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Trying to figure out the difference between East and West
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:54 am
by zambonidriver
On the East side of the twin cities the strong programs are mainly private. The exception being Stillwater. On the west side of the cities the Strong programs are public. I wonder why?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:18 pm
by sinbin
Are the 'B' schools Central?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:28 pm
by zambonidriver
Sinbin I don't understand
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:49 pm
by sinbin
The privates BSM, Breck, and Blake, which have done OK over the years. I suppose that they are more West than East, but closer to DT Mpls.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:58 pm
by zambonidriver
I guess those schools are west but I was thinking in terms of double A the big schools though I guess BSM did knock off Minnetonka.
Re: Trying to figure out the difference between East and Wes
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:04 pm
by LZ94
zambonidriver wrote:On the East side of the twin cities the strong programs are mainly private. The exception being Stillwater. On the west side of the cities the Strong programs are public. I wonder why?
Money.
Re: Trying to figure out the difference between East and Wes
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:22 am
by MNHockeyFan
LZ94 wrote:zambonidriver wrote:On the East side of the twin cities the strong programs are mainly private. The exception being Stillwater. On the west side of the cities the Strong programs are public. I wonder why?
Money.
I think school size + "demographics" have something to do with it. The Lake Conference has some of the largest enrollments in the state, including the top two: Wayzata and EP. Both are relatively wealthy. Minnetonka, Edina and Hopkins are not as large enrollment-wise, but they all have strong girls hockey traditions. These community youth programs have produced plenty of strong players and have been able to feed the three main private school hockey powers in the Minneapolis area: BSM in Class AA and Blake and Breck in Class A. It will be interesting to see if these recent trends continue....
Re: Trying to figure out the difference between East and Wes
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:56 pm
by jg2112
zambonidriver wrote:On the East side of the twin cities the strong programs are mainly private. The exception being Stillwater. On the west side of the cities the Strong programs are public. I wonder why?
Roseville has been strong for two decades.
Mounds View has gone to state 2 of the past 3 years, and had 2 losses the other year (2012-13).
Stillwater isn't the exception.
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:14 pm
by sinbin
As we all know, not all Sections are created equally.
Re: Trying to figure out the difference between East and Wes
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:32 pm
by Sparlimb
zambonidriver wrote:On the East side of the twin cities the strong programs are mainly private. The exception being Stillwater. On the west side of the cities the Strong programs are public. I wonder why?
yeah, why hasn't Roseville ever been good, or Irondale and Mounds View? White Bear, terrible. Or possibly you were wrong...
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:45 am
by zambonidriver
I am talking the trend right now. Mounds view has had two good teams over the past how many years, Rosevilles program is on the decline. Hill Murray Has been on the rise and so has Cretin, White bear has been terrible since 02 woodbury is not a force Irondale has been good but not great. MTKA, Edina, EP, Wayzata, all major forces year in and year out. Just saying...
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:35 pm
by luckyEPDad
zambonidriver wrote:I am talking the trend right now. Mounds view has had two good teams over the past how many years, Rosevilles program is on the decline. Hill Murray Has been on the rise and so has Cretin, White bear has been terrible since 02 woodbury is not a force Irondale has been good but not great. MTKA, Edina, EP, Wayzata, all major forces year in and year out. Just saying...
The Lake conference was really strong last year. This year it will be less so, and the decline will probably continue for a while. Eden Prairie may peak this year. Minnetonka will be slightly weaker than they where last season. Hopkins is going to be a shadow of what it was last season. Wayzata will continue to be good, but underperform. Edina is impossible to predict. I would really like to be wrong, but I think that unlikely.
Hockey changes like the weather. Titans fall and new teams rise to fill their place. It wasn't long before their string of three consecutive state titles that Minnetonka couldn't put a good girls team on the ice at any level.
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:49 pm
by hockeywild7
Trends, if you want to call them that come and go. And the West side trend ended last year with Hill Murray winning the state title. I would strongly disagree with your opinions on Roseville and White Bear as well. I would not count Roseville out so fast and White Bear has had some excellent teams since 02'. I am pretty sure White Bear won 21 games 3 or 4 seasons ago, and has had a few 17 plus win seasons. Not to bad especially considering the conference they play in.
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:26 pm
by brookyone
Clear Western bias in this discussion.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:28 pm
by zambonidriver
[quote="hockeywild7"]Trends, if you want to call them that come and go. And the West side trend ended last year with Hill Murray winning the state title. I would strongly disagree with your opinions on Roseville and White Bear as well. I would not count Roseville out so fast and White Bear has had some excellent teams since 02'. I am pretty sure White Bear won 21 games 3 or 4 seasons ago, and has had a few 17 plus win seasons. Not to bad especially considering the conference they play in.[/I beg to differ White Bear has been mediocre since 02. Had a step daughter graduate in 2010 should have been in the state tournament from 05 through 12 I agree Roseville has been a power but demographics and numbers are going to affect them soon. Woodbury can't get out of its own way. Will see on White Bear if they can retain their 2000 and 01 birth years ]