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CCM NIT MN Seniors Roster
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:37 am
by livinthedream
Roster for MN Seniors NIT now up; still waiting for HP-18 team to be posted. Is this list decided by scouts or coaches, anyone know?
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/sho ... 4-boys-nit
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:57 am
by greybeard58
Who are the coaches for this team or is it a secret?
Re: CCM NIT MN Seniors Roster
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:31 am
by BP
They have an evaluation committee that includes NHL and College coaches
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:08 pm
by The Exiled One
I know they've allowed college committed seniors in the Great 8 for a while now, but I thought they only picked uncommitted players for the NIT. Josh French proved me incorrect. I wouldn't fault a kid for wanting to play in front of NHL scouts, but I guess I'd have preferred to see an uncommitted player fill that roster spot.
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:31 pm
by puckbreath
The Exiled One wrote:I know they've allowed college committed seniors in the Great 8 for a while now, but I thought they only picked uncommitted players for the NIT. Josh French proved me incorrect. I wouldn't fault a kid for wanting to play in front of NHL scouts, but I guess I'd have preferred to see an uncommitted player fill that roster spot.
I think Fidler has a commit too ?
Agreed about letting others in the tournament.
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:50 pm
by WCHBlog
The Exiled One wrote:I know they've allowed college committed seniors in the Great 8 for a while now, but I thought they only picked uncommitted players for the NIT. Josh French proved me incorrect. I wouldn't fault a kid for wanting to play in front of NHL scouts, but I guess I'd have preferred to see an uncommitted player fill that roster spot.
That was the (unofficial) rule for the team they picked when they used to play in the Chicago tournament. They've taken kids with commitments ever since they started doing this NIT thing.
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:35 pm
by The Exiled One
WCHBlog wrote:That was the (unofficial) rule for the team they picked when they used to play in the Chicago tournament. They've taken kids with commitments ever since they started doing this NIT thing.
Gotcha. Bit of a shame though.
puckbreath wrote: I think Fidler has a commit too?
Not that I've heard.
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:45 pm
by puckbreath
The Exiled One wrote:WCHBlog wrote:That was the (unofficial) rule for the team they picked when they used to play in the Chicago tournament. They've taken kids with commitments ever since they started doing this NIT thing.
Gotcha. Bit of a shame though.
puckbreath wrote: I think Fidler has a commit too?
Not that I've heard.
Thanks.
Also, definitely a shame.
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:09 pm
by WestMetro
Glad to see 4 Blaine seniors were picked
I know Fidler had a junior commit, but wasn't aware of college?
Also, I recall Marooney was committed to Huntsville
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:23 pm
by offtheglas
greybeard58 wrote:Who are the coaches for this team or is it a secret?
I think a couple parents that are big hockey influencers
18s
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:44 am
by Tenoverpar
CCM NIT 18's
Dylan Lubbesmeyer G Burnesville
Brady Schoo D Eden Prairie
Colton Berg D Centennial
Davis Zarembinski D Hill Murray
Jack McNeely D Lakevill North
Tyler Vold D Andover
Will Borgen D Moorhead
Dixon Bowen F EGForks
Dylan Malmquist F Edina
Jake Jaremko F Elk River
John Peterson F Holy Family
Josh Passolt F Maple Grove
Lukas Gillett F Rosemount
Matt Masterman F Edina
Nick Reis F Cretin Derham Hall
Parker Mismash F Edina
Carter Roo F Benilde St Margaret's
Nick Poehling F Lakeville North
Nathan Dingmann F Wayzata
Trent Jancze G Cretin Derham Hall
Re: 18s
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:56 am
by puckbreath
Tenoverpar wrote:CCM NIT 18's
Dylan Lubbesmeyer G Burnesville
Brady Schoo D Eden Prairie
Colton Berg D Centennial
Davis Zarembinski D Hill Murray
Jack McNeely D Lakevill North
Tyler Vold D Andover
Will Borgen D Moorhead
Dixon Bowen F EGForks
Dylan Malmquist F Edina
Jake Jaremko F Elk River
John Peterson F Holy Family
Josh Passolt F Maple Grove
Lukas Gillett F Rosemount
Matt Masterman F Edina
Nick Reis F Cretin Derham Hall
Parker Mismash F Edina
Carter Roo F Benilde St Margaret's
Nick Poehling F Lakeville North
Nathan Dingmann F Wayzata
Trent Jancze G Cretin Derham Hall
Interesting.
