Top Programs All Time in Minnesota

[packerboy]

Thats great Green and White but things aren't all that different in the metro and in Catholic schools for that matter.

Most of the people that coach at CDH are alums (all sports ). Kids go to Catholic grade school in the St Paul area and follow the school's sports teams and their players.

Joe Mauer was a legend long before you ever heard of him. There are many other examples.

Generations of families have gone to the school and its tradition and the loyalty and dedication to its continued success is unsurpassed, even in Roseau.

You can be proud of Roseau and rightfully so but you have nothing on many of the schools in the metro whether they be private , Catholic or public.

[BIAFP]

Thats great Green and White but things aren't all that different in the metro and in Catholic schools for that matter.

Most of the people that coach at CDH are alums (all sports ). Kids go to Catholic grade school in the St Paul area and follow the school's sports teams and their players.

Joe Mauer was a legend long before you ever heard of him. There are many other examples.

Generations of families have gone to the school and its tradition and the loyalty and dedication to its continued success is unsurpassed, even in Roseau.

You can be proud of Roseau and rightfully so but you have nothing on many of the schools in the metro whether they be private , Catholic or public.

Joe Mauer played hockey?

[packerboy]

There are other sports BIAFP. They , combined with a championship in hockey , create connection , loyalty and tradition. Some good players that were on the CDH hockey championship team had baseball as their #1 sport.

I think most folks know that.

[HockeyFan1]

Thats great Green and White but things aren't all that different in the metro and in Catholic schools for that matter.

Most of the people that coach at CDH are alums (all sports ). Kids go to Catholic grade school in the St Paul area and follow the school's sports teams and their players.

Joe Mauer was a legend long before you ever heard of him. There are many other examples.

Generations of families have gone to the school and its tradition and the loyalty and dedication to its continued success is unsurpassed, even in Roseau.

You can be proud of Roseau and rightfully so but you have nothing on many of the schools in the metro whether they be private , Catholic or public.

So these kids that are playing in their Soph, Junior, and Senior years @ places such as Hill Murray - almost all have gone to school there since grade school and grown up in their system?

[finance_gal]

For the most part kids that got to private high schools have gone to parochial grade schools or some other private school that dosen't have a hockey system so they learn to play in community programs and the parents have nothing to do with there area public school systems other then pay for it through there property taxes.

[packerboy]

HockeyFan, I cant speak about all schools.

Neither can you.

What I do know is some of the kids that go on to Catholic high school went to kindergarten together.

Grow up in the same system? Hopefully, they arent emphasizing systems at the youth level.

[HockeyFan1]

HockeyFan, I cant speak about all schools.

Neither can you.

What I do know is some of the kids that go on to Catholic high school went to kindergarten together.

Grow up in the same system? Hopefully, they arent emphasizing systems at the youth level.

"systems" in Roseau start in youth hockey.....as G&W fan mentioned, it all starts in the youth hockey system througout - with a goal of making it to the High School hockey team and becoming a Ram. That is where the tradition starts to kick in - with most of the youth hockey coaches being alumni, teaching their kids and other kids our "system". It carries on through Mites, Squirts, Pewees, Bantams, through High School, on to higher levels if a particular player advances, and eventually cycles back to even "old timers" league.

This is what makes state tournament appearances that much more "special" to all involved.

[packerboy]

Right HockeyFan, you are just soooo special.

[HockeyFan1]

Right HockeyFan, you are just soooo special.

Hey, you can at least admit to something.......

You have your opinion, I have mine. I'm not 100% right, but neither are you.

[packerboy]

HFan1, I agree with you but we have problems out there with people who think that: their experiences are the only ones that matter; that their school is the only kind that should exist; and that their successes are the only ones that are truly earned and enjoyed and indeed "special" .

Its great to take pride in your deal, whatever it is.
But leave room for the possibility that others ,who might be a little different , cherish their experinces just as much as you do.

[HockeyFan1]

HFan1, I agree with you but we have problems out there with people who think that: their experiences are the only ones that matter; that their school is the only kind that should exist; and that their successes are the only ones that are truly earned and enjoyed and indeed "special" .

Its great to take pride in your deal, whatever it is.
But leave room for the possibility that others ,who might be a little different , cherish their experinces just as much as you do.

Fair enough...

So who do you take pride in?

