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BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:30 pm A lot of discussion in the Roseau to A thread:

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ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:08 pm Just some a few things as we get closer to 4/3 when the official section new assignments are out from MSHSL-

Rumor
Heard the Appeals Committee was much tougher on appeals down this year they really looked at the recent success of programs as schools have voiced displeasure with some of the larger school co-opts coming down and having big success.

With that in mind the big one of late that has picked up steam hearing from more and more is that Minneapolis was denied their appeal this year because of their recent program success and they will have to stay in 6AA. (Not sure on truth)

Another one is that St Paul Highland was allowed to move down due to lack of program success (Not sure on truth)

Heard other schools been sent that appealed like St Cloud & Tartan to name a few not sure how true that is and what they found out

Hearing Alexandria will be in 8AA but that has not been confirmed

Facts
The move ups had to be in declared back on 1/24 so the line was set at 1188 (St Louis Park in last one in AA) the appeals down wont change that line ... Meaning lets say they approved the appeal down of Tartan example they wont change the attendance line then make the next biggest school Hastings at 1177 move up... The line is set made that line knowing all the schools who opted already back in the January. Hastings will be Class A next year regardless if they let some schools appeal down or not.

Blake, Sartell & Hastings will be Class A this has been confirmed by teams

Roseau will stay AA

All teams that appealed down have now been notified if they were accepted or not by MSHSL

This is year #5 & 6 of the current 6 year cycle meaning they dont want to make much change they want to keep sections as close to as the same as possible but they will need to add teams to sections with less than 8 teams (They always want minimum of eight) so 1AA, 6AA & 4A will need to add teams and will need to place the new teams coming up to AA or down to A based on geography

With this all in mind here is "Guess" on what we could see on 4/3 ... Again this just looking at the Map and the dots (Still never know in the computer map and dont know all the appeal status for all schools, there is always a few surprises)

Class AA Guess
1AA (8 teams)
Farmington
Lakeville North
Lakeville South
New Prague High School
Owatonna High School
Rochester Century/John Marshall
Rochester Mayo
Prior Lake

2AA (8 teams)
Bloomington Jefferson
Chanhassen
Chaska
Eden Prairie
Holy Family
Minnetonka
Shakopee
Waconia

3AA (8 teams)
Apple Valley/Burnsville
Cretin-Derham Hall
Eagan High School
Eastview High School
Park Cottage Grove
Rosemount
St. Thomas Academy
Two Rivers High School

4AA (9 teams)
East Ridge
Gentry Academy
Hill-Murray
Mounds View
Roseville
Stillwater
Tartan
White Bear Lake
Woodbury

5AA (9 teams)
Blaine
Centennial
Champlin Park
Maple Grove
Osseo
Rogers
Spring Lake Park/Coon Rapids
Irondale-St. Anthony
Totino-Grace

6AA (8 teams)
Armstrong/Cooper
Benilde-St. Margaret's School
Edina
Hopkins
Holy Angels
Minneapolis
St. Louis Park
Wayzata

7AA (10 teams)
Andover
Anoka
Cambridge-Isanti
Duluth Denfeld
Duluth East
Duluth Marshall
Forest Lake
Grand Rapids
Rock Ridge
Northern Edge

8AA (9 teams)
Alexandria
Bemidji
Brainerd
Buffalo
Elk River/Zimmerman
Moorhead
Roseau
St. Cloud Public
St. Michael-Albertville

Class A Guess
1A (10 Teams)
Albert Lea
Austin
Dodge County
Faribault
La Crescent
Northfield
Red Wing
Rochester Lourdes
Waseca
Winona

2A (8 teams)
Blake
Breck
Delano
Hutchinson
Litchfield Dassel Cokato
Mound Westonka
Orono
Providence Academy

3A (10 teams)
Fairmont
Luverne
Mankato East
Mankato West
Marshall
Minnesota River
New Ulm
Redwood Valley
Windom
Worthington

4A (8 teams)
Chisago Lakes
Hastings
Mahtomedi
Simley
South St Paul
St Paul Academy
St Paul Highland Park
SW Christian/Richfield

5A (10 teams)
Becker Big Lake
Little Falls
Monticello
Mora
Princeton
Pine City
River Lakes
Sartell
Sauk Rapids
St Cloud Cathedral

6A (8 teams)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Morris Benson
Northern Lakes
Prairie Centre
Wadena Deer Creek
Willmar

7A (9 teams)
Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
Ely
Greenway
Hermantown
Hibbing
International Falls
North Shore
Moose Lake
Proctor

8A (9 teams)
Bagley Fosston
Crookston
East Grand Forks
Kittson County Central
Lake of the Woods
Park Rapids
Red Lake Falls
Thief River Falls
Warroad

Will be very interesting to see the real thing in 2 weeks!

