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kniven wrote:https://youtu.be/5wU9nskeHHU

These boys are sophomores and juniors this winter.

Upfan111 wrote:

kniven wrote:https://youtu.be/5wU9nskeHHU

These boys are sophomores and juniors this winter.

No. One. Cares.

Corn Cobb wrote:Really. Getting. Old.

Upfan111 wrote:

kniven wrote:https://youtu.be/5wU9nskeHHU

These boys are sophomores and juniors this winter.

No. One. Cares.

housegoat32 wrote:When you have to openly recruit Pee Wee players from Moose Lake to compete at the pee wee level, that's the telling story of the Cloquet program..........

housegoat32 wrote:When you have to openly recruit Pee Wee players from Moose Lake to compete at the pee wee level, that's the telling story of the Cloquet program..........

Jeffy95 wrote:

housegoat32 wrote:When you have to openly recruit Pee Wee players from Moose Lake to compete at the pee wee level, that's the telling story of the Cloquet program..........

There is zero chance that kid was staying in Moose Lake. Only question was if Hermantown or Cloquet would get him. He probably wasn't going to crack the top team in Hermantown so the choice was easy. Hermantown is already so loaded with open-enrollees and transfers at the PeeWee level that they will have 5 teams this year. That's unheard of in this area and more than any program in 7AA even, including all of the huge metro programs. Their AA team will win State this year and should go undefeated. We're probably going to see some bubble kids that have no choice but to transfer back home from there at some point.

kniven wrote:

Jeffy95 wrote:

housegoat32 wrote:When you have to openly recruit Pee Wee players from Moose Lake to compete at the pee wee level, that's the telling story of the Cloquet program..........

There is zero chance that kid was staying in Moose Lake. Only question was if Hermantown or Cloquet would get him. He probably wasn't going to crack the top team in Hermantown so the choice was easy. Hermantown is already so loaded with open-enrollees and transfers at the PeeWee level that they will have 5 teams this year. That's unheard of in this area and more than any program in 7AA even, including all of the huge metro programs. Their AA team will win State this year and should go undefeated. We're probably going to see some bubble kids that have no choice but to transfer back home from there at some point.

Langenbrunner’s live in Moose Lake so the younger Langenbrunner is probably a friend of his in town.

Interesting. Hawks peewee aa team last year. i didn't get a chance to see them play. I haven't heard of a Moose Lake kid in the ranks. He will be a peewee or bantam this year? thanks

Jeffy95 wrote:Hermantown is already so loaded with open-enrollees and transfers at the PeeWee level that they will have 5 teams this year. That's unheard of in this area and more than any program in 7AA even, including all of the huge metro programs.

blueline_6 wrote:

Jeffy95 wrote:Hermantown is already so loaded with open-enrollees and transfers at the PeeWee level that they will have 5 teams this year. That's unheard of in this area and more than any program in 7AA even, including all of the huge metro programs.

Who are the "huge metro programs" in 7AA? I can only assume you are referring to Andover and Elk River, neither of which I would call "huge metro programs". They are bigger than other 7AA programs yes, but hardly "huge".

Jeffy95 wrote:

blueline_6 wrote:

Jeffy95 wrote:Hermantown is already so loaded with open-enrollees and transfers at the PeeWee level that they will have 5 teams this year. That's unheard of in this area and more than any program in 7AA even, including all of the huge metro programs.

Who are the "huge metro programs" in 7AA? I can only assume you are referring to Andover and Elk River, neither of which I would call "huge metro programs". They are bigger than other 7AA programs yes, but hardly "huge".

Yes, more of a comparison to the other 7AA programs and how the game has changed. Because of Player Movement, Hermantown's program is now larger than all 7AA Programs.

MWS coach wrote:

Jeffy95 wrote:

blueline_6 wrote: Who are the "huge metro programs" in 7AA? I can only assume you are referring to Andover and Elk River, neither of which I would call "huge metro programs". They are bigger than other 7AA programs yes, but hardly "huge".

Yes, more of a comparison to the other 7AA programs and how the game has changed. Because of Player Movement, Hermantown's program is now larger than all 7AA Programs.