[finance_gal]

In Roseau the system works well for them, the kids have pretty much one choice where they will play hockey while they grow up, In the rest of the world we have choices, we are a transient society, people are moving from one city to the next, from one part of town to another. We chose Private Schools because moving was part of the nature of our jobs and we felt keeping kids in the same school system was important. My children have gone to school with the same group of kids since 1st grade. and have played hockey for 3 different area programs...so who should have there rights as hockey players, the area where they learned to play or the are we live in now......How about the school that we have worked hard to be able to send our kids to!!! people who trash the privates should open there eyes to changing world. In many ways places like Roseau are becoming more and more rare because in america people cannot be held back by antiquated systems. Those who grow with the worlds changes will thrive, those who refuse to grow will go the way of the dinosours.

[packerboy]

Id take a lot of pride in my golf game if it would ever quit snowing.

But for high school sports, I follow CDH the closest, as has been mentioned.

[HockeyFan1]

In Roseau the system works well for them, the kids have pretty much one choice where they will play hockey while they grow up, In the rest of the world we have choices, we are a transient society, people are moving from one city to the next, from one part of town to another. We chose Private Schools because moving was part of the nature of our jobs and we felt keeping kids in the same school system was important. My children have gone to school with the same group of kids since 1st grade. and have played hockey for 3 different area programs...so who should have there rights as hockey players, the area where they learned to play or the are we live in now......How about the school that we have worked hard to be able to send our kids to!!! people who trash the privates should open there eyes to changing world. In many ways places like Roseau are becoming more and more rare because in america people cannot be held back by antiquated systems. Those who grow with the worlds changes will thrive, those who refuse to grow will go the way of the dinosours.

Finance Gal - if that is where you are happy, then so be it. I won't argue your points any further. I will sit here and be happy in our "antiquated system".

[BIAFP]

HockeyFan, You are wasting your time with the likes of FinanceGal/AnklesPierre as they live in a faceless society otherwise known as the concrete jungle to their fellow citidiots. They do not recognize the wonderful traditions of the northern "communities" and the pride that representing "your community" can bring. And in communities like Roseau the poor public schools teach the difference between "there and their" which FinanceGal missed in private school.

[Green and White Fan]

I think dinosours who grow up with hometown values, work ethic, pride and loyalty will fair just fine in the world.

[east hockey]

In Roseau the system works well for them, the kids have pretty much one choice where they will play hockey while they grow up, In the rest of the world we have choices, we are a transient society, people are moving from one city to the next, from one part of town to another. We chose Private Schools because moving was part of the nature of our jobs and we felt keeping kids in the same school system was important. My children have gone to school with the same group of kids since 1st grade. and have played hockey for 3 different area programs...so who should have there rights as hockey players, the area where they learned to play or the are we live in now......How about the school that we have worked hard to be able to send our kids to!!! people who trash the privates should open there eyes to changing world. In many ways places like Roseau are becoming more and more rare because in america people cannot be held back by antiquated systems. Those who grow with the worlds changes will thrive, those who refuse to grow will go the way of the dinosours.

When you attempted to make a distinction between Roseau and "the rest of the world", you accomplished a few things:

1. You lost the point you were trying to make
2. You proved the point of Out Staters and public school supporters
3. You made me glad I attended public schools.

Smug much? Attaway.

Lee

[td577]

In Roseau the system works well for them, the kids have pretty much one choice where they will play hockey while they grow up, In the rest of the world we have choices, we are a transient society, people are moving from one city to the next, from one part of town to another. We chose Private Schools because moving was part of the nature of our jobs and we felt keeping kids in the same school system was important. My children have gone to school with the same group of kids since 1st grade. and have played hockey for 3 different area programs...so who should have there rights as hockey players, the area where they learned to play or the are we live in now......How about the school that we have worked hard to be able to send our kids to!!! people who trash the privates should open there eyes to changing world. In many ways places like Roseau are becoming more and more rare because in america people cannot be held back by antiquated systems. Those who grow with the worlds changes will thrive, those who refuse to grow will go the way of the dinosours.

Thanks for the laugh. It is quite sad one would use ignorance while attempting to make a point about moving forward. How forward moving has your HM program been? How many championships, a very true test of thriving in this program, in recent memory? Or, for that matter, at all? The Roseau system is indeed rare because people like you can't stomach the dedication to excellence in your hockey program. Progress? The amount of Roseau kids, hockey or not, going on to get college degrees is astounding. You mock what you don't understand.

