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Who's Not Returning 2013-2014
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:28 am
by The Exiled One
Might as well get this started.
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Here's an easy one...
Sr F Jack Ramsey Minnetonka Penticton-BCHL (Minnesota)
Try to include a link to your source if you can. I might take your word and add your player to the list if you have a history of sharing accurate information.
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:39 am
by The Exiled One
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Class Pos Player HS Team New Team College
Jr F Shane Gersich Holy Family NTDP North Dakota
Sr F Jack Ramsey Minnetonka Penticton-BCHL Minnesota
Sr F Karson Kuhlman Cloquet Dubuque-USHL Minnesota-Duluth
Sr F Austin Poganski St. Cloud Cathedral Tri-City-USHL North Dakota
Sr F Avery Peterson Grand Rapids Sioux City-USHL
Sr F Connor Hurley Edina Muskegon-USHL Notre Dame
Sr D Jack Dougherty St. Thomas NTDP
Sr D Cole Bjugson Roseau Fargo-USHL
Sr D Blake Hillman Elk River Dubuque-USHL
Sr D Neal Pionk Hermantown Sioux City-USHL Minnesota-Duluth
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:22 am
by dueling21
bump. Plenty of rumors out there, but just a couple confirmed so far.
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:34 am
by UpNorthMom
Cole Bjugson is leaving the Roseau Rams . . . committed to and drafted by the Fargo Force.
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:18 am
by minnscout
Blake Hillman Elk River- Dubuque USHL
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:33 pm
by rockcrusher
Neal Pionk, Sr. Hermantown. Sioux city
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:34 pm
by ThePuckStopsHere
Can someone answer this question - What happens if these players decide to complete their senior year and not go the USHL route?
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:17 pm
by Wildcathcky
ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Can someone answer this question - What happens if these players decide to complete their senior year and not go the USHL route?
Many college coaches want players to spend at least a year in junior before joining the college program. So, staying in high school for a senior year may simply delay when they enter college depending on the coach's position.
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:40 pm
by ThePuckStopsHere
Wildcathcky wrote:ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Can someone answer this question - What happens if these players decide to complete their senior year and not go the USHL route?
Many college coaches want players to spend at least a year in junior before joining the college program. So, staying in high school for a senior year may simply delay when they enter college depending on the coach's position.
Ok so is it fair to say most if not all of the players have been contacted by D1 schools or are they going on the assumption they will be contacted after a year in the USHL?
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:02 pm
by The Exiled One
ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Wildcathcky wrote:ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Can someone answer this question - What happens if these players decide to complete their senior year and not go the USHL route?
Many college coaches want players to spend at least a year in junior before joining the college program. So, staying in high school for a senior year may simply delay when they enter college depending on the coach's position.
Ok so is it fair to say most if not all of the players have been contacted by D1 schools or are they going on the assumption they will be contacted after a year in the USHL?
Both. Some are surefire D1 players, with or without standing offers, looking to increase their exposure, rate of development, and getting the obligatory "year of juniors" out of the way.
Some have had limited contact and are simply attempting to increase their exposure and/or development in the hopes of landing a D1 scholarship offer. This is a gamble, IMHO.
Again, IMHO, I'd recommend a kid stay in HS until he has a scholarship offer THEN go to juniors. Of course, some HS programs have poor reputations and/or extremely soft schedules. It'd be tough to be an elite player stuck on one of those teams through your senior season. It happens though.
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:15 pm
by ThePuckStopsHere
Just can't imagine asking your child to give up his Senior Year in hopes of a D1 opportunity. I believe if your good enough they will find you no matter what.
Great article a couple months back in the Tribune on Nick Leddy saying no to all the pressure and staying his senior year. It didn't work out too bad for him.
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:45 pm
by The Exiled One
ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Just can't imagine asking your child to give up his Senior Year in hopes of a D1 opportunity. I believe if your good enough they will find you no matter what.
Great article a couple months back in the Tribune on Nick Leddy saying no to all the pressure and staying his senior year. It didn't work out too bad for him.
It worked out great! However, not too many players are given the change to go straight from HS to high-level D1 nowadays. Looking at last season...