As with the great 8, there is at least one name on this list (Borgen), who didn't play all three games from what I hear (injured early in the second game).
Re: 18s
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:49 am
by The Exiled One
Tenoverpar wrote:Nick Poehling F Lakeville North
Where's Jack?
Re: 18s
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:38 pm
by almostashappy
Tenoverpar wrote:CCM NIT 18's
Dylan Lubbesmeyer G Burnesville
Brady Schoo D Eden Prairie
Colton Berg D Centennial
Davis Zarembinski D Hill Murray
Jack McNeely D Lakevill North
Tyler Vold D Andover
Will Borgen D Moorhead
Dixon Bowen F EGForks
Dylan Malmquist F Edina
Jake Jaremko F Elk River
John Peterson F Holy Family
Josh Passolt F Maple Grove
Lukas Gillett F Rosemount
Matt Masterman F Edina
Nick Reis F Cretin Derham Hall
Parker Mismash F Edina
Carter Roo F Benilde St Margaret's
Nick Poehling F Lakeville North
Nathan Dingmann F Wayzata
Trent Jancze G Cretin Derham Hall
To link this with another active thread...these kids are 96's, right? Aged out of U17, but not graduating seniors...a lot of them will be 18 this fall when they start their senior year of high school. So, if they're 18, are they mature enough to handle venturing out to play junior hockey (according to Russo), or do they still need to gain the benefits of playing their senior year for Russo and/or their hometown high school (according to Russo)?
HP 18 roster
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:19 pm
by Bob Anderson
Tenoverpar wrote:
Nick Poehling F Lakeville North
Where's Jack?
Where were the Poehlings?
On Friday Jack and Nick picked up where they left off in the state championship game; hacking, taking cheap shots and drawing penalties and limiting their effectiveness.
The Saturday game the Poehlings missed
Sunday - I think they picked up a point between them.
Better question: Where's are the players that shined in the games? Lutz, Foley, Giller, Welch? Brodzinski? The Edina team lost all games? Yet all 3 Edina forwards and Roo made it to the CCM NIT phase?
Even Better Question: Where are the stats that were once on the Hockey Hub? Why were they removed? A kid like Mishmash, Roo or Dingmann - maybe got a point all weekend.
To tie in another post, maybe kids would stay in HS hockey if things like HP tourney were run legitimately and kids were chosen on their effort/results.
Re: HP 18 roster
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:54 pm
by almostashappy
Bob Anderson wrote:Tenoverpar wrote:
Nick Poehling F Lakeville North
Where's Jack?
Where were the Poehlings?
On Friday Jack and Nick picked up where they left off in the state championship game; hacking, taking cheap shots and drawing penalties and limiting their effectiveness.
The Saturday game the Poehlings missed
Sunday - I think they picked up a point between them.
Better question: Where's are the players that shined in the games? Lutz, Foley, Giller, Welch? Brodzinski? The Edina team lost all games? Yet all 3 Edina forwards and Roo made it to the CCM NIT phase?
Even Better Question: Where are the stats that were once on the Hockey Hub? Why were they removed? A kid like Mishmash, Roo or Dingmann - maybe got a point all weekend.
To tie in another post, maybe kids would stay in HS hockey if things like HP tourney were run legitimately and kids were chosen on their effort/results.