[Neutron 14]

In Roseau the system works well for them, the kids have pretty much one choice where they will play hockey while they grow up, In the rest of the world we have choices, we are a transient society, people are moving from one city to the next, from one part of town to another. We chose Private Schools because moving was part of the nature of our jobs and we felt keeping kids in the same school system was important. My children have gone to school with the same group of kids since 1st grade. and have played hockey for 3 different area programs...so who should have there rights as hockey players, the area where they learned to play or the are we live in now......How about the school that we have worked hard to be able to send our kids to!!! people who trash the privates should open there eyes to changing world. In many ways places like Roseau are becoming more and more rare because in america people cannot be held back by antiquated systems. Those who grow with the worlds changes will thrive, those who refuse to grow will go the way of the dinosours.

When you attempted to make a distinction between Roseau and "the rest of the world", you accomplished a few things:

1. You lost the point you were trying to make
2. You proved the point of Out Staters and public school supporters
3. You made me glad I attended public schools.

Smug much? Attaway.

Lee

As Prince Charles put it Lee, we just don't know our station in life....

[finance_gal]

you people are quick point to how good your public schools are but no one has answered where my kids home school district should be, should it be in morehead where they learned to play hockey before most of them started school? or in the Como area of St paul where the spent there middle school years and developed into good hockey players, how about in Woodbury where we live now? I didn't mean to put any area down but people are constantly moving in most of the State of Minnesota now, our jobs demand it and it seems that all roads lead to the cites...Roseau is a unique situation as are some small towns because people stay there from cradle to grave. If i lived in Roseau my kids would go to school there and be part of there system but because I live in the cities we have found that there is no system that fits most kids unless we want to send our kids into the black hole they call the public school system

[packerboy]

Lee wrote:

"When you attempted to make a distinction between Roseau and "the rest of the world", you accomplished a few things:

1. You lost the point you were trying to make
2. You proved the point of Out Staters and public school supporters
3. You made me glad I attended public schools.


As it relates to those accomplisments:
1. Which was what?
2. Which is what?
3. You already were

[BIAFP]

[quote="finance_gal"] morehead? l where the spent there? the cites?? kids would go to school there and be part of there??????













found that there????? we want to send our kids into the black hole they call the public school system.



Send them to the same private school you went to, the English classes worked wonders for you

[Knowlzee]

Finance_gal may have just written one of the funniest posts of all time, posted at 12:19 today. This is good stuff,...."rest of the world",......"transient society",......"changing world",....."antiquated system"'......"go the way of the dinosaur", and now,....."the black hole".

Does she really want someone to tell her where her home school should be? Can't decide for herself? Ask the MSHSL, I am sure they would be happy to tell a "transient",......where to go.

[TTpuckster]

In Roseau the system works well for them, the kids have pretty much one choice where they will play hockey while they grow up, In the rest of the world we have choices, we are a transient society, people are moving from one city to the next, from one part of town to another. We chose Private Schools because moving was part of the nature of our jobs and we felt keeping kids in the same school system was important. My children have gone to school with the same group of kids since 1st grade. and have played hockey for 3 different area programs...so who should have there rights as hockey players, the area where they learned to play or the are we live in now......How about the school that we have worked hard to be able to send our kids to!!! people who trash the privates should open there eyes to changing world. In many ways places like Roseau are becoming more and more rare because in america people cannot be held back by antiquated systems. Those who grow with the worlds changes will thrive, those who refuse to grow will go the way of the dinosours.

An "antiquated" system that just KICKED BUTT at the state tourney.
Not bad, I say!!!!!

[Sparlimb]

An "antiquated" system that just KICKED BUTT at the state tourney.
Not bad, I say!!!!!

I think most of you have lost the spirit of the thread. Just because a school is public or private doesn't change the fact that players, students, parents and alumni take pride in that school. It is a fallacy to argue any unique situation is better then any other. Private schools can be great places for some kids while a complete nightmare for others. That can also be true of any two public schools. The idea here is to give kids the chance to grow up and suceed where they best fit in.

That said, there have been a lot of treasured programs in Minnesota. It is very hard to pick any top 5 or top 10. The University of Minnesota has 6 national championships in football, which is tied for 9th most with Pittsburgh. But how many people would name them in a similar poll of the top 10 football programs of all time? I've seen arguments from Badger fans saying the "modern era" of college football started around 1990 (which is when Barry Alvarez got there and they went from being a bottom feeder to a very sucessfull program). Obviously you can't just take whatever time frame is convenient for your team and use that to back an argument. Sure Hill-Murray has more state appearances since 1975 then any other team. But that doesn't mean that is the only time frame that should be considered. I'd argue that you should all be very proud of your local program whatever that is. And useless questions such as the top 10 all time can be forgotten about. Truth is, I really don't care where you rank H-M in your list. I'm going to still be a fan and attend all the games I can next year. Peace out!