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NEW WEBSITE LINK FOR LPH RANKINGS:

http://www.letsplayhockey.com/latest-ra ... chool.html

Will be posted in this thread...

Here is a link to last year:
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24305

http://www.letsplayhockey.com/1049rankings.pdf

AA

1. Minnetonka
2. Benilde-St. Margaret’s
3. Edina
4. Roseville Area
5. Hill-Murray
6. White Bear Lake
7. Stillwater Area
8. Eden Prairie
9. Elk River/Zimmerman
10. Lakeville South
11. Anoka
12. Lakeville North
13. North Wright County
14. Roseau
15. Coon Rapids
16. Wayzata
17. Eastview
18. Centennial
19. Rosemount
20. Buffalo


A

1 WARROAD
2 Breck
3 South St. Paul
4 Blake
5 Crookston
6 Red Wing
7 Chisago Lakes Area
8 Eveleth-Gilbert
9 Mound-Westonka
10 Orono
11 Thief River Falls
12 East Grand Forks
13 Hutchinson
14 Totino-Grace
15 Alexandria
16 Fergus Falls
17 Northfield
18 Mankato East/Loyola
19 Proctor/Hermantown
20 Mankato West

ghshockeyfan wrote: http://www.letsplayhockey.com/1049rankings.pdf

AA

1. Minnetonka
2. Benilde-St. Margaret’s
3. Edina
4. Roseville Area
5. Hill-Murray
6. White Bear Lake
7. Stillwater Area
8. Eden Prairie
9. Elk River/Zimmerman
10. Lakeville South
11. Anoka
12. Lakeville North
13. North Wright County
14. Roseau
15. Coon Rapids
16. Wayzata
17. Eastview
18. Centennial
19. Rosemount
20. Buffalo


A

1 WARROAD
2 Breck
3 South St. Paul
4 Blake
5 Crookston
6 Red Wing
7 Chisago Lakes Area
8 Eveleth-Gilbert
9 Mound-Westonka
10 Orono
11 Thief River Falls
12 East Grand Forks
13 Hutchinson
14 Totino-Grace
15 Alexandria
16 Fergus Falls
17 Northfield
18 Mankato East/Loyola
19 Proctor/Hermantown
20 Mankato West

A bit of controversy over this one... Apparently LPH had a mistake on the cover but was correct inside the paper:

They printed this incorrect list on the cover:

LPH incorrect cover ranking from last year wrote: A

1. Warroad
2. Breck
3. Blake
4. South St. Paul
5. Mound-Westonka
6. East Grand Forks
7. Red Wing
8. Crookston
9. Rogers
10. Alexandria
11. Totino-Grace
12. Chisago Lakes Area
13. Eveleth-Gilbert
14. Orono
15. Faribault
16. Visitation/SPA United
17. Morris/Benson Area
18. Simley
19. New Prague
20. Hutchinson

Also see related thread:
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27217

http://www.letsplayhockey.com/1050rankings.pdf

AA

1 MINNETONKA
2 Benilde-St. Margaret’s
3 Edina
4 Roseville
5 Hill-Murray
6 White Bear Lake
7 Stillwater
8 Eden Prairie
9 Elk River/Zimmerman
10 Lakeville South
11 Anoka
12 Lakeville North
13 North Wright County
14 Roseau
15 Coon Rapids
16 Wayzata
17 Eastview
18 Centennial
19 Rosemount
20 Buffalo


A

1 WARROAD
2 Breck
3 South St. Paul
4 Blake
5 Crookston
6 Red Wing
7 Chisago Lakes Area
8 Eveleth-Gilbert
9 Mound-Westonka
10 Orono
11 Thief River Falls
12 East Grand Forks
13 Hutchinson
14 Totino-Grace
15 Alexandria
16 Fergus Falls
17 Northfield
18 Mankato East/Loyola
19 Proctor/Hermantown
20 Mankato West

Those are wrong, new rankings came out.

http://www.letsplayhockey.com/1051rankings.pdf

AA

1 BENILDE-ST.MARGARET’S
2 Roseville
3 Edina
4 Minnetonka
5 Anoka
6 Stillwater
7 Hill-Murray
8 White Bear Lake
9 Elk River/Zimmerman
10 Eden Prairie
11 Lakeville South
12 North Wright County
13 Lakeville North
14 Wayzata
15 Roseau
16 Blaine
17 Eagan
18 Centennial
19 Buffalo
20 Hopkins


A

1 WARROAD
2 Breck
3 South St. Paul
4 Blake
5 Crookston
6 Red Wing
7 Chisago Lakes Area
8 Mound-Westonka
9 Orono
10 Thief River Falls
11 Eveleth-Gilbert
12 Hutchinson
13 East Grand Forks
14 Fergus Falls
15 Mankato East/Loyola
16 Visitation/SPA United
17 Proctor/Hermantown
18 Totino-Grace
19 Alexandria
20 Northfield

Tigers33 wrote:Those are wrong, new rankings came out.

