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Best coach in the state?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:11 pm
by Slammer
I'm curious on people's opinions about who is the best coach (regardless of class) in the state. I'm not very knowledgable on any coaches that are not in Duluth, so I'm just curious on people's thoughts. I know Randolph is up there, but who do you guys think is THE best coach?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:27 pm
by BodyShots
Without a doubt, its got to be Sager....

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:46 pm
by notTONIGHT
Matt Lais. Assistant Coach. Luverne MN

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:34 pm
by starmvp
Giles

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:58 pm
by mulefarm
Eric Johnson-Minnetonka
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:23 pm
by puckbreath
Shot Gunderson
Whatsamatta U
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:48 am
by HShockeywatcher
Duluth East has not had a losing season in the history of their program.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:01 am
by greenway1969
Esse of Cloquet. Less resources and talent but always gets the most out of his players. Cloquet always seems to overachieve. Although Randolph is good, a couple of his teams have underachieved.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:50 am
by pitbull
mulefarm wrote:Eric Johnson-Minnetonka
I do think EJ has got it going over there.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:30 am
by curtiscurve
Lechner. Not just a great coach, but a great man and roll model for his players and others in the coaching world.
Bruce Plante would get my vote for Class A. Same qualities as Lechner.
Randolph and Esse are also in the conversation on the AA level.
Tony Couture (Little Falls) and Eric Johnson (Cathedral) are both underrated coaches in Class A .
top coaches
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:07 am
by bauerman
All those coaches are good coaches however I can not understand how Tom Vannelli is never mentioned in a question like this . I know there are a lot of STA haters but Tom always puts forth a very well coached team that adjusts to the strengths of the lineup from year to year. Does he have good talent? Of cousre but so do Lechner, Giles and Randoulph
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:19 am
by SiouxCityMayor
[quote="HShockeywatcher"]Duluth East has not had a losing season in the history of their program.[/quote]
That's a pretty strong indication of a good coaching staff!
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:41 am
by SimplyPut
what determines a good coach? some coaches are unable to make adjustments to affect (improve) teams play. I have seen to often their definition of an adjustment is to shorten the bench. ??? do they shorten the bench when thier more experienced or top players make the mistakes. Are your coachres able to come up with a differnt forcheck, or breakout sceem that can change the pace of a game? to often we see coaches do the same thing expecting different results?
also to often we base coaches based on win's and losses. Hell some of these programs due to the numbers and youth system in place my grandma could coach and have similar results. Kudo's to those coaches that can give these kids a great learning, self respected invironment that can benefit them for life. if they enjoy it, they'll be good at it.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:43 am
by Sats81
Lechner
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:53 am
by Nevertoomuchhockey
OMG can we please not talk about short benching anymore.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:58 am
by wolfman
Tony Sarsland. Best old school coach ever..
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:06 am
by bardown27
SimplyPut wrote:what determines a good coach? some coaches are unable to make adjustments to affect (improve) teams play. I have seen to often their definition of an adjustment is to shorten the bench. ??? do they shorten the bench when thier more experienced or top players make the mistakes. Are your coachres able to come up with a differnt forcheck, or breakout sceem that can change the pace of a game? to often we see coaches do the same thing expecting different results?
also to often we base coaches based on win's and losses. Hell some of these programs due to the numbers and youth system in place my grandma could coach and have similar results. Kudo's to those coaches that can give these kids a great learning, self respected invironment that can benefit them for life. if they enjoy it, they'll be good at it.
Waaaaaaaay too many spelling mistakes for me to fix...
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:08 am
by Nevertoomuchhockey
bardown27 wrote:SimplyPut wrote:what determines a good coach? some coaches are unable to make adjustments to affect (improve) teams play. I have seen to often their definition of an adjustment is to shorten the bench. ??? do they shorten the bench when thier more experienced or top players make the mistakes. Are your coachres able to come up with a differnt forcheck, or breakout sceem that can change the pace of a game? to often we see coaches do the same thing expecting different results?
also to often we base coaches based on win's and losses. Hell some of these programs due to the numbers and youth system in place my grandma could coach and have similar results. Kudo's to those coaches that can give these kids a great learning, self respected invironment that can benefit them for life. if they enjoy it, they'll be good at it.
Waaaaaaaay too many grammar mistakes for me to fix...
Agreed, but you have to admit - "sceem" - best typo ever.
top coaches
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:12 am
by bauerman
what was Lechners record at Stillwater?
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:08 pm
by east hockey
SiouxCityMayor wrote:HShockeywatcher wrote:Duluth East has not had a losing season in the history of their program.
That's a pretty strong indication of a good coaching staff!
Except what HSHW says isn't correct. East has had a few losing seasons. In the 50's.
Lee
Re: top coaches
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:11 pm
by Sats81
bauerman wrote:what was Lechners record at Stillwater?
Similar to Mike Grants at Forest Lake before he went to EP. Really irrelevant though. Can't argue with success he has had, regardless if players are "recruited" or not.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:20 pm
by Pioneerprideguy
I have been a proud HM alum for many, many years and have personally played for/known their hockey coaches over this time. All these coaches have experienced success primarily because of the constant talent that comes thru the door at Hill. When the Lex retires, I believe the next coach will experience success as well. The tradition will continue.
I do find it amuzing to hear the difference of perception of Lechner from those inside the HM inner cirlce and those outside. People on the outside see a humble guy who says/does all the right things and those on the inside know that is not always the case. I think people forget, Lechner did not make Hill Murray, but rather, Hill Murray made Lechner. Had he stayed at Stillwater, I suspect people would have a different opinion of him.
Lex is a good coach who annualy has above average talent. To his credit, he has been able to guide those teams to success. But with that, he has also benefitted in many ways, one of which, is his reputation.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:20 pm
by puckbreath
Plante always seems to do a good job.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:37 pm
by elliott70
east hockey wrote:SiouxCityMayor wrote:HShockeywatcher wrote:Duluth East has not had a losing season in the history of their program.
That's a pretty strong indication of a good coaching staff!
Except what HSHW says isn't correct. East has had a few losing seasons. In the 50's.
Lee
In REGION 7 they could never beat the Broncos.
Once in a a while they would pull an upset in Region 3 and beat the Section 8 loser.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:43 pm
by elliott70
Pioneerprideguy wrote:I have been a proud HM alum for many, many years and have personally played for/known their hockey coaches over this time. All these coaches have experienced success primarily because of the constant talent that comes thru the door at Hill. When the Lex retires, I believe the next coach will experience success as well. The tradition will continue.
I do find it amuzing to hear the difference of perception of Lechner from those inside the HM inner cirlce and those outside. People on the outside see a humble guy who says/does all the right things and those on the inside know that is not always the case. I think people forget, Lechner did not make Hill Murray, but rather, Hill Murray made Lechner. Had he stayed at Stillwater, I suspect people would have a different opinion of him.
Lex is a good coach who annualy has above average talent. To his credit, he has been able to guide those teams to success. But with that, he has also benefitted in many ways, one of which, is his reputation.
I am not a private school guy by any stretch.
But Hill has always been one of my favorite programs at least from the days of Dave Langevin.
I believe the program is Hill, all those that get to be involved benefit from it.