SpreadOut! wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:11 pm

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:08 pm Just some a few things as we get closer to 4/3 when the official section new assignments are out from MSHSL-

Rumor
Heard the Appeals Committee was much tougher on appeals down this year they really looked at the recent success of programs as schools have voiced displeasure with some of the larger school co-opts coming down and having big success.

With that in mind the big one of late that has picked up steam hearing from more and more is that Minneapolis was denied their appeal this year because of their recent program success and they will have to stay in 6AA. (Not sure on truth)

Another one is that St Paul Highland was allowed to move down due to lack of program success (Not sure on truth)

Heard other schools been sent that appealed like St Cloud & Tartan to name a few not sure how true that is and what they found out

Hearing Alexandria will be in 8AA but that has not been confirmed

Facts
The move ups had to be in declared back on 1/24 so the line was set at 1188 (St Louis Park in last one in AA) the appeals down wont change that line ... Meaning lets say they approved the appeal down of Tartan example they wont change the attendance line then make the next biggest school Hastings at 1177 move up... The line is set made that line knowing all the schools who opted already back in the January. Hastings will be Class A next year regardless if they let some schools appeal down or not.

Blake, Sartell & Hastings will be Class A this has been confirmed by teams

Roseau will stay AA

All teams that appealed down have now been notified if they were accepted or not by MSHSL

This is year #5 & 6 of the current 6 year cycle meaning they dont want to make much change they want to keep sections as close to as the same as possible but they will need to add teams to sections with less than 8 teams (They always want minimum of eight) so 1AA, 6AA & 4A will need to add teams and will need to place the new teams coming up to AA or down to A based on geography

With this all in mind here is "Guess" on what we could see on 4/3 ... Again this just looking at the Map and the dots (Still never know in the computer map and dont know all the appeal status for all schools, there is always a few surprises)

Class AA Guess
1AA (8 teams)
Farmington
Lakeville North
Lakeville South
New Prague High School
Owatonna High School
Rochester Century/John Marshall
Rochester Mayo
Prior Lake

2AA (8 teams)
Bloomington Jefferson
Chanhassen
Chaska
Eden Prairie
Holy Family
Minnetonka
Shakopee
Waconia

3AA (8 teams)
Apple Valley/Burnsville
Cretin-Derham Hall
Eagan High School
Eastview High School
Park Cottage Grove
Rosemount
St. Thomas Academy
Two Rivers High School

4AA (9 teams)
East Ridge
Gentry Academy
Hill-Murray
Mounds View
Roseville
Stillwater
Tartan
White Bear Lake
Woodbury

5AA (9 teams)
Blaine
Centennial
Champlin Park
Maple Grove
Osseo
Rogers
Spring Lake Park/Coon Rapids
Irondale-St. Anthony
Totino-Grace

6AA (8 teams)
Armstrong/Cooper
Benilde-St. Margaret's School
Edina
Hopkins
Holy Angels
Minneapolis
St. Louis Park
Wayzata

7AA (10 teams)
Andover
Anoka
Cambridge-Isanti
Duluth Denfeld
Duluth East
Duluth Marshall
Forest Lake
Grand Rapids
Rock Ridge
Northern Edge

8AA (9 teams)
Alexandria
Bemidji
Brainerd
Buffalo
Elk River/Zimmerman
Moorhead
Roseau
St. Cloud Public
St. Michael-Albertville

Class A Guess
1A (10 Teams)
Albert Lea
Austin
Dodge County
Faribault
La Crescent
Northfield
Red Wing
Rochester Lourdes
Waseca
Winona

2A (8 teams)
Blake
Breck
Delano
Hutchinson
Litchfield Dassel Cokato
Mound Westonka
Orono
Providence Academy

3A (10 teams)
Fairmont
Luverne
Mankato East
Mankato West
Marshall
Minnesota River
New Ulm
Redwood Valley
Windom
Worthington

4A (8 teams)
Chisago Lakes
Hastings
Mahtomedi
Simley
South St Paul
St Paul Academy
St Paul Highland Park
SW Christian/Richfield

5A (10 teams)
Becker Big Lake
Little Falls
Monticello
Mora
Princeton
Pine City
River Lakes
Sartell
Sauk Rapids
St Cloud Cathedral

6A (8 teams)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Morris Benson
Northern Lakes
Prairie Centre
Wadena Deer Creek
Willmar

7A (9 teams)
Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
Ely
Greenway
Hermantown
Hibbing
International Falls
North Shore
Moose Lake
Proctor

8A (9 teams)
Bagley Fosston
Crookston
East Grand Forks
Kittson County Central
Lake of the Woods
Park Rapids
Red Lake Falls
Thief River Falls
Warroad

Will be very interesting to see the real thing in 2 weeks!

