HIBBING vs DULUTH MARSHALL

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Hibbing or Marshall

PUBLIC Bluejackets
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PRIVATE Hilltoppers
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Post by hshockey17 »

RidingPine32 wrote:
GoGoGophers wrote:iceman23 wrote:
The only recruiting DM can be blamed for is being successful. Just like at Notre Dame in its prime for football people wanted to go because of its prestige. This is the same for DM, people want to play there because it has good hockey. Yeah i guess if you call succes recruting then DM is the best at it.

But is it right? I dont believe recruiting at the high school level is right for anything. Not everyone will play college hockey so you shouldnt go to a high school just to play hockey thats for college when your thinking about the next level. There is just as many kids getting recruited from public schools to go to college as private. So leaving your school behind to play for some stupid private school isnt right. I dont agree with it. And you say Marshall is the best at it. I believe this year STA has you beat along with many AA schools.
I agree in principle with what you arer saying. I've argued that we need to go back to the rules of the 60's when the public schools and the private schools had separate hockey tournaments. Then we could get back to a single class tourney, I believe.

Wouldn't alot more of the people want to watch the Private School Tournament then?
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hshockey17 wrote:
RidingPine32 wrote:
GoGoGophers wrote:iceman23 wrote:
The only recruiting DM can be blamed for is being successful. Just like at Notre Dame in its prime for football people wanted to go because of its prestige. This is the same for DM, people want to play there because it has good hockey. Yeah i guess if you call succes recruting then DM is the best at it.

But is it right? I dont believe recruiting at the high school level is right for anything. Not everyone will play college hockey so you shouldnt go to a high school just to play hockey thats for college when your thinking about the next level. There is just as many kids getting recruited from public schools to go to college as private. So leaving your school behind to play for some stupid private school isnt right. I dont agree with it. And you say Marshall is the best at it. I believe this year STA has you beat along with many AA schools.
I agree in principle with what you arer saying. I've argued that we need to go back to the rules of the 60's when the public schools and the private schools had separate hockey tournaments. Then we could get back to a single class tourney, I believe.

Wouldn't alot more of the people want to watch the Private School Tournament then?
Not me I would never go.
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Post by iceman23 »

GoGoGophers wrote:iceman23 wrote:
The only recruiting DM can be blamed for is being successful. Just like at Notre Dame in its prime for football people wanted to go because of its prestige. This is the same for DM, people want to play there because it has good hockey. Yeah i guess if you call succes recruting then DM is the best at it.

But is it right? I dont believe recruiting at the high school level is right for anything. Not everyone will play college hockey so you shouldnt go to a high school just to play hockey thats for college when your thinking about the next level. There is just as many kids getting recruited from public schools to go to college as private. So leaving your school behind to play for some stupid private school isnt right. I dont agree with it. And you say Marshall is the best at it. I believe this year STA has you beat along with many AA schools.
Well that proves my point even more at DM you don't only get to be apart of a great hockey team you also get an extremely good education. By the way being on a good "stupid private school" team is better then being on a bad public team if your looking to play college plus you get a great education out of it. Correct me if im wrong DM beat STA 8-2!
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Post by hshckfan08 »

GoGoGophers wrote:iceman23 wrote:
The only recruiting DM can be blamed for is being successful. Just like at Notre Dame in its prime for football people wanted to go because of its prestige. This is the same for DM, people want to play there because it has good hockey. Yeah i guess if you call succes recruting then DM is the best at it.

But is it right? I dont believe recruiting at the high school level is right for anything. Not everyone will play college hockey so you shouldnt go to a high school just to play hockey thats for college when your thinking about the next level. There is just as many kids getting recruited from public schools to go to college as private. So leaving your school behind to play for some stupid private school isnt right. I dont agree with it. And you say Marshall is the best at it. I believe this year STA has you beat along with many AA schools.
So are you asking if it is right to be successful? If this is what your asking then you cant put the blame on the school and all of a sudden say they are recruiting. THat is a decision made by the kids. If the school has no influence on kids other than winning hockey games, how can the school be blamed?
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Post by boblee »

I'd really like to see Hibbing win this game. Can they do it? Absolutely. They have two superstar players in DeCenzo and Jamnick and they have gotten very, very good goaltending at times. In this game they will need both the good goaltending and great play by the superstars, but some role player is going to have to make a big play or two if Hibbing is going to go to St. Paul. I am rooting for you, Hibbing. Do the job.
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Post by PuckRanger »

Thank you, boblee, for bringing this thread back on topic. =D>
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Post by PASTRAPIDSFAN »

PuckRanger wrote:Thank you, boblee, for bringing this thread back on topic. =D>
I will give it a little push GO HIBBING
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Post by vppp »

i would love to see NOT 1 private school make it to the state tournament. that's the world i one day want to live in
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Post by elytwolvesfan »

Decenzo needs to have a big game for the jackets to win.... which i think he will..... Hibbing always finds a way to make it to state.... except for the last 2 years thanks to h town who took home a 3rd place in 2006 and won the title last year! However hibbing always plays well in the finals so....