You mean that rankings came out after the 10Nov version I posted I assume.

I was building the historical record with this thread.

The latest - 17Nov - are posted now (a minute after your post about this - I wasn't quick enough! )

http://www.letsplayhockey.com/1052rankings.pdf

AA (a bit of a typo with the numbering here for 5-9)

1 BENILDE-ST.MARGARET’S
2 Roseville
3 Minnetonka
4 Edina
6 (5?) Stillwater
7 (6?) Anoka
8 (7?) Hill-Murray
9 (8?) Elk River/Zimmerman
0 (9?) White Bear Lake
10 Eden Prairie
11 Lakeville South
12 Eagan
13 North Wright County
14 Wayzata
15 Lakeville North
16 Roseau
17 Blaine
18 Hopkins
19 Centennial
20 Buffalo


A

1 WARROAD
2 Breck
3 South St. Paul
4 Blake
5 Crookston
6 Red Wing
7 Mound-Westonka
8 Thief River Falls
9 Orono
10 Chisago Lakes Area
11 Visitation/SPA United
12 Mankato East/Loyola
13 Hutchinson
14 Totino-Grace
15 Proctor/Hermantown
16 East Grand Forks
17 Fergus Falls
18 Eveleth-Gilbert
19 Willmar
20 Mankato West

You can always find things to quibble about with these rankings, but here is one that makes you wonder. In Class A they have Crookston ranked #5 and Thief River Falls #8. But TRV's record is 4-0, including Tuesday's 7-0 spanking of Crookston, yet Crookston (now 1-2) is still being ranked higher?

I'm also a little surprised that they have Minnetonka ranked #3 in Class AA. No doubt they are an excellent team, but they now have two losses: to #7 Anoka and to #8 Hill-Murray. Problem is, based on each team's records to date, I don't know who I would put ahead of them...Edina maybe? We'll just have to wait to see how the Hornets do in their own tournament this weekend. First up on Friday will be #2A Breck, and if they manage to win that game they'll take on the winner of #1AA BSM and #4A Blake.

MNHockeyFan wrote:You can always find things to quibble about with these rankings, but here is one that makes you wonder. In Class A they have Crookston ranked #5 and Thief River Falls #8. But TRV's record is 4-0, including Tuesday's 7-0 spanking of Crookston, yet Crookston (now 1-2) is still being ranked higher?

I'm also a little surprised that they have Minnetonka ranked #3 in Class AA. No doubt they are an excellent team, but they now have two losses: to #7 Anoka and to #8 Hill-Murray. Problem is, based on each team's records to date, I don't know who I would put ahead of them...Edina maybe? We'll just have to wait to see how the Hornets do in their own tournament this weekend. First up on Friday will be #2A Breck, and if they manage to win that game they'll take on the winner of #1AA BSM and #4A Blake.

I'm guessing the ratings were compiled before Tuesday's results, since they are dated 11/23.

hockeydad wrote:I'm guessing the ratings were compiled before Tuesday's results, since they are dated 11/23.

Even though 11/23 is the day AFTER Tuesday's games, you're probably right. Normally LPH's rankings come out on Thursday, but apparently they compiled this week's a little earlier than normal due to the Holiday (probably so they could get this week's paper published in time). And the boys haven't played any games yet so those rankings wouldn't change...

http://www.letsplayhockey.com/1053rankings.pdf

AA

1 ROSEVILLE AREA
2 Benilde-St. Margaret’s
3 Hill-Murray
4 Edina
5 Minnetonka
6 Stillwater Area
7 Elk River/Zimmerman
8 White Bear Lake
9 Anoka
10 Lakeville South
11 Eagan
12 Lakeville North
13 Blaine
14 Roseau
15 Eden Prairie
16 North Wright County
17 Wayzata
18 Apple Valley
19 Hopkins
20 Irondale

A

1 WARROAD
2 Breck
3 South St. Paul
4 Blake
5 Mound-Westonka
6 Thief River Falls
7 Orono
8 Red Wing
9 Chisago Lakes Area
10 Mankato East/Loyola
11 Hutchinson
12 Visitation/SPA United
13 Crookston
14 East Grand Forks
15 Proctor/Hermantown
16 Mahtomedi
17 Totino-Grace
18 Willmar
19 Rogers
20 Northfield

Interesting how these differ from the one above, does the KRACH rating use statistics. If so, this is the one that should be posted and not one that does not really mean much.