Tartan doesn’t even field A teams at youth level anymore (they play as “East Metro,” a co-op of Tartan, North St. Paul, Johnson and Como), let alone AA teams. B1 is there highest level at bantams, peewees and squirts. And they are only solid at B1, by no means very good. MSHSL gonna deny Tartan going down to A, but allow new St. Paul co-op to play A? Come on? The demographics of Highland Park High School alone (just one of the high schools of the new St. Paul co-op) are more hockey friendly than the demographics of Tartan and North St. Paul High Schools (the high school co-op for Tartan).

And Minneapolis NEVER should have been allowed to play Class A. The demographics at Minneapolis Southwest High School (where most of the Minneapolis co-op players go to school) are WAY more hockey-friendly than countless schools playing Class AA now.

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:18 pm

SpreadOut! wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:11 pm

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:08 pm Just some a few things as we get closer to 4/3 when the official section new assignments are out from MSHSL-

Rumor
Heard the Appeals Committee was much tougher on appeals down this year they really looked at the recent success of programs as schools have voiced displeasure with some of the larger school co-opts coming down and having big success.

With that in mind the big one of late that has picked up steam hearing from more and more is that Minneapolis was denied their appeal this year because of their recent program success and they will have to stay in 6AA. (Not sure on truth)

Another one is that St Paul Highland was allowed to move down due to lack of program success (Not sure on truth)

Heard other schools been sent that appealed like St Cloud & Tartan to name a few not sure how true that is and what they found out

Hearing Alexandria will be in 8AA but that has not been confirmed

Facts
The move ups had to be in declared back on 1/24 so the line was set at 1188 (St Louis Park in last one in AA) the appeals down wont change that line ... Meaning lets say they approved the appeal down of Tartan example they wont change the attendance line then make the next biggest school Hastings at 1177 move up... The line is set made that line knowing all the schools who opted already back in the January. Hastings will be Class A next year regardless if they let some schools appeal down or not.

Blake, Sartell & Hastings will be Class A this has been confirmed by teams

Roseau will stay AA

All teams that appealed down have now been notified if they were accepted or not by MSHSL

This is year #5 & 6 of the current 6 year cycle meaning they dont want to make much change they want to keep sections as close to as the same as possible but they will need to add teams to sections with less than 8 teams (They always want minimum of eight) so 1AA, 6AA & 4A will need to add teams and will need to place the new teams coming up to AA or down to A based on geography

With this all in mind here is "Guess" on what we could see on 4/3 ... Again this just looking at the Map and the dots (Still never know in the computer map and dont know all the appeal status for all schools, there is always a few surprises)

Class AA Guess
1AA (8 teams)
Farmington
Lakeville North
Lakeville South
New Prague High School
Owatonna High School
Rochester Century/John Marshall
Rochester Mayo
Prior Lake

2AA (8 teams)
Bloomington Jefferson
Chanhassen
Chaska
Eden Prairie
Holy Family
Minnetonka
Shakopee
Waconia

3AA (8 teams)
Apple Valley/Burnsville
Cretin-Derham Hall
Eagan High School
Eastview High School
Park Cottage Grove
Rosemount
St. Thomas Academy
Two Rivers High School

4AA (9 teams)
East Ridge
Gentry Academy
Hill-Murray
Mounds View
Roseville
Stillwater
Tartan
White Bear Lake
Woodbury

5AA (9 teams)
Blaine
Centennial
Champlin Park
Maple Grove
Osseo
Rogers
Spring Lake Park/Coon Rapids
Irondale-St. Anthony
Totino-Grace

6AA (8 teams)
Armstrong/Cooper
Benilde-St. Margaret's School
Edina
Hopkins
Holy Angels
Minneapolis
St. Louis Park
Wayzata

7AA (10 teams)
Andover
Anoka
Cambridge-Isanti
Duluth Denfeld
Duluth East
Duluth Marshall
Forest Lake
Grand Rapids
Rock Ridge
Northern Edge