You can safely blame the lack of hub stats on nothing more nefarious than the same lack of budget/scaled back scope that severely hampered the hub during the high school season. Besides, from your comments you're probably already in the camp that believes that players are chosen irrespective of how they actually played that weekend. While having stats to support an argument over which kid got slighted or which got a pass might make that argument stronger (or make you feel better), the end result is the same...they pick who they want to pick. Of course, they're far less discriminating when it comes to accepting tryout fees from anyone and everyone with a (seemingly futile) dream and/or a belief that their performance actually is relevant.
Re: HP 18 roster
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:16 pm
by puckbreath
almostashappy wrote:Bob Anderson wrote:Tenoverpar wrote:
Nick Poehling F Lakeville North
Where's Jack?
Where were the Poehlings?
On Friday Jack and Nick picked up where they left off in the state championship game; hacking, taking cheap shots and drawing penalties and limiting their effectiveness.
The Saturday game the Poehlings missed
Sunday - I think they picked up a point between them.
Better question: Where's are the players that shined in the games? Lutz, Foley, Giller, Welch? Brodzinski? The Edina team lost all games? Yet all 3 Edina forwards and Roo made it to the CCM NIT phase?
Even Better Question: Where are the stats that were once on the Hockey Hub? Why were they removed? A kid like Mishmash, Roo or Dingmann - maybe got a point all weekend.
To tie in another post, maybe kids would stay in HS hockey if things like HP tourney were run legitimately and kids were chosen on their effort/results.
You can safely blame the lack of hub stats on nothing more nefarious than the same lack of budget/scaled back scope that severely hampered the hub during the high school season. Besides, from your comments you're probably already in the camp that believes that players are chosen irrespective of how they actually played that weekend. While having stats to support an argument over which kid got slighted or which got a pass might make that argument stronger (or make you feel better), the end result is the same...they pick who they want to pick. Of course, they're far less discriminating when it comes to accepting tryout fees from anyone and everyone with a (seemingly futile) dream and/or a belief that their performance actually is relevant.
Doesn't appear to be much difference these days, between these programs and the Advanced stuff, in terms of politics, etc.
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:08 pm
by elliott70
Does anyone know which kids declined participation at the beginning of the tournament?
They are asked if they can play. And those that cannot/ do not wish to are not even evaluated.
Has anyone on here seen the evaluation form that is used to critique the players?
The spreadsheet used to determine which players within the bubble group should be asked?
Has anyone ever participated in the process?
Or are we all a bunch of whiners because our friends second cousin did not get asked?
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:19 pm
by puckbreath
elliott70 wrote:Does anyone know which kids declined participation at the beginning of the tournament?
They are asked if they can play. And those that cannot/ do not wish to are not even evaluated.
Has anyone on here seen the evaluation form that is used to critique the players?
The spreadsheet used to determine which players within the bubble group should be asked?
Has anyone ever participated in the process?
Or are we all a bunch of whiners because our friends second cousin did not get asked?
When kids that aren't even at an event, the entire weekend (and with the Advanced stuff, sometimes not at all....) get picked.........if you want to call that whining, sign me up.
And that's just for starters.
But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see something that doesn't pass the smell test.
p.s. none of my friends have second cousins

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:18 pm
by urban iceman
It's all tainted, but people will keep throwing their $$ at it thinking they can break the mold (including the Iceman!!) We done tho..
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:42 pm
by almostashappy
elliott70 wrote:Does anyone know which kids declined participation at the beginning of the tournament?
They are asked if they can play. And those that cannot/ do not wish to are not even evaluated.
Has anyone on here seen the evaluation form that is used to critique the players?
The spreadsheet used to determine which players within the bubble group should be asked?
Has anyone ever participated in the process?
Or are we all a bunch of whiners because our friends second cousin did not get asked?
Kid got invited to Phase 1...by email and follow-up phone call from coordinator. Declined because of spring sports conflicts and a sour attitude after going through the HP16s sideshow two years previous.
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:56 pm
by noflybys
They need to fix this whole HP thing.. Its getting to be a joke from 15's on up!