No doubt HT has had a lot of player movement and you just can't help yourself to call that out every opportunity you get, but 5 PW teams is not larger than any 7AA program, ER will likely have 5 this year as well and will have 6 squirt teams. My assumption is Andover will have about the same number of teams if not more. At least get your facts correct when you bash HT.....

blueline_6 wrote:

alcloseshaver wrote:

kniven wrote: I was thinking of their numbers compared to the other 7AA hockey programs.

knivvy or MWS could you put up the youth numbers for the 7AA? Not sure if I have seen them to compare. Thanks

This is what I could find off the interwebs, either on association sites or district sites. This is the number of teams each youth association had last year at the Bantam and Peewee levels. So it's not an exact head count of players, but a pretty fair gauge of size I think. I'd say Elk River is hardly "huge" in 7AA, roughly same size as East, Andover, FL and GR.

Elk River
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 4

Duluth East
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 3

Andover
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 4

Forest Lake
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 4

Grand Rapids
-Bantams 3
-Peewees 4

St. Francis (co-op with North Branch)
-Bantams 3
-Peewees 3

Cambridge/Isanti
-Bantams 1
-Peewees 3

Cloquet
-Bantams 3
-Peewees 3

Princeton
-Bantams 2
-Peewees 2

Jeffy95 wrote:

MWS coach wrote:

Jeffy95 wrote: Yes, more of a comparison to the other 7AA programs and how the game has changed. Because of Player Movement, Hermantown's program is now larger than all 7AA Programs.

No doubt HT has had a lot of player movement and you just can't help yourself to call that out every opportunity you get, but 5 PW teams is not larger than any 7AA program, ER will likely have 5 this year as well and will have 6 squirt teams. My assumption is Andover will have about the same number of teams if not more. At least get your facts correct when you bash HT.....

Likely? Assumption? Thank you for having your facts so straight. My comparison was to last year's numbers, which another poster provided.

I don't bash HT's Youth Program, they play at the Highest Level. Player movement is a fact of life in AA hockey.

blueline_6 wrote:

alcloseshaver wrote:knivvy or MWS could you put up the youth numbers for the 7AA? Not sure if I have seen them to compare. Thanks

This is what I could find off the interwebs, either on association sites or district sites. This is the number of teams each youth association had last year at the Bantam and Peewee levels. So it's not an exact head count of players, but a pretty fair gauge of size I think. I'd say Elk River is hardly "huge" in 7AA, roughly same size as East, Andover, FL and GR.

Elk River
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 4

Duluth East
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 3

Andover
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 4

Forest Lake
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 4

Grand Rapids
-Bantams 3
-Peewees 4

St. Francis (co-op with North Branch)
-Bantams 3
-Peewees 3

Cambridge/Isanti
-Bantams 1
-Peewees 3

Cloquet
-Bantams 3
-Peewees 3

Princeton
-Bantams 2
-Peewees 2

MWS coach wrote:

Jeffy95 wrote:

MWS coach wrote: No doubt HT has had a lot of player movement and you just can't help yourself to call that out every opportunity you get, but 5 PW teams is not larger than any 7AA program, ER will likely have 5 this year as well and will have 6 squirt teams. My assumption is Andover will have about the same number of teams if not more. At least get your facts correct when you bash HT.....

Likely? Assumption? Thank you for having your facts so straight. My comparison was to last year's numbers, which another poster provided.

I don't bash HT's Youth Program, they play at the Highest Level. Player movement is a fact of life in AA hockey.

blueline_6 wrote: This is what I could find off the interwebs, either on association sites or district sites. This is the number of teams each youth association had last year at the Bantam and Peewee levels. So it's not an exact head count of players, but a pretty fair gauge of size I think. I'd say Elk River is hardly "huge" in 7AA, roughly same size as East, Andover, FL and GR.

Elk River
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 4

Duluth East
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 3

Andover
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 4

Forest Lake
-Bantams 4
-Peewees 4

Grand Rapids
-Bantams 3
-Peewees 4

St. Francis (co-op with North Branch)
-Bantams 3
-Peewees 3

Cambridge/Isanti
-Bantams 1
-Peewees 3

Cloquet
-Bantams 3
-Peewees 3

Princeton
-Bantams 2
-Peewees 2

Elk River WILL have 5 PW teams and Andover WILL have 5 PW teams, is that better?