8AA (9 teams)
Alexandria
Bemidji
Brainerd
Buffalo
Elk River/Zimmerman
Moorhead
Roseau
St. Cloud Public
St. Michael-Albertville

Class A Guess
1A (10 Teams)
Albert Lea
Austin
Dodge County
Faribault
La Crescent
Northfield
Red Wing
Rochester Lourdes
Waseca
Winona

2A (8 teams)
Blake
Breck
Delano
Hutchinson
Litchfield Dassel Cokato
Mound Westonka
Orono
Providence Academy

3A (10 teams)
Fairmont
Luverne
Mankato East
Mankato West
Marshall
Minnesota River
New Ulm
Redwood Valley
Windom
Worthington

4A (8 teams)
Chisago Lakes
Hastings
Mahtomedi
Simley
South St Paul
St Paul Academy
St Paul Highland Park
SW Christian/Richfield

5A (10 teams)
Becker Big Lake
Little Falls
Monticello
Mora
Princeton
Pine City
River Lakes
Sartell
Sauk Rapids
St Cloud Cathedral

6A (8 teams)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Morris Benson
Northern Lakes
Prairie Centre
Wadena Deer Creek
Willmar

7A (9 teams)
Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
Ely
Greenway
Hermantown
Hibbing
International Falls
North Shore
Moose Lake
Proctor

8A (9 teams)
Bagley Fosston
Crookston
East Grand Forks
Kittson County Central
Lake of the Woods
Park Rapids
Red Lake Falls
Thief River Falls
Warroad

Will be very interesting to see the real thing in 2 weeks!

Tartan doesn’t even field A teams at youth level anymore (they play as “East Metro,” a co-op of Tartan, North St. Paul, Johnson and Como), let alone AA teams. B1 is there highest level at bantams, peewees and squirts. And they are only solid at B1, by no means very good. MSHSL gonna deny Tartan going down to A, but allow new St. Paul co-op to play A? Come on? The demographics of Highland Park High School alone (just one of the high schools of the new St. Paul co-op) are more hockey friendly than the demographics of Tartan and North St. Paul High Schools (the high school co-op for Tartan).

And Minneapolis NEVER should have been allowed to play Class A. The demographics at Minneapolis Southwest High School (where most of the Minneapolis co-op players go to school) are WAY more hockey-friendly than countless schools playing Class AA now.

Agree if there is truth to Tartan appealing down I hope the get approved. No idea how truthful that is but you could flip St Paul into 4AA and Tartan into 4A and the above would look good.

Hearing more and more MPLS got denied but wont believe until I see it. The above was just stab at it!

Good points raised as always!

SpreadOut! wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:11 pm

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:08 pm Just some a few things as we get closer to 4/3 when the official section new assignments are out from MSHSL-

Rumor
Heard the Appeals Committee was much tougher on appeals down this year they really looked at the recent success of programs as schools have voiced displeasure with some of the larger school co-opts coming down and having big success.

With that in mind the big one of late that has picked up steam hearing from more and more is that Minneapolis was denied their appeal this year because of their recent program success and they will have to stay in 6AA. (Not sure on truth)

Another one is that St Paul Highland was allowed to move down due to lack of program success (Not sure on truth)

Heard other schools been sent that appealed like St Cloud & Tartan to name a few not sure how true that is and what they found out

Hearing Alexandria will be in 8AA but that has not been confirmed

Facts
The move ups had to be in declared back on 1/24 so the line was set at 1188 (St Louis Park in last one in AA) the appeals down wont change that line ... Meaning lets say they approved the appeal down of Tartan example they wont change the attendance line then make the next biggest school Hastings at 1177 move up... The line is set made that line knowing all the schools who opted already back in the January. Hastings will be Class A next year regardless if they let some schools appeal down or not.

Blake, Sartell & Hastings will be Class A this has been confirmed by teams

Roseau will stay AA

All teams that appealed down have now been notified if they were accepted or not by MSHSL

This is year #5 & 6 of the current 6 year cycle meaning they dont want to make much change they want to keep sections as close to as the same as possible but they will need to add teams to sections with less than 8 teams (They always want minimum of eight) so 1AA, 6AA & 4A will need to add teams and will need to place the new teams coming up to AA or down to A based on geography

With this all in mind here is "Guess" on what we could see on 4/3 ... Again this just looking at the Map and the dots (Still never know in the computer map and dont know all the appeal status for all schools, there is always a few surprises)

