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Minimum time between same day ice times - Who knows this?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:35 am
by Snap Happy
...Anyone know off hand?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:41 am
by BadgerBob82
3 hour rest rule

Re: Minimum time between same day ice times - Who knows this

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:45 am
by CRBantamAcoach
Snap Happy wrote:...Anyone know off hand?
VIII. PLAYING RULES
L. Team Rest - Teams shall not participate in more than two (2) on-ice activities per day, nor shall they
participate in more than one tournament at a time (no overlapping days). On-ice activities include games,
exhibition games and/or practices. There shall be a minimum of three (3) hours between on-ice activities
on the same day and ten (10) hours between on-ice activities on consecutive days. The time is from the
end of one on-ice activity to the beginning of the next. Exception – For Mites, the time between activities
can be reduced to 1½ hours.

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:54 am
by Snap Happy
Thanks guys.

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:28 am
by BadgerBob82
To start the "splitting hairs" debate. I have been told 2 hour practices are not allowed if the ice is resurfaced after the 1st hour. So it is ok to skate for 2 hours straight, but not 1st hour, Zam, 2nd hour. Anyone heard of this?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:47 pm
by luvuvgame
BadgerBob82 wrote:To start the "splitting hairs" debate. I have been told 2 hour practices are not allowed if the ice is resurfaced after the 1st hour. So it is ok to skate for 2 hours straight, but not 1st hour, Zam, 2nd hour. Anyone heard of this?
Unless your association has a rule against it, there is nowhere that says you have to limit the time your practice runs.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:48 am
by QuackerTracker
What benifit is there to a 2 hour practice?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:57 am
by BadgerBob82
QuackerTracker: You're kidding right?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:55 am
by codemanh
luvuvgame wrote:
BadgerBob82 wrote:To start the "splitting hairs" debate. I have been told 2 hour practices are not allowed if the ice is resurfaced after the 1st hour. So it is ok to skate for 2 hours straight, but not 1st hour, Zam, 2nd hour. Anyone heard of this?
Unless your association has a rule against it, there is nowhere that says you have to limit the time your practice runs.
I'm thinking that possibly the resurface in the middle makes the ice time count as 2 separate sessions and that they'd have to wait the 3 hours?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:24 am
by greybeard58
A number of game times are 2 hour with a resurface during the 2 hour time frame, it is considered 1 event, there should be no reason to consider a 2 hour bracket different since some arenas do not allow a 2 hour practice with out a resurface. When the 4-12 came out years ago I do not remember of a team being punished for resurfacing and breaking up a 2 hour practice. If you want a true ruling contact your District Director.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:11 pm
by QuackerTracker
BadgerBob82 wrote:QuackerTracker: You're kidding right?
No, there is not a youth level player that can pay attention that long or has the physical ability to practice at the proper speed to gain anything from 2 hours of practice with a 15 minute resurface.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:59 pm
by BadgerBob82
That is utterly ridiculous Quacker. Not for Mites, but for Squirts and above, 2 hours is ideal.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:48 pm
by QuackerTracker
BadgerBob82 wrote:That is utterly ridiculous Quacker. Not for Mites, but for Squirts and above, 2 hours is ideal.
Show my a practice plan that can go 2 hours that keeps kids interested. There has to be a ton of standing around and waisted ice time. Maybe some skating around cones.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:15 pm
by luvuvgame
QuackerTracker wrote:
BadgerBob82 wrote:That is utterly ridiculous Quacker. Not for Mites, but for Squirts and above, 2 hours is ideal.
Show my a practice plan that can go 2 hours that keeps kids interested. There has to be a ton of standing around and waisted ice time. Maybe some skating around cones.
We practice 2+ hrs 2-3 times a week. There is no standing around and the kids are on task for the entire practice. The great part of it, as a coach you don't have to feel like you need to move on or rush to the next drill even when certain players still aren't getting it. It gives you time to actually teach and not be more concerned with clock. It also allows for time to have the larger group play small games on one end of the rink while you work on position specific stuff at the other end. The best part of having that kind of time, it gives you as a coach time to add more "fun" practice plans, like scrimmages and other games because again, you don't feel rushed to get through all the things you need to in a given hour. Quite frankly I guess I just don't see how giving kids MORE TIME at the rink can be negative at all?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:44 pm
by observer
Agree luvuvgame.

Think of any other sport and 2 hour practices are common. The other thing for the families is you've gone to the effort to get them together, which can be the hard part at certain ages and levels, why not take advantage and maybe schedule one fewer practice during the week. More hours and fewer sessions can be advantageous to everyone including coaches. Maybe even better retention on the player's part, mind and muscle, as things aren't as rushed.

Live and learn my friend.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:47 am
by BadgerBob82
Great points!