast (before you age out) or else you'll disappear from the landscape and find yourself playing for some weak Canadian college hockey team that nobody cares about.
Let's also point out this reality... those scholarships are not a given.
The player will forfeit his scholarship WHL Scholarship should the following occur:
- A player is required by their post-secondary institution to withdraw due to failure to maintain passing grades
- A player signs a professional hockey contract at the NHL, AHL or Elite European level
- A player does not enroll in a post secondary program within one year following his last season of eligibility in the WHL
- The Graduate Player is permitted to play one year in a designated professional league (ECHL or lower) without forfeiting their WHL Scholarship benefits.
Not defensive posts at all, just addressing innacuracies. I happen to agree with you that Minnesota players are better served through the NCAA route. But the further your home base gets from actual D1 hockey programs, the more NCAA eligibility diminishes in value.
For California kids, as an example (and almost all Canadian kids), losing NCAA eligibility is a bit like eing banned from the McDomalds at the Mall of America food court.
