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Class A enrollment cap?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:37 pm
by WayOutWest
What is the enrollment cap for Class A?
St. Thomas Academy has more students than Benilde does, and they are all male? Should not the effective enrollment for all male schools be doubled?
Or did Benilde opt-up at some point?
Help me make some sense of this.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:38 pm
by Master Recruiter
Private schools in Class A does not make any sense at all.
Sorry I couldn't help you out
Re: Class A enrollment cap?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:39 pm
by pioneer83
WayOutWest wrote:What is the enrollment cap for Class A?
St. Thomas Academy has more students than Benilde does, and they are all male? Should not the effective enrollment for all male schools be doubled?
Or did Benilde opt-up at some point?
Help me make some sense of this.
Benile opts up.
Not sure the exact A cap but STA will probably soon be AA whether they want to or not, the doubling of their actual has them close.
Re: Class A enrollment cap?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:41 pm
by WayOutWest
pioneer83 wrote:WayOutWest wrote:What is the enrollment cap for Class A?
St. Thomas Academy has more students than Benilde does, and they are all male? Should not the effective enrollment for all male schools be doubled?
Or did Benilde opt-up at some point?
Help me make some sense of this.
Benile opts up.
Not sure the exact A cap but STA will probably soon be AA whether they want to or not, the doubling of their actual has them close.
MSHSL.org has STA enrollment at 1066. Doubling that puts them well above many AA schools. I'm guessing doubling isn't done.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:41 pm
by easton18
St. Thomas has more students than Benilde because they double STA's enrollment due to the fact that it's an all boys school. In reality they have like ~600 (not sure on the exact number) but it gets doubled when determining enrollment for class placement purposes.
Re: Class A enrollment cap?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:43 pm
by HShockeywatcher
pioneer83 wrote:WayOutWest wrote:What is the enrollment cap for Class A?
St. Thomas Academy has more students than Benilde does, and they are all male? Should not the effective enrollment for all male schools be doubled?
Or did Benilde opt-up at some point?
Help me make some sense of this.
Benile opts up.
Not sure the exact A cap but STA will probably soon be AA whether they want to or not, the doubling of their actual has them close.
Not that you can't find this in 10 other threads on the top page, but I believe the enrollment cut off is 1241, the enrollment of the smallest, non-opt up AA school, St Cloud Tech.
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/enrollments.asp?sort=2
St Thomas enrollment is 533, doubled to 1066.
Academy of Holy Angels, Benilde-St Margatet's, Cretin-Derham Hall, Hill-Murray, and Holy Family Catholic are the current private school opt ups.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:44 pm
by BobSaget
STA's actual enrollment is 533...
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:46 pm
by WayOutWest
BobSaget wrote:STA's actual enrollment is 533...
Got it. Thanks.
So MSHSL.org already shows it as doubled.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:49 pm
by puckstopper33
What is the largest public class A school?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:51 pm
by BobSaget
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STA
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:51 pm
by stpaul
STA has 560 in grades 9-12 this school year. I'm not sure that the MSHSL looks at it and moves schools every year.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:54 pm
by easton18
BobSaget wrote:puckstopper33 wrote:What is the largest public class A school?
According to the provided link...Wayzata at 3060
Wayzata's the largest public but they're AA. According to the link, the first school below the 1241 cutoff is Henry Sibley at 1201.
Mahtomedi
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:56 pm
by stpaul
Not sure if it's the largest A hockey school but Mahtomedi has 1149.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:59 pm
by shotpassskate
1201 Henry Sibley, Class A enrollment is 1-1274 and Class AA is 1275 and up. Any team below 1274 can opt up to play Class AA.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:15 pm
by BobSaget
easton18 wrote:BobSaget wrote:puckstopper33 wrote:What is the largest public class A school?
According to the provided link...Wayzata at 3060
Wayzata's the largest public but they're AA. According to the link, the first school below the 1241 cutoff is Henry Sibley at 1201.
Yeah, my bad. Misread that.
Re: STA
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:01 pm
by hockeydad
stpaul wrote:STA has 560 in grades 9-12 this school year. I'm not sure that the MSHSL looks at it and moves schools every year.
MSHSL takes the enrollment numbers in October every other year and revises sections and classes based on enrollment for two years. They take the largest 64 hockey programs, and the enrollment of the 64th team is the cutoff (note that cooperative programs use total enrollment of all schools involved. The MSHSL gave Le Sueur/St Peter etc. and New Ulm waivers to allow them to stay in Class A this year. Le Sueur got the waiver when the brought Montgomery-Lonsdale into the program a few years back and New Ulm got the waiver when they agreed to bring in the Sleepy Eye kids when that team disbanded last fall.
The current sections were announced last February after using the October, 2010 enrollment figures. They will be used again in the 2012-13 school year, and in October, they will get enrollment figures and start the process all over again for the 2013-14 and 14-15 seasons.
That is, of course, if the world doesn't end on December 21, 2012, when the Mayan calendar ends.

Re: STA
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:11 pm
by Teak
hockeydad wrote:stpaul wrote:STA has 560 in grades 9-12 this school year. I'm not sure that the MSHSL looks at it and moves schools every year.
The current sections were announced last February after using the October, 2010 enrollment figures. They will be used again in the 2012-13 school year, and in October, they will get enrollment figures and start the process all over again for the 2013-14 and 14-15 seasons.
That is, of course, if the world doesn't end on December 21, 2012, when the Mayan calendar ends.

The Mayan world ended a long time ago. Their calendar lasted longer than they did.
