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4AA Seeds

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:31 am
by Sparlimb
1. Hill-Murray
2. Roseville
3. Stillwater
4. Cretin-Derham Hall
5. North St. Paul
6. Tartan
7. White Bear Lake
8. Minneapolis Novas
9. St. Paul Blades


Looks like a 3rd straight Roseville v HM final to me...

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:09 am
by ghshockeyfan
Sparlimb wrote:1. Hill-Murray
2. Roseville
3. Stillwater
4. Cretin-Derham Hall
5. North St. Paul
6. Tartan
7. White Bear Lake
8. Minneapolis Novas
9. St. Paul Blades

Looks like a 3rd straight Rosevilee v HM final to me...
(I think this is still the link to last year... and needs to be refreshed for the above)
http://mshsl.org/mshsl/showxmlbrackets. ... acket=5344

KRACH had it this way as of this AM:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20130202.htm

8 Hill-Murray 16-5-3 174.114 AA 4
16 Roseville 17-7-0 96.531 AA 4
23 Cretin-Derham Hall 15-10-0 58.106 AA 4
25 Stillwater 13-10-1 56.572 AA 4
54 North St. Paul 12-9-2 13.119 AA 4
56 White Bear Lake 5-14-5 12.756 AA 4
65 Tartan 12-11-1 7.632 AA 4
86 Minneapolis 11-13-1 2.198 AA 4
97 St. Paul Blades 5-17-1 0.948 AA 4

The voters inverted SW/CDH for 3/4 and Tartan/WBL for 6/7.

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:21 am
by sinbin
So how are section seedings determined? Meeting of coaches, everyone pleading their case, best overall record, best KRACH/other ranking systems, head-to-head, intangibles, voting and re-voting, etc.?

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:35 am
by ghshockeyfan
sinbin wrote:So how are section seedings determined? Meeting of coaches, everyone pleading their case, best overall record, best KRACH/other ranking systems, head-to-head, intangibles, voting and re-voting, etc.?
Politics? Positioning ones team to do well...

My memory is fading, but this was how I remember 10 of these sessions going:

1) Consider head-to-head
2) Common opponents (score diff if similar W/L/T results)
3) Strength of schedule & overall record
4) Other accomplishments and/or extenuating circumstances faced
(Computerized rankings were rarely, if ever, discussed)

Coaches rank every team but their own, usually high and low ranks are thrown out as to not skew the average.

Coaches usually were able to first give a couple minute high-level summary of their season and where they see their team falling.

These were sometimes frustrating, sometimes funny, or somewhere inbetween.

I remember my first seeding mtg (back when there was only one class - so about a dozen teams per section) and everyone was making their 2 minute talk about the four items above and then came the coach of a small-school team with little to say about on-ice accomplishments. He simply said "we're really good in the classroom"

That's what I recall anyway.

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:31 pm
by ghshockeyfan

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:43 pm
by ghshockeyfan
PS - It's great to see winning seasons out of #5 NSP & #6 Tartan this season with some credit needing to go to solid 1st year female coaches. Well done!

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:47 pm
by ghshockeyfan

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:30 pm
by Sparlimb
Hill-Murray up 2-0 after 1 against CDH. Shots 10-1 for HM.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:57 pm
by Sparlimb
2-0 after 2.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:36 pm
by Sparlimb
3-0 final. HM v Roseville it is

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:39 am
by Pioneerprideguy
Hey Spar,

You heading out to the game tonight, if so, willing to post updates? Unless our plans change, we won't be able to make it but would appreciate updates (haven't seen if it will be broadcasted any where).
Good Luck Pioneers!

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:25 am
by old goalie85
Go Roseville/SEC.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:25 pm
by Sparlimb
0-0 after 1. Shots 7-6 HM.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:29 pm
by Pioneerprideguy
Thanks Spar

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:02 pm
by Sparlimb
0-0 after 2. Roseville fails on 5-3 pp and HM 0-2 on breakaways. Shots 16-11 HM. Hill is slightly better, but could go either way right now.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:10 pm
by Pioneerprideguy
Decent crowd?

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:18 pm
by Sparlimb
1-0 HM. Pp. 13:25 left

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:18 pm
by Sparlimb
1-1

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:19 pm
by Sparlimb
1-1

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:31 pm
by Sparlimb
2-1 HM. Pp again 5 min left

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:36 pm
by Pioneerprideguy
Run clock run

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:43 pm
by Sparlimb
3-1 final. HM with am empty netter. Congrats to Pioneers!

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:49 pm
by Pioneerprideguy
That's awesome! Congrats Pioneers & good luck at State!!

Thanks Sparlimb!!

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:18 pm
by Sparlimb
Crowd was nice. Maybe 2/3's full and certainly more than will be their for boys quarterfinals. Didn't hear final shots, but the difference ended up being Roseville 0-4 on PP and HM 2-2.

And my son said he saw a tweet that IRONDALE beat Mounds View. What a night, my two favorite teams won...

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:39 pm
by Pioneerprideguy
HM #3 seed? What time are they announced? Congrats to the Knights as well.