CLASS AA RANKING (AS OF 12/1/2011 8:40:58 AM) 10-Nov 17-Nov 23-Nov
RK TEAM (LPH Rank as of 11/23) RECORD RATING
1 Blaine (17) 5-0-1 224.152 16 17
2 Hill-Murray (7) 4-1-0 221.150 5 7 7
3 Eagan (12) 5-0-0 185.104 17 12
4 Irondale 6-0-0 172.299
5 Edina (4) 4-1-1 145.457 3 3 4
6 Anoka (6) 4-1-0 133.855 11 5 6
7 Benilde-St. Margaret's (1) 3-1-0 120.122 2 1 1
8 Roseville (2) 3-0-0 102.067 4 2 2
9 Elk River/Zimmerman (8) 3-0-0 83.259 9 9 8
10 Minnetonka (3) 4-2-0 70.354 1 4 3
11 Stillwater Area (5) 4-1-0 59.756 7 6 5
12 Roseau (16) 3-1-1 52.868 14 15 16
13 White Bear Lake (9) 4-1-0 50.242 6 8 9
14 Lakeville South (11) 2-1-1 34.391 10 11 11
15 Buffalo (20) 3-0-1 32.246 20 19 20
16 Dodge County 4-0-0 31.044
17 Winona 2-0-0 29.559
18 Apple Valley 5-1-0 27.797
19 Andover 3-2-0 26.287
20 Lakeville North (15) 3-2-1 26.253

Nordic wrote:Interesting how these differ from the one above, does the KRACH rating use statistics. If so, this is the one that should be posted and not one that does not really mean much.

CLASS AA RANKING (AS OF 12/1/2011 8:40:58 AM) 10-Nov 17-Nov 23-Nov
RK TEAM (LPH Rank as of 11/23) RECORD RATING
1 Blaine (17) 5-0-1 224.152 16 17
2 Hill-Murray (7) 4-1-0 221.150 5 7 7
3 Eagan (12) 5-0-0 185.104 17 12
4 Irondale 6-0-0 172.299
5 Edina (4) 4-1-1 145.457 3 3 4
6 Anoka (6) 4-1-0 133.855 11 5 6
7 Benilde-St. Margaret's (1) 3-1-0 120.122 2 1 1
8 Roseville (2) 3-0-0 102.067 4 2 2
9 Elk River/Zimmerman (8) 3-0-0 83.259 9 9 8
10 Minnetonka (3) 4-2-0 70.354 1 4 3
11 Stillwater Area (5) 4-1-0 59.756 7 6 5
12 Roseau (16) 3-1-1 52.868 14 15 16
13 White Bear Lake (9) 4-1-0 50.242 6 8 9
14 Lakeville South (11) 2-1-1 34.391 10 11 11
15 Buffalo (20) 3-0-1 32.246 20 19 20
16 Dodge County 4-0-0 31.044
17 Winona 2-0-0 29.559
18 Apple Valley 5-1-0 27.797
19 Andover 3-2-0 26.287
20 Lakeville North (15) 3-2-1 26.253

Nice to see Irondale with the good start. BTW, who did Roseville lose to in last years playoffs?

Thanx for the posts all.

ghshockeyfan wrote:http://www.letsplayhockey.com/1053rankings.pdf

AA

1 ROSEVILLE AREA
2 Benilde-St. Margaret’s
3 Hill-Murray
4 Edina
5 Minnetonka
6 Stillwater Area
7 Elk River/Zimmerman
8 White Bear Lake
9 Anoka
10 Lakeville South
11 Eagan
12 Lakeville North
13 Blaine
14 Roseau
15 Eden Prairie
16 North Wright County
17 Wayzata
18 Apple Valley
19 Hopkins
20 Irondale

A

1 WARROAD
2 Breck
3 South St. Paul
4 Blake
5 Mound-Westonka
6 Thief River Falls
7 Orono
8 Red Wing
9 Chisago Lakes Area
10 Mankato East/Loyola
11 Hutchinson
12 Visitation/SPA United
13 Crookston
14 East Grand Forks
15 Proctor/Hermantown
16 Mahtomedi
17 Totino-Grace
18 Willmar
19 Rogers
20 Northfield

Interesting side note - wondering if it's ever happened before:

All 5 teams from Lake conference in the top 20? Now don't get me wrong I don't put much stock in early season rankings, but I can't imagine that all teams in one conference are ranked at the same time.