Class AA Guess
1AA (8 teams)
Farmington
Lakeville North
Lakeville South
New Prague High School
Owatonna High School
Rochester Century/John Marshall
Rochester Mayo
Prior Lake

2AA (8 teams)
Bloomington Jefferson
Chanhassen
Chaska
Eden Prairie
Holy Family
Minnetonka
Shakopee
Waconia

3AA (8 teams)
Apple Valley/Burnsville
Cretin-Derham Hall
Eagan High School
Eastview High School
Park Cottage Grove
Rosemount
St. Thomas Academy
Two Rivers High School

4AA (9 teams)
East Ridge
Gentry Academy
Hill-Murray
Mounds View
Roseville
Stillwater
Tartan
White Bear Lake
Woodbury

5AA (9 teams)
Blaine
Centennial
Champlin Park
Maple Grove
Osseo
Rogers
Spring Lake Park/Coon Rapids
Irondale-St. Anthony
Totino-Grace

6AA (8 teams)
Armstrong/Cooper
Benilde-St. Margaret's School
Edina
Hopkins
Holy Angels
Minneapolis
St. Louis Park
Wayzata

7AA (10 teams)
Andover
Anoka
Cambridge-Isanti
Duluth Denfeld
Duluth East
Duluth Marshall
Forest Lake
Grand Rapids
Rock Ridge
Northern Edge

8AA (9 teams)
Alexandria
Bemidji
Brainerd
Buffalo
Elk River/Zimmerman
Moorhead
Roseau
St. Cloud Public
St. Michael-Albertville

Class A Guess
1A (10 Teams)
Albert Lea
Austin
Dodge County
Faribault
La Crescent
Northfield
Red Wing
Rochester Lourdes
Waseca
Winona

2A (8 teams)
Blake
Breck
Delano
Hutchinson
Litchfield Dassel Cokato
Mound Westonka
Orono
Providence Academy

3A (10 teams)
Fairmont
Luverne
Mankato East
Mankato West
Marshall
Minnesota River
New Ulm
Redwood Valley
Windom
Worthington

4A (8 teams)
Chisago Lakes
Hastings
Mahtomedi
Simley
South St Paul
St Paul Academy
St Paul Highland Park
SW Christian/Richfield

5A (10 teams)
Becker Big Lake
Little Falls
Monticello
Mora
Princeton
Pine City
River Lakes
Sartell
Sauk Rapids
St Cloud Cathedral

6A (8 teams)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Morris Benson
Northern Lakes
Prairie Centre
Wadena Deer Creek
Willmar

7A (9 teams)
Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
Ely
Greenway
Hermantown
Hibbing
International Falls
North Shore
Moose Lake
Proctor

8A (9 teams)
Bagley Fosston
Crookston
East Grand Forks
Kittson County Central
Lake of the Woods
Park Rapids
Red Lake Falls
Thief River Falls
Warroad

Will be very interesting to see the real thing in 2 weeks!

Tartan doesn’t even field A teams at youth level anymore (they play as “East Metro,” a co-op of Tartan, North St. Paul, Johnson and Como), let alone AA teams. B1 is there highest level at bantams, peewees and squirts. And they are only solid at B1, by no means very good. MSHSL gonna deny Tartan going down to A, but allow new St. Paul co-op to play A? Come on? The demographics of Highland Park High School alone (just one of the high schools of the new St. Paul co-op) are more hockey friendly than the demographics of Tartan and North St. Paul High Schools (the high school co-op for Tartan).

And Minneapolis NEVER should have been allowed to play Class A. The demographics at Minneapolis Southwest High School (where most of the Minneapolis co-op players go to school) are WAY more hockey-friendly than countless schools playing Class AA now.

East Side Pioneer Guy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 5:52 am

SpreadOut! wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:11 pm

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:08 pm Just some a few things as we get closer to 4/3 when the official section new assignments are out from MSHSL-

Rumor
Heard the Appeals Committee was much tougher on appeals down this year they really looked at the recent success of programs as schools have voiced displeasure with some of the larger school co-opts coming down and having big success.

With that in mind the big one of late that has picked up steam hearing from more and more is that Minneapolis was denied their appeal this year because of their recent program success and they will have to stay in 6AA. (Not sure on truth)

Another one is that St Paul Highland was allowed to move down due to lack of program success (Not sure on truth)

Heard other schools been sent that appealed like St Cloud & Tartan to name a few not sure how true that is and what they found out

Hearing Alexandria will be in 8AA but that has not been confirmed

Facts
The move ups had to be in declared back on 1/24 so the line was set at 1188 (St Louis Park in last one in AA) the appeals down wont change that line ... Meaning lets say they approved the appeal down of Tartan example they wont change the attendance line then make the next biggest school Hastings at 1177 move up... The line is set made that line knowing all the schools who opted already back in the January. Hastings will be Class A next year regardless if they let some schools appeal down or not.

