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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:28 am
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You mean its about influence to change the rules to their benefit and they have it.minnscout wrote:That writer is a hack, Gophers have won more games than any program in the country over past 4 years. Article should be on Big Ten hockey not Gopher hockey. Give it time and Big Ten will be top conference. Its all about money and they have it.
No, the B1G will never be more than the third or fourth most competitive conference. It is bland with no personality. Right, it has the most money, but it generates very little interest.minnscout wrote:That writer is a hack, Gophers have won more games than any program in the country over past 4 years. Article should be on Big Ten hockey not Gopher hockey. Give it time and Big Ten will be top conference. Its all about money and they have it.
This is right on the money! For the last 5-6 yrs people in the hockey community have seen and heard these same comments. How many of Lucia's former players have come to his defense?greenway1969 wrote:That article is right on target. No one in the sports media in Minnesota would have the courage to say things that a lot of people are thinking or take the time to talk to people about it. Let's see where the Gophers end up at the end of the season. That will confirm or prove his article. Wasn't it a few years ago when someone in the front office for the Islanders made similar comments? He was vilified by the local press. Looks like he was way ahead of the curve.
You may want to come up with a better reference than Garth Snow if you want your comments to be taken seriously.greenway1969 wrote:That article is right on target. No one in the sports media in Minnesota would have the courage to say things that a lot of people are thinking or take the time to talk to people about it. Let's see where the Gophers end up at the end of the season. That will confirm or prove his article. Wasn't it a few years ago when someone in the front office for the Islanders made similar comments? He was vilified by the local press. Looks like he was way ahead of the curve.
Last I checked he was the President and GM of the Islanders. They seem do being doing very well and have quite a few Mn guys! Who would you want to be referenced if you want it taken seriously?Section 8 guy wrote:You may want to come up with a better reference than Garth Snow if you want your comments to be taken seriously.greenway1969 wrote:That article is right on target. No one in the sports media in Minnesota would have the courage to say things that a lot of people are thinking or take the time to talk to people about it. Let's see where the Gophers end up at the end of the season. That will confirm or prove his article. Wasn't it a few years ago when someone in the front office for the Islanders made similar comments? He was vilified by the local press. Looks like he was way ahead of the curve.
Interesting article. Thanks for the link.greybeard58 wrote:http://www.citypages.com/news/what-happ ... am-7960026
Recruit whoever he wants but don't fuss when your choices of 14 year old players is wrong. Obviously not the best approach for developing a winning program. Not a big fan of 21 year old freshmen (only sport that has junior development leagues) but it is what it is.what is he to do in terms of recruiting?
Yeah, but what you must take into consideration is most if Not all of the gophers currently playing in the NHL would have likely made it to the NHL regardless of where they played college hockey....Erik Johnson, Okposo, Goligoski, Leddy, M. Reilly, Paul Martin, Blake Wheeler, Bjugstad etc. All were guys who make it to the show no matter what...the U was merely a stop on their way there....and how much better/more prepared would they have been when they got to the NHL developing somewhere else?grindiangrad-80 wrote:Just did a quick check on former college players currently in NHL. These are close to accurate but maybe a player or two off either way. It shows 17 former Gophers and 15 former North Dakota players. (Pretty much equal)
I just thought that was interesting being the talk by many is that Minnesota does not develop players nearly as well as some other schools.
I will check into what other programs have in the NHL.
That could be a valid point. I would think the same could be said for the other players though. Maybe not in all cases but I would think most of the former college players in the NHL would have reached that level no matter which school they attended. I may be wrong- just my line of thought.Sats81 wrote:Yeah, but what you must take into consideration is most if Not all of the gophers currently playing in the NHL would have likely made it to the NHL regardless of where they played college hockey....Erik Johnson, Okposo, Goligoski, Leddy, M. Reilly, Paul Martin, Blake Wheeler, Bjugstad etc. All were guys who make it to the show no matter what...the U was merely a stop on their way there....and how much better/more prepared would they have been when they got to the NHL developing somewhere else?grindiangrad-80 wrote:Just did a quick check on former college players currently in NHL. These are close to accurate but maybe a player or two off either way. It shows 17 former Gophers and 15 former North Dakota players. (Pretty much equal)
I just thought that was interesting being the talk by many is that Minnesota does not develop players nearly as well as some other schools.
I will check into what other programs have in the NHL.
I think every player that I mentioned was drafted in the 1st or 2nd round.grindiangrad-80 wrote:That could be a valid point. I would think the same could be said for the other players though. Maybe not in all cases but I would think most of the former college players in the NHL would have reached that level no matter which school they attended. I may be wrong- just my line of thought.Sats81 wrote:Yeah, but what you must take into consideration is most if Not all of the gophers currently playing in the NHL would have likely made it to the NHL regardless of where they played college hockey....Erik Johnson, Okposo, Goligoski, Leddy, M. Reilly, Paul Martin, Blake Wheeler, Bjugstad etc. All were guys who make it to the show no matter what...the U was merely a stop on their way there....and how much better/more prepared would they have been when they got to the NHL developing somewhere else?grindiangrad-80 wrote:Just did a quick check on former college players currently in NHL. These are close to accurate but maybe a player or two off either way. It shows 17 former Gophers and 15 former North Dakota players. (Pretty much equal)
I just thought that was interesting being the talk by many is that Minnesota does not develop players nearly as well as some other schools.
I will check into what other programs have in the NHL.
I can agree with that.Sats81 wrote:I think every player that I mentioned was drafted in the 1st or 2nd round.grindiangrad-80 wrote:That could be a valid point. I would think the same could be said for the other players though. Maybe not in all cases but I would think most of the former college players in the NHL would have reached that level no matter which school they attended. I may be wrong- just my line of thought.Sats81 wrote: Yeah, but what you must take into consideration is most if Not all of the gophers currently playing in the NHL would have likely made it to the NHL regardless of where they played college hockey....Erik Johnson, Okposo, Goligoski, Leddy, M. Reilly, Paul Martin, Blake Wheeler, Bjugstad etc. All were guys who make it to the show no matter what...the U was merely a stop on their way there....and how much better/more prepared would they have been when they got to the NHL developing somewhere else?
Less than 50% of 2nd rnd NHL picks ever play an NHL game....most of those guys being 1st rnd picks were almost guaranteed to make it there no matter what.
Generates very little interest??? 2015-16 college hockey attendance:Puckguy19 wrote:No, the B1G will never be more than the third or fourth most competitive conference. It is bland with no personality. Right, it has the most money, but it generates very little interest.minnscout wrote:That writer is a hack, Gophers have won more games than any program in the country over past 4 years. Article should be on Big Ten hockey not Gopher hockey. Give it time and Big Ten will be top conference. Its all about money and they have it.