Hibbing 4

Private school- 3

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Post by snapdog »

DM breaks out of there defensive zone better than any other team I have seen thus far this year. I have watched a lot of talented teams and games this season. When you move the puck out of your defensive zone so well you simply have a great advantage. The goaltending is also good. DM shows little weakness throughout. Hibbing will have to play there very best game of the year to advance. Saying that Hibbing is right back at it (When it counts) and with Decenzo and Jamnick anything can happen. DM 3 Hibbing 1. SOG DM 35 Hibbing 19.
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Post by eastranger19 »

Marshall will take this one because of depth, better defense and goaltending. Sandstrom has been good and bad and lucky at times, but not tonight. 5-2 marshall.
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Post by dherman8 »

vppp wrote:i would love to see NOT 1 private school make it to the state tournament. that's the world i one day want to live in
I hope such a world exists.
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Post by 7A22A »

dherman8 wrote:
vppp wrote:i would love to see NOT 1 private school make it to the state tournament. that's the world i one day want to live in
I hope such a world exists.
I can tell you it won't be in 08. I hope this poll motivates Marshall.
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Post by RonJeremy »

7A22A wrote:
dherman8 wrote:
vppp wrote:i would love to see NOT 1 private school make it to the state tournament. that's the world i one day want to live in
I hope such a world exists.
I can tell you it won't be in 08. I hope this poll motivates Marshall.
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Post by Kurdatz »

Hibbing has played some decent hockey towards the end of the year, and I give them credit where credit is due, but I don't see them getting by Duluth Marshall...not tonight.

DeCenzzo will play his heart out, and I'm sure there will be some great plays made, but I don't see it happening on the bigger scale. Then again, they did take out the Falls, while being outshot. Any given night in hte land of HS hockey in MN...

DM is deep at offense and defense and I think they want another stab at the big dance, so I'm going to say:

Duluth Marshall: 5 (EN)
Hibbing: 2
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Post by SwampDonkey »

very true well said i dont think either team is bad hibbing derserves to be there marshall does to marshalls GA average is somthing like 1.5 or lower....SCARY good i doubt many players including jamink and dencenzo (?spelling) are going to be able to score hibbing has a fire under there ass if marshall wins the first period it over reffing will be key though even though marshall has something like 18 short handed goals its a momentum breaker and hibbing struglles on pp so we will have to wait and see from what ive seen both teams seem to be fairly disciplined marshall a few struggles with penaltys throughout hibbing has not been succesful in un even situations they have two guys in the 60's for point maybe one or two in the twents and then drops to like 9 points


thats just the facts from watching and reading you can do the math
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SwampDonkey wrote:very true well said i dont think either team is bad hibbing derserves to be there marshall does to marshalls GA average is somthing like 1.5 or lower....SCARY good i doubt many players including jamink and dencenzo (?spelling) are going to be able to score hibbing has a fire under there ass if marshall wins the first period it over reffing will be key though even though marshall has something like 18 short handed goals its a momentum breaker and hibbing struglles on pp so we will have to wait and see from what ive seen both teams seem to be fairly disciplined marshall a few struggles with penaltys throughout hibbing has not been succesful in un even situations they have two guys in the 60's for point maybe one or two in the twents and then drops to like 9 points


thats just the facts from watching and reading you can do the math
I agree. That's why I'm using the numbers in my previous prediction. I think DM has a more balanced team. A more balanced team can usually afford to make some mistakes here and there and still come thru...not HUGE mistakes, just some mistakes. Thats why I believe Marshall SHOULD win.

Then again, I've seen where a player or two get HOT in a playoff game and just go to town.

I don't see that happening, but it has in the past...

I still see Marshall coming out on top. I think this one's on TV too.
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Post by Zamboni Guy »

I definitely think that the TV timeouts will benefit Hibbing/Chisholm in this contest. The longer they can keep their top line's legs fresh the better their odds are at being able to match Duluth Marshall's firepower. I'm really hoping that the Bluejackets defense and goaltending can have the game of their life tonight and pull off the upset over the Toppers.
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Post by Kurdatz »

Thats a good point from the both of you, something I forgot about. TV breaks.

That's definitely to Hibbings advantage, but at the same time, both teams get a chance to rest don't they? So whose REAL advantage is it then?

It does benefit Hibbing to try and keep up with the Marshall firepower, line for line, but in the end, we'll see.
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Post by HoundHockeyForever »

I have yet to see Hibbing play this year, but seeing that they beat I Falls definitely says something. The 2-0 Marshall win was 79 days ago.. A lot has changed since then. Also, to whoever is talking about Marshall's GF average.. don't. 12-0 Silver bay, 10-0 Central, and 12-1 Ashland? thats 34 goals in 3 games to beef up the GF average. You'll get a GF average like that when you play teams like these. Hibbings GF avg is 3.583333. When you take out Marshalls scores against SB, Central, and Ashland, Marshalls avg is 3.8. Also, Hibbing is ranked 40th on the strength of schedule on Minnhock when Marshall is ranked hmm.. 59th. The reason I think this will be a good game, and why Hibbing could win, is because they play challenging opponents, and I'm not saying Marshall doesn't, but they also don't play teams who they can easily beat.

This should be a good game, and I hope the Bluejackets can pull this one out.
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Post by formerallstar »

This should be an good game........Hibbing has to have a lot of momentum coming off the I'Falls win and they have really stepped up their game towards the end of the year.......I would like to see Hibbing win this one and hopefully make something happen at state.....please don't win DM. I have a hard time considering Marshall a "northern" school and dread the thought of them representing 7A. Both teams 2nd and 3rd lines will have to put the puck in the net if either team wants to punch their ticket to the X

Hibbing Bluejackets-------------2

Duluth Marshall Hilltoppers-----1 OT
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Post by Zamboni Guy »

Well, so far in the 7A Final match-up from the DECC I can tell you that Duluth Marshall's band would win in a battle of ugliest band jackets. :shock:
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Post by formerallstar »

Hibbing up 1-0 after 1. Hibbing I think is playing real well defensively. They are putting a body on whatever Marshall kid has the puck. The shots are 12-2 but i think Hibbing is bottling up Marshall real well with their physical play. They will have to keep this up. Lets go Bluejackets. Represent the Iron Range well!!!!!!!
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Post by PASTRAPIDSFAN »

2-0 HIBBING
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2-1 HIBBING
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