Blake, Sartell & Hastings will be Class A this has been confirmed by teams

Roseau will stay AA

All teams that appealed down have now been notified if they were accepted or not by MSHSL

This is year #5 & 6 of the current 6 year cycle meaning they dont want to make much change they want to keep sections as close to as the same as possible but they will need to add teams to sections with less than 8 teams (They always want minimum of eight) so 1AA, 6AA & 4A will need to add teams and will need to place the new teams coming up to AA or down to A based on geography

With this all in mind here is "Guess" on what we could see on 4/3 ... Again this just looking at the Map and the dots (Still never know in the computer map and dont know all the appeal status for all schools, there is always a few surprises)

Class AA Guess
1AA (8 teams)
Farmington
Lakeville North
Lakeville South
New Prague High School
Owatonna High School
Rochester Century/John Marshall
Rochester Mayo
Prior Lake

2AA (8 teams)
Bloomington Jefferson
Chanhassen
Chaska
Eden Prairie
Holy Family
Minnetonka
Shakopee
Waconia

3AA (8 teams)
Apple Valley/Burnsville
Cretin-Derham Hall
Eagan High School
Eastview High School
Park Cottage Grove
Rosemount
St. Thomas Academy
Two Rivers High School

4AA (9 teams)
East Ridge
Gentry Academy
Hill-Murray
Mounds View
Roseville
Stillwater
Tartan
White Bear Lake
Woodbury

5AA (9 teams)
Blaine
Centennial
Champlin Park
Maple Grove
Osseo
Rogers
Spring Lake Park/Coon Rapids
Irondale-St. Anthony
Totino-Grace

6AA (8 teams)
Armstrong/Cooper
Benilde-St. Margaret's School
Edina
Hopkins
Holy Angels
Minneapolis
St. Louis Park
Wayzata

7AA (10 teams)
Andover
Anoka
Cambridge-Isanti
Duluth Denfeld
Duluth East
Duluth Marshall
Forest Lake
Grand Rapids
Rock Ridge
Northern Edge

8AA (9 teams)
Alexandria
Bemidji
Brainerd
Buffalo
Elk River/Zimmerman
Moorhead
Roseau
St. Cloud Public
St. Michael-Albertville

Class A Guess
1A (10 Teams)
Albert Lea
Austin
Dodge County
Faribault
La Crescent
Northfield
Red Wing
Rochester Lourdes
Waseca
Winona

2A (8 teams)
Blake
Breck
Delano
Hutchinson
Litchfield Dassel Cokato
Mound Westonka
Orono
Providence Academy

3A (10 teams)
Fairmont
Luverne
Mankato East
Mankato West
Marshall
Minnesota River
New Ulm
Redwood Valley
Windom
Worthington

4A (8 teams)
Chisago Lakes
Hastings
Mahtomedi
Simley
South St Paul
St Paul Academy
St Paul Highland Park
SW Christian/Richfield

5A (10 teams)
Becker Big Lake
Little Falls
Monticello
Mora
Princeton
Pine City
River Lakes
Sartell
Sauk Rapids
St Cloud Cathedral

6A (8 teams)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Morris Benson
Northern Lakes
Prairie Centre
Wadena Deer Creek
Willmar

7A (9 teams)
Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
Ely
Greenway
Hermantown
Hibbing
International Falls
North Shore
Moose Lake
Proctor

8A (9 teams)
Bagley Fosston
Crookston
East Grand Forks
Kittson County Central
Lake of the Woods
Park Rapids
Red Lake Falls
Thief River Falls
Warroad

Will be very interesting to see the real thing in 2 weeks!

Tartan doesn’t even field A teams at youth level anymore (they play as “East Metro,” a co-op of Tartan, North St. Paul, Johnson and Como), let alone AA teams. B1 is there highest level at bantams, peewees and squirts. And they are only solid at B1, by no means very good. MSHSL gonna deny Tartan going down to A, but allow new St. Paul co-op to play A? Come on? The demographics of Highland Park High School alone (just one of the high schools of the new St. Paul co-op) are more hockey friendly than the demographics of Tartan and North St. Paul High Schools (the high school co-op for Tartan).

