Section 7AA - next year

[wild77]

I was talking of the News Tribune All Area team. Were they on that one? <p></p><i></i>

[hawksrock0304]

Oh, I thought you were refering to the Iron Range Conference team wild whatever. Nevermind.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Skatingslow]

I am just pondering how you three can go on and on arguing over a simple fact. THe top line is section is yet to be determined. The season doesn't start until November 29 or whatever it is. I believe that Cloquet and GR will face eachother for the 1st game of the season so we will see how good these teams are then. As for columbus and stunyo, both are good, but best in the area is a bit overrated. No forward has done anything yet to deserve talk except Rob Johnson. Otherwise all the forwards are mediocre at best. Let's wait for at least summer league for everyone to start talking. <p></p><i></i>

[MKMB]

Marshall has players that could go to East and actually play, and be good. Not every player, but some. Kids don't go to Marshall just for hockey. You get a great education, i don't know if it is worth $8,500, but it is the best in northern MN, and you get to play for a good hockey team. The school gets you ready for college, because not every player is going to be playing hockey for their job.<br><br>Some people have brought up the possibility of Marshall moving up to 7AA in the future. What do you think? <p></p><i></i>

[longstick]

Mr. Marshall Hockey - <br><br>Marshall better education than East? <br><br>that is probably up for discussion...however...East has more electives, more honor classes, better test scores (fact), more activities..but lets stick with hockey - East could have played "A" this year...they opted up....to play big school (East is around 1,000) marshall should play "AA" why not.....they can recruit anywhere they want...but before you start talking "AA" - win section 2A.... then start talking "AA"....I will give Marshall cudos for beating some very good teams this year...it would be nice to see two Duluth teams in the show next year......but I'm sure cloquet, rapids, greenway.....and section 2a have other thoughts on that matter...... <p></p><i></i>

[7AAFAN]

cakeh8er. Are you seriously tying Cloquets improvement for next year to 3 kids from crappy single A teams "trying out"? Silver Bay and Moose Lake? Come on now, you guys find some players from Marshall or East to "transfer" and maybe you can plan on some improvement, but Silver Bay and Moose Lake? Holy cow, good luck if that's what you are banking your run to state on. And correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you guys end up the season riding a senior goalie into the playoffs. I see you claim you are only losing 3 seniors, but I thought the little goalie who played down the stretch was a senior too? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub33.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUser ... >7AAFAN</A> at: 4/1/04 10:26 pm<br></i>

[goalie91]

7AAFAN,You say " you guys find some players from Marshall or East to "transfer" and maybe you can plan on some improvement, but Silver Bay and Moose Lake? Any guesses when Blaine Gamst 39 points( Tied for Team lead with the Johnson brothers)for East and Eric and Nick LaBounty from Marshall are from? Yes from crappy Moose Lake. They probably would have been a tad bit better if they would have all stayed. Also East got to two State Tournaments with that crappy Moose Lake kid and Marshall got to a section Final with two crappy Moose Lake kids. Cloquet might be on the right track? What team are you on? <p></p><i></i>

[7AAFAN]

To answer your last question first goalie, I am not on any team, but if anything i embrace the way that Hermantown has done it. Start with a developing youth program, build from within, and give your athletes a reason to stay in your program. I guess if anything, your response to me indicated what I see as being wrong with "open enrollment". What kind of a community team would Moose Lake have with the players you mentioned AND the ones that are rumored to be leaving. Not a crappy team I would venture to say. <p></p><i></i>

[cakeh8er16]

WEll now we there are 3 kids from silver bay skating with us, two of the three play select hockey, and the third is devan Van House. So even though he played in the all star game, you are saying they wont help???<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Skatingslow]

It's amazing that Devan Van House is skating with you guys becasue he's a senior so he won't be able to play next year. I just find it interesting that you are so proud to have someone that isn't eligible for next year's program. Just might want to check that info <p></p><i></i>

[hockeyfan35]

I don't think he will help you to much next year either <p></p><i></i>

[LSandA]

People who post continue to ignore the greyhounds. I heard East is going to be really strong again next year. The word is they will have alot of speed and fire power up front with the likes of Johnson, Shumaker, Recter, Nelson, Anderson ect..., with 5-6 upperclassman D's. Also the word is Sall the Senior goalie will be the best around with Junior Melby a spitfire and capable back-up. Add to this equation a deep J.V. program with a solid group of incoming Bantams.... East hockey is looking strong. I think that the posting people to this site should give the hounds the credit they deserve...It only seems right.<br><br>I give Greenway big Kudos for continuing to play Class AA. There is alot to be said for that program. They refuse to cop out and take the single A plunge. The players from Greenway try to win at the top level with no excuses. By the way their former coach Guyer is a class act. The state needs more guys like him that are not afraid to lose. <br><br>I like Cloquet because of coach Esse. Rapids without Goli is a crapshoot. How about Brainard? Looks like another trip south for the hounds. I am sure they will be tough once again. <p></p><i></i>

[hckyfan44]

