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Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:20 am
by HockeyDad9
I started this thread becasue a discussion of the overtime games last night in District 6.<br><br>My understanding is that the teams go 5-5 in the 1st overtime; 4-4 in the 2nd; 3-3 in the 3rd; and so on and so forth. First am I right? Second, do you agree with that format? <br><br>I personally like a reply from "rabbittsr" on the other board, saying he prefers 4-4 for the overtime.<br><br>What does everyone think, not that we will be right or wrong, just for discusssion. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:25 am
by elliott70
The procdure you describe is the region procedure. Each district may adopt their own method.<br><br>D16 discussed it at length and decided to use it, because it was in the handbook (readily available).<br><br>The MN Hockey tournament committee and then the full board discussed it at length before adopting it. <br><br>It would be interesting to hear about how well it works.<br>Any stories to go along with other comments would be nice, also. (Do not mean to steal the thread - so ignore me if you wish.) <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:26 am
by rabbittsr
Like I replyed before, you have already played three periods of 5 on 5 and did not determine a winner, why not jump right into 4 on 4, and use 4 on 4 until the winner is determined. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:27 am
by livedreamhockey
In D6, you are right about the 5 on 5, than 4 on 4 and than 3 on 3 (each period being 5 minutes in length)...but you are wrong about the so on and so forth. After the end of the 3rd overtime, the WIN goes to the higher seed (no more hockey is played).<br><br>I think the format is fine but I would hate to see it come down to the higher seed getting the WIN in a game that has completed 3 OT periods. It probably doesn't happen often but it seems like there could be a better way to end it. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:29 am
by SLP Coach
Just heard that in D2, at least in the play-in games, if the game is tied at the end of regulation that the higher seed gets the win.<br>Not sure if this is all levels, but the person I heard from, their son play PWB2....either way .... In my opinion that is a bunch of BS. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:31 am
by rabbittsr
SLP Coach...I totally agree with you, let the kids play until a winner is decided, don't just give the higher seed the win. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:35 am
by hawkfan70
sound to me like ice-time is worth more than determining the real winner <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>this gives the higher seed an advantage towards the end of a game where they only need to play for a tie <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:42 am
by MN HOCKEY NUT
I HATE using shootouts to determine a winner, but I would rather see one than the win going to the higher seed. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:04 pm
by HockeyDad9
I would flip if I was a player, coach, or fan of a team that played their butts off for 3 regulation periods and 3 overtime periods only to be told that - YOU LOSE, because they are seeded higher. To me that makes absolutley NO sense. <br><br>Hockey is a game. The outcome is should be decided by those whom play the game. <br><br>In the Wisconsin Pee Wee State last year one team played 2 games of 5 overtimes. Each overtime was 8 minutes stop time. The players decided the outcome.<br> <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:16 pm
by Blade Side Down
NO Shootouts!<br>Play it out is a must! Especially when it this time of the year. <br>The kids played too hard and it would be SAD to be told you LOSS because you are the lower seed when it ended in a tie. That TEAM is basicly BEHIND at the start of the game because it was tie zero to zero before the game started. OUCH!<br>Some kids played in Wisconsin Tournament this year and the rule they had at the end of a game was the last five players on the ice where your shooters. Too corny!<br>But that's not District or Regionals! THIS IS! <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:34 pm
by MaroonGold4EVA
The only time I think a shootout would be good is for a region or state tournament game that does not have an affect on a team representing in the championship game (i.e.: losers bracket, consolation, 3rd place). What if you have a game go 6 OT's so the championship game is delayed that long? Play your two or three OT's, but then have a shootout to end it.<br><br>As for districts, at least they go 3 OT's before it goes to the high seed. Back in the 80s, you went 5 minutes, and then it went to the high seed after that. At least there is ample time for the lower seed to score a goal with 3 OT's. Unfair, perhaps.....but not as bad as it could be. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:49 pm
by MN HOCKEY NUT
It should never just go to the higher seed. It should be played out until there is a winner. I only said a shootout becasuse that is better than just giving the game to the higher seed. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:56 pm
by falkster09
There is no way that the game should go to the higher seed. If the lower seed does get it to three OTs, that means that they have played harder and better. <p>Falkster</p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:18 pm
by MN HOCKEY NUT
No, it means they played even. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:21 pm
by JOHNSONPREZ
It is play offs play until there is a winner, In our regular tournaments at Johnson we do it the old fashion way you "EARN IT". <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:38 pm
by joshdog
And what if the higher seeded team got the higher seed due to a bogus FPP game...............? 3 on 3 someone is going to score. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:21 pm
by nate7770
In district 11, the first OT is 10 min. If it is not decided, the teams resurface and then play a 4 on 4 5 min ot. After that i dont know. <p></p><i></i>

Re: Playoff Overtimes

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:20 pm
by hockeydad
I think it's ridiculous to give it to the higher seed. If that's the case, and we're in the final overtime playing 3 on 3 and I'm the higher seed, I can just sit back, not take any chances on offense and concentrate on defense. At least make it something that is determined on the ice, such as shots on goal or fewer penalty minutes. <br><br>I know in some invitational tournaments, after the second overtime they go to 3-on-3, no goalie. NOt sure I'd like to see that, but that's another possibility. <p></p><i></i>

D10

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:11 am
by quantummekanic
In championship games, D10 plays 5 on 5 until a winner is determined. The 2004 PW A game went 5 OT's (first game of the morning) Followed by two other OT games. The schedule at Anoka was running almost 3 hours behind by the end of the day. Good stuff. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

Overtime

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:06 am
by PlayMaker12
There is no way it should go to the higher seed. They should either play it out(the best option), or they should do a shootout(second best). But in no way should they ever just give the game to the highest seed. <p></p><i></i>