• The Gophers tend to have more (Rau, Bjugstad, Budish, Holl, Alt, Horn)
• Wisconsin had three (Labate, Faust, Navin)
• UMD had two last year (Delisle, Sampair)
• SCSU had one last year (Hanowski) and won't have any next year
• MSUM could count Blueger if they wanted (SSM)
• Bemidji and UND didn't have any
...so that's 11 or 13 (depending on how you count them) high school players who went straight to one of the seven closest D1 colleges without playing a season of juniors. There are about 210 players on all of these rosters combined. Just looking quickly at the recruits for next season, you can expect that the number of D1 players who come straight from high school will continue to decline.
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:16 pm
by Gopher Blog
ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Just can't imagine asking your child to give up his Senior Year in hopes of a D1 opportunity. I believe if your good enough they will find you no matter what.
Great article a couple months back in the Tribune on Nick Leddy saying no to all the pressure and staying his senior year. It didn't work out too bad for him.
I doubt any parent is asking the kid to do something the kid doesn't want to do. The way your first sentence sounds, you'd think a kid had a gun held to his head by his dad.
I think some of the above posts give pretty good examples of why a kid may make such a decision. Could be lack of good HS competition in his area, additional exposure to college/pro scouts, etc. To each their own on that.
A kid like Leddy didn't have to worry about that given who/where he played. It's not the same story for every kid.
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:30 pm
by The Exiled One
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:17 am
by slyer
you would think that players would want an extra year to develop by staying in hs, whats the big rush? thinking it's more look at me
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:05 am
by Bluewhitefan
slyer wrote:you would think that players would want an extra year to develop by staying in hs, whats the big rush? thinking it's more look at me
They get what that development elsewhere - Juniors, NTDP - and many think it's better.
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:11 am
by observer
Slyer,
NTDP? Pretty unique opportunity which is considered the best in hockey.
USHL? The top junior league in the US with a lot of young players from other states pushing their advancement. A big step up developmentally. Many with D1 deals in hand.
NAHL? The top Tier II option in the US. Similar to the USHL in terms of big step developmentally. Generally players are a year older (top NAHL teams will be loaded with 93s this year while the USHL only allows a few 93s per team) which makes it a tough experience.
Since schools are accepting verbal agreements from 9th graders the players are in competition with 1000 other hockey players in the US for D1 spots. As they say, you're either catching up or you're falling behind. I agree it's sad they can't stay for their senior year in HS, sophomore or junior year for the NTDP, but the race with other players from across the US is on.
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:24 am
by observer
Kuhlman Cloquet Dubuque?
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:24 am
by SuperStar
observer wrote:Slyer,
NTDP? Pretty unique opportunity which is considered the best in hockey.
USHL? The top junior league in the US with a lot of young players from other states pushing their advancement. A big step up developmentally. Many with D1 deals in hand.
NAHL? The top Tier II option in the US. Similar to the USHL in terms of big step developmentally. Generally players are a year older (top NAHL teams will be loaded with 93s this year while the USHL only allows a few 93s per team) which makes it a tough experience.
Since schools are accepting verbal agreements from 9th graders the players are in competition with 1000 other hockey players in the US for D1 spots. As they say, you're either catching up or you're falling behind. I agree it's sad they can't stay for their senior year in HS, sophomore or junior year for the NTDP, but the race with other players from across the US is on.
Very, Very true!
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:40 pm
by The Exiled One
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:01 pm
by MNhockey29
Anyone know if Avery Peterson and Michaud are leaving next year?
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:38 pm
by kniven
MNhockey29 wrote:Anyone know if Avery Peterson and Michaud are leaving next year?
From what I hear so far, Westin Michaud won't be back for Cloquet. It could change, but that's what I'm hearing.
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:00 am
by rainier
MNhockey29 wrote:Anyone know if Avery Peterson and Michaud are leaving next year?
According to Russo, Peterson will play in USHL.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/215389801.html
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:10 pm
by MNhockey29
Any word on Perry and if he'll leave for Sioux Falls?
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:16 pm
by NLHockey
MNhockey29 wrote:Any word on Perry and if he'll leave for Sioux Falls?
Played this weekend for Andover in Cloquet, if that means anything