A Topper vs. Greyhound matchup would be great for Duluth. A lot of people would watch that game and it would be one of the games of the year in Duluth. It would also put all the talking on hold and let the teams battle it out on the ice. The toppers have tried unsuccessfully to play the greyhounds for the past few years but all invitations have been denied. Although it would be wonderful to see, i do see where east is coming from. Having lost good young talents such as the pauls, the molines, kevin jones and andrew ritts, a loss to the toppers would be devistating for the hound program. Good players want to play for the best and if the toppers beat east more players would be making the switch.<br>And for the education debate, Marshall is known for its academic excellence sending kids to top schools in the country year in and year out. While i don't think East is a bad school by any stretch of the imagination, they, nor anyone else in northern minnesota, can provide the education for their students that marshall does. <p></p><i></i>

[LSandA]

You have to be kidding...<br><br>Marshall vs. East a good game? SInce when. I believe East did just fine this past year without the Marshall transfers.Section 7AA Champs and state third place finishers at the big show. Marshall on the other hand...could not quite get out of that tiger section 2A. The Marshall people continue to talk a big game, however still cannot back any of it up on the ice. It is obvious why Marshall can,t get a game with East. They are behind many better AA teams and A teams that want to play the greyhounds.<br><br>Rumor has it that some of the names you mentioned are heading back to greyhound way. It seems the kids from that program who do have AA talent are sick of the weak schedule, the cheap talk, and the continued failure to win any big games, not to mention having to pay a tuition bill for all of it. Hopefully the East staff will give these transfering toppers a fair look at next falls try out. <br><br>East has always been an excellent academic school. Marshall is also excellent academically. However anypne that knows hockey would not dare to compare the two programs. It would be like comparing the Golden Gophers to the Scholastica Saints. Sorry for the reality dose..<br> <p></p><i></i>

[hckyfan44]

I don't know how you can debate that East Vs. Marshall would not be an exciting game to see. I have heard rumors that many of the top east bantams are heading to marshall also. But the problem with rumors is they are just that, rumors and rarely provide useful information. The last time East played Marshall they won 6-3, which must have been to close for comfort as East dropped them the next year. That same year Hermantown beat East 2-0 and East dropped them as well. That does not seem right to me. Why not drop a team when you are beating them by 10 or more goals (as East would do to Marshall). Dropping teams who are becoming competitive with you does not seem right. Fans deserve to see the most competitive games, and players deserve to play the toughest competion, and games should not be cut because of politics or the negative reprocusions of one team losing to another. Also, the gaps in AA and A hockey have narrowed if not been eliminated in recent years. Teams such as Breck, Benilde, and Blake, like them or not, prove that they can play with anyone throughout the season. Finally, if you really want to get into detail, had East still played in the LSC this year they would not have won the confrence. They lost to Superior and Cloquet, both teams that Marshall beat this season, which would mean even if they did beat Marshall the best they could do is a share of the title with the Toppers. <p></p><i></i>

[LSandA]

You still don't get it...<br><br>East would not waste their time or a game on the schedule by playing Marshall. East year in and year out is one of the top AA teams in the state. This past year was no exception. East competed against the toughest schedule in the state and posted a very impressive 24-9-1 record, winning 7AA and coming within 2 goals of the state final. The players and coaches deserve the credit for winning the pressure games and having one heck of a year. There are many AA and A programs in the state that would love a shot at East. Unfortunatly for the Marshall program, they are way down on the list.<br><br>Marshall supporters like yourself continue to talk like Marshall hockey has some merit. The facts are Marshall could not even get out of Section 2A, the weakest of all sections in the state of Minnesota. Again I will ask the question..If you were a good hockey player, why would you go to Marshall? They have a terrible schedule, have never won a big game, can't win the weakest section in the state, and their Stanley Cup game of the year is one game against the Cloquet Lumberjacks. On top of it all it will just cost your parents a mere $8500 a year to have the opportunity to play Hinkley-Mora-Two Harbors, Silver Bay, Hayward ect.<br><br>Marshall remains a good alternative for hockey players who cannot make the East team and whose parents can afford to pay for their kid to play high school sports. I can understand how Marshall backers would love a shot at East. However another 10 or so goal loss to the Greyhounds would do nobody any good. That is why they were taken off the schedule. There were just to many bad Marshall beatings over the years. I think they call it the mercy rule. However maybe the East JV may be interested in a tilt with the Marshall Varsity. They have had a tough time finding any good local competition.<br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[cyozzie36]

If Marshall wants to play East so bad then move up to Double AA and they will probably play twice. Thats really all it would take. They are a private school and East does not have much to gain by playing them. If they lose they have the potential of losing more players and teh emberassment. So, if people really want it move to Double AA where all private schools should be anyways. It also seems that no one remebers the 21-0 and 19-0 games where East wasn't even allowed to shoot in the thrid period. Yes it was a few years ago but man those games did nothing for East and it was easy to see why they got dropped from the schedule, and with the way scheduling works its tough to get back on a schedule.<br><br>Besides that East does a pretty awesome job of scheduling the best competive games. Their schedule is one of the best in the state every year. <p></p><i></i>

[wild77]

wow LSandA, nicely said. I really like the reference about the Marshall/Cloquet game. IMO, what really hurts Marshall is the simple fact there are not many supporters of Marshall hockey outside of Marshall. Many things have taken place involving the current Marshall regime/team/alumni and opposition coaches/players/fans. There is definitely a lack of respect for that program and all the chest thumping in the world will not change that. <p></p><i></i>

[hawksrock0304]

How did a huge discussion pertaining to Marshall end up in the 7AA next year thread? Seems to me like we're getting a little of track, but that's just me. <p></p><i></i>