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Lets all rip on STA and Breck for being class A especially STA they have more guys then a lot of AA schools

HockeyGuy952 wrote:Lets all rip on STA and Breck for being class A especially STA they have more guys then a lot of AA schools

Don't they have all guys?

Well, I guess we're going ahead with this.

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Have at it.

I'll give this thread 2 days until its locked. Too many people within this forum cannot resist the urge to besmirch private schools and vice versa (public).

It's almost as bad as Democrats vs. Republicans, Red Sox vs. Yankees, Michigan vs. Ohio State, etc.

I hope I am proven wrong.

This one should be a long one.

Have I told you guys the story of the clown handing out Hill Murray balloons/candy at the District 2 Mite Jamboree?

What's the purpose behind private schools anyway?

MrBoDangles wrote:Have I told you guys the story of the clown handing out Hill Murray balloons/candy at the District 2 Mite Jamboree?

TTpuckster wrote:What's the purpose behind private schools anyway?

What's the purpose behind public schools anyway?

I for one have always been a private school hater. When playing in my younger days, they always scooped up the good players off your team. My feelings have kind of changed recently. Good players just as easily, and do regularly, open enroll (move) to other public schools where they think they have a better shot at whatever. With all this movement, it gives some kids that maybe wouldn't have a shot at their own varsity to make the team. I say bring in more private school teams, diluting the pool, more kids play, better for everyone. The one issue I have is when a school continues to dominate class A and refuse to move up (cough-STA-cough). MSHSL should look at those instances and force require move up to the higher class. Equally I believe they should also allow public schools that have not done so well to be able to move down a class.

no5hole wrote:I for one have always been a private school hater. When playing in my younger days, they always scooped up the good players off your team. My feelings have kind of changed recently. Good players just as easily, and do regularly, open enroll (move) to other public schools where they think they have a better shot at whatever. With all this movement, it gives some kids that maybe wouldn't have a shot at their own varsity to make the team. I say bring in more private school teams, diluting the pool, more kids play, better for everyone. The one issue I have is when a school continues to dominate class A and refuse to move up (cough-STA-cough). MSHSL should look at those instances and force require move up to the higher class. Equally I believe they should also allow public schools that have not done so well to be able to move down a class.

IF STA wants to stay in the minor leagues and win the show each year that's pretty sad compared to the joy & competition that comes from making it to, and playing in, the real big show - AA. It's like if Alabama wanted to drop down to Division II in football and win it every year - but win what? a second rate trophy? No offense, that's reality. I think it is sad for STA kids and fans that they are missing out.. Ask the STA players and I'm guessing that most would rather compete against the best.. Plus they would actually make a nice addition to section 4 so Hill Murray (my team) would have more competition than WBL to make it to state..

SSM & Northwood School (NY) compete in EL NIT Nov2-4 w/ MN White & Red.

Interesting to see how these two private national powers will do against Elite League All Star teams MN White & MN Red. (although both MN teams do have some private school kids on them as well. )

stpaul wrote:

TTpuckster wrote:What's the purpose behind private schools anyway?

What's the purpose behind public schools anyway?

to edjicate.

Private schools, I guess, want to do the same, but just for the rich or athletically privileged. Barring themselves, or shielding themselves, from the REAL world.

TTpuckster wrote:Private schools, I guess, want to do the same, but just for the rich or athletically privileged. Barring themselves, or shielding themselves, from the REAL world.

Your guess isn't completely wrong; however, it is inaccurate...

TTpuckster wrote:What's the purpose behind private schools anyway?

I know, really, private schools?
Come on, time to get Rid of them.

They are considering a separate State Tournament for all Private Schools in 2014.

OGEE OGELTHORPE wrote:They are considering a separate State Tournament for all Private Schools in 2014.

Won't happen.

They'll make all private schools play AA before that happens.

They need to put STA in AA they have 500 BOYS not just student but boys while someone like holy angels only has 750 students and half of that may be boys

OGEE OGELTHORPE wrote:They are considering a separate State Tournament for all Private Schools in 2014.

I hear it will be held at Fogerty North and you'll be able to hear it live on 970AM.

MrBoDangles wrote:

OGEE OGELTHORPE wrote:They are considering a separate State Tournament for all Private Schools in 2014.

I hear it will be held at Fogerty North and you'll be able to hear it live on 970AM.

And they are going to have two brackets, AA and A, so STA can still win the JV tournament.

Just playing hockey is getting too expensive. Only families who can afford private school will be able to afford hockey anyway. It's turning into a rich kids game.

sparty wrote:Just playing hockey is getting too expensive. Only families who can afford private school will be able to afford hockey anyway. It's turning into a rich kids game.

Judging by some of the comments, kinda like this forum........

OGEE OGELTHORPE wrote:They are considering a separate State Tournament for all Private Schools in 2014.

"They" are 6 guys on a message board.

PuckU126 wrote:

OGEE OGELTHORPE wrote:They are considering a separate State Tournament for all Private Schools in 2014.

Won't happen.

They'll make all private schools play AA before that happens.

Not a bad idea. It would be an interesting concept to make all the private schools play AA. The competition level in A would be significantly down. In my opinion, there are about 10 A schools that could compete competitively with most AA schools. Taking the private schools out of A would truly make A the JV game.