And Minneapolis NEVER should have been allowed to play Class A. The demographics at Minneapolis Southwest High School (where most of the Minneapolis co-op players go to school) are WAY more hockey-friendly than countless schools playing Class AA now.

When you mention the demographics of Highland, MPLS/Southwest, and Tartan, have you looked at hard data? Or are you just going by vibes? Because things we just know to be true often are not true.

My initial thought on this is that I would have a bias that any co-op should be in class A if they want to be. But that may be too simplistic for a hard and fast rule.

What would be the most successful co-op in hockey for the past ten years? Anyone have an idea? I may not be talking about a co-op where one school can easily stand alone, and they co-op with another school where that school has no chance to field a team, and they only contribute a couple/three kids. That's more of a charity situation. I think of a true co-op as a situation where none of the schools involved could field a team by themselves. If Mahtomedi co-ops with Church of The Zion Academy For the Lefthanded, that's not really much of a co-op.

But at then end of the day, I really have little concern about this.

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 9:57 am And BOOM... Make one guess post and get some good information with a loaded inbox on X this morning.

Here is some updates
MPLS was NOT DENIED they will be back in Class A. Source who reached is tied to the program and they had the confirmation from the MSHSL they were not denied.

Was told by another source they heard St Paul was allowed down to Class A under the MPLS rule but they didnt have the confirmation.

Also been told Osseo was approved to go to Class A (Which looking at the map should put them in 2A and bump MPLS to 4A)

That shakes up the map in AA because someone has to fill the spot of 6AA left by Blake and someone needs to fill the spot in 1AA left when Northfield was able to drop the co-opt two years ago to get back in Class A after the map was made.

To fill gaps again i dont follow AA but this was rumor no one knows until the maps is done on 4/3 but below it what was sent.
Rosemount to 1AA
Holy Angels to 3AA
Anoka to 5AA
Bloomington Jefferson & Totino Grace to 6AA

Again all speculation but with MPLS still in Class A there will be more movement in AA below is an update GUESS

Update Class AA Guess
1AA (8 teams)
Farmington
Lakeville North
Lakeville South
New Prague High School
Owatonna High School
Rochester Century/John Marshall
Rochester Mayo
Rosemount

2AA (8 teams)
Chanhassen
Chaska
Eden Prairie
Holy Family
Minnetonka
Shakopee
Prior Lake
Waconia

3AA (8 teams)
Apple Valley/Burnsville
Cretin-Derham Hall
Eagan High School
Eastview High School
Holy Angels
Park Cottage Grove
St. Thomas Academy
Two Rivers High School

4AA (9 teams)
East Ridge
Gentry Academy
Hill-Murray
Mounds View
Roseville
Stillwater
Tartan
White Bear Lake
Woodbury

5AA (8 teams)
Anoka
Blaine
Centennial
Champlin Park
Maple Grove
Rogers
Spring Lake Park/Coon Rapids
Irondale-St. Anthony

6AA (8 teams)
Armstrong/Cooper
Benilde-St. Margaret's School
Bloomington Jefferson
Edina
Hopkins
St. Louis Park
Totino Grace
Wayzata

7AA (9 teams)
Andover
Cambridge-Isanti
Duluth Denfeld
Duluth East
Duluth Marshall
Forest Lake
Grand Rapids
Rock Ridge
Northern Edge

8AA (9 teams)
Alexandria
Bemidji
Brainerd
Buffalo
Elk River/Zimmerman
Moorhead
Roseau
St. Cloud Public
St. Michael-Albertville

Updated Class A Guess
1A (10 Teams)
Albert Lea
Austin
Dodge County
Faribault
La Crescent
Northfield
Red Wing
Rochester Lourdes
Waseca
Winona

2A (9 teams)
Blake
Breck
Delano
Hutchinson
Litchfield Dassel Cokato
Mound Westonka
Orono
Osseo
Providence Academy

3A (10 teams)
Fairmont
Luverne
Mankato East
Mankato West
Marshall
Minnesota River
New Ulm
Redwood Valley
Windom
Worthington

4A (9 teams)
Chisago Lakes
Hastings
Mahtomedi
Minneapolis
Simley
South St Paul
St Paul Academy
St Paul Highland Park
SW Christian/Richfield

5A (10 teams)
Becker Big Lake
Little Falls
Monticello
Mora
Princeton
Pine City
River Lakes
Sartell
Sauk Rapids
St Cloud Cathedral

6A (8 teams)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Morris Benson
Northern Lakes
Prairie Centre
Wadena Deer Creek
Willmar

7A (9 teams)
Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
Ely
Greenway
Hermantown
Hibbing
International Falls
North Shore
Moose Lake
Proctor

8A (9 teams)
Bagley Fosston
Crookston
East Grand Forks
Kittson County Central
Lake of the Woods
Park Rapids
Red Lake Falls
Thief River Falls
Warroad

BP wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:27 pm Waconia and St. Louis Park now A - going to be a ton of movement in sections in both classes.

BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:23 pm I guess Alexandria should have filed an appeal.....

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:26 pm

BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:23 pm I guess Alexandria should have filed an appeal.....

Crazy times

So far been told
New Prague & Armstong/Cooper Got Denied stay in AA

MPLS, St Paul Highland Park, Osseo, Waconia, St Louis Park got Approved will be in A

Digging into Tartan, St Cloud, Two Rivers there maybe others?

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:02 pm Update

Tartan Approved for A

St Cloud Denied staying AA and Two Rivers will be AA not sure on if they appealed

rainier2 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 5:26 pm I think it's weird that since the MSHSL got into the business of deciding who "belongs" in A or AA, why it doesn't go both ways? If a program is too economically disadvantaged and unsuccessful to be in AA, then why can't they decide an A program is too economically advantaged and successful to stay in A?

ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 22, 2025 12:08 am With the news of all the A appeals allowed it leaves AA with only 64 teams (8 teams per section)
1AA (8 teams)
Farmington
Lakeville North
Lakeville South
New Prague High School
Owatonna High School
Rochester Century/John Marshall
Rochester Mayo
Rosemount

2AA (8 teams)
Chanhassen
Chaska
Eden Prairie
Holy Family
Minnetonka
Shakopee
Prior Lake
Waconia

3AA (8 teams)
Apple Valley/Burnsville
Cretin-Derham Hall
Eagan High School
Eastview High School
Holy Angels
Park Cottage Grove
St. Thomas Academy
Two Rivers High School

4AA (8 teams)
East Ridge
Gentry Academy
Hill-Murray
Mounds View
Roseville
Stillwater
White Bear Lake
Woodbury

5AA (8 teams)
Andover
Anoka
Blaine
Centennial
Champlin Park
Maple Grove
Rogers
Spring Lake Park/Coon Rapids

6AA (8 teams)
Armstrong/Cooper
Benilde-St. Margaret's School
Bloomington Jefferson
Buffalo
Edina
Hopkins
Totino Grace
Wayzata

7AA (8 teams)
Cambridge-Isanti
Duluth Denfeld
Duluth East
Duluth Marshall
Forest Lake
Grand Rapids
Rock Ridge
Northern Edge

8AA (8 teams)
Alexandria
Bemidji
Brainerd
Elk River/Zimmerman
Moorhead
Roseau
St. Cloud Public
St. Michael-Albertville

Class A now has 78 teams here is stab at that (MPLS, Highland Park, St Louis Park, Tartan, Waconia, Osseo & Irondale all approved down)
1A (10 Teams)
Albert Lea
Austin
Dodge County
Faribault
La Crescent
Northfield
Red Wing
Rochester Lourdes
Waseca
Winona

2A (10 teams)
Blake
Breck
Delano
Hutchinson
Litchfield Dassel Cokato
Minneapolis
Mound Westonka
Orono
St Louis Park
Waconia

3A (10 teams)
Fairmont
Luverne
Mankato East
Mankato West
Marshall
Minnesota River
New Ulm
Redwood Valley
Windom
Worthington

4A (10 teams)
Chisago Lakes
Hastings
Irondale
Mahtomedi
Simley
South St Paul
St Paul Academy
St Paul Highland Park
SW Christian/Richfield
Tartan

5A (10 teams)
Becker Big Lake
Monticello
Mora
Osseo
Princeton
Providence Academy
Pine City
Sartell
Sauk Rapids
St Cloud Cathedral

6A (9 teams)
Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Fergus Falls
Little Falls
Morris Benson
Northern Lakes
Prairie Centre
River Lakes
Wadena Deer Creek
Willmar

7A (9 teams)
Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
Ely
Greenway
Hermantown
Hibbing
International Falls
North Shore
Moose Lake
Proctor

8A (10 teams)
Bagley Fosston
Crookston
Detroit Lakes
East Grand Forks
Kittson County Central
Lake of the Woods
Park Rapids
Red Lake Falls
Thief River Falls
Warroad