allhoc11 wrote:

ghshockeyfan wrote:http://www.letsplayhockey.com/1053rankings.pdf

AA

1 ROSEVILLE AREA
2 Benilde-St. Margaret’s
3 Hill-Murray
4 Edina
5 Minnetonka
6 Stillwater Area
7 Elk River/Zimmerman
8 White Bear Lake
9 Anoka
10 Lakeville South
11 Eagan
12 Lakeville North
13 Blaine
14 Roseau
15 Eden Prairie
16 North Wright County
17 Wayzata
18 Apple Valley
19 Hopkins
20 Irondale

A

1 WARROAD
2 Breck
3 South St. Paul
4 Blake
5 Mound-Westonka
6 Thief River Falls
7 Orono
8 Red Wing
9 Chisago Lakes Area
10 Mankato East/Loyola
11 Hutchinson
12 Visitation/SPA United
13 Crookston
14 East Grand Forks
15 Proctor/Hermantown
16 Mahtomedi
17 Totino-Grace
18 Willmar
19 Rogers
20 Northfield

Interesting side note - wondering if it's ever happened before:

All 5 teams from Lake conference in the top 20? Now don't get me wrong I don't put much stock in early season rankings, but I can't imagine that all teams in one conference are ranked at the same time.

Very interesting... Not as shocking based on the size and/or affluence and/or hockey history of those schools though IMHO.

Nordic wrote:Interesting how these differ from the one above, does the KRACH rating use statistics. If so, this is the one that should be posted and not one that does not really mean much.

CLASS AA RANKING (AS OF 12/1/2011 8:40:58 AM) 10-Nov 17-Nov 23-Nov
RK TEAM (LPH Rank as of 11/23) RECORD RATING
1 Blaine (17) 5-0-1 224.152 16 17
2 Hill-Murray (7) 4-1-0 221.150 5 7 7
3 Eagan (12) 5-0-0 185.104 17 12
4 Irondale 6-0-0 172.299
5 Edina (4) 4-1-1 145.457 3 3 4
6 Anoka (6) 4-1-0 133.855 11 5 6
7 Benilde-St. Margaret's (1) 3-1-0 120.122 2 1 1
8 Roseville (2) 3-0-0 102.067 4 2 2
9 Elk River/Zimmerman (8) 3-0-0 83.259 9 9 8
10 Minnetonka (3) 4-2-0 70.354 1 4 3
11 Stillwater Area (5) 4-1-0 59.756 7 6 5
12 Roseau (16) 3-1-1 52.868 14 15 16
13 White Bear Lake (9) 4-1-0 50.242 6 8 9
14 Lakeville South (11) 2-1-1 34.391 10 11 11
15 Buffalo (20) 3-0-1 32.246 20 19 20
16 Dodge County 4-0-0 31.044
17 Winona 2-0-0 29.559
18 Apple Valley 5-1-0 27.797
19 Andover 3-2-0 26.287
20 Lakeville North (15) 3-2-1 26.253

Only one that matters is the end of season and who wins the last game. Everything else is just people with a lot of free time.

Nostalgic Nerd wrote:

Nordic wrote:Interesting how these differ from the one above, does the KRACH rating use statistics. If so, this is the one that should be posted and not one that does not really mean much.

CLASS AA RANKING (AS OF 12/1/2011 8:40:58 AM) 10-Nov 17-Nov 23-Nov
RK TEAM (LPH Rank as of 11/23) RECORD RATING
1 Blaine (17) 5-0-1 224.152 16 17
2 Hill-Murray (7) 4-1-0 221.150 5 7 7
3 Eagan (12) 5-0-0 185.104 17 12
4 Irondale 6-0-0 172.299
5 Edina (4) 4-1-1 145.457 3 3 4
6 Anoka (6) 4-1-0 133.855 11 5 6
7 Benilde-St. Margaret's (1) 3-1-0 120.122 2 1 1
8 Roseville (2) 3-0-0 102.067 4 2 2
9 Elk River/Zimmerman (8) 3-0-0 83.259 9 9 8
10 Minnetonka (3) 4-2-0 70.354 1 4 3
11 Stillwater Area (5) 4-1-0 59.756 7 6 5
12 Roseau (16) 3-1-1 52.868 14 15 16
13 White Bear Lake (9) 4-1-0 50.242 6 8 9
14 Lakeville South (11) 2-1-1 34.391 10 11 11
15 Buffalo (20) 3-0-1 32.246 20 19 20
16 Dodge County 4-0-0 31.044
17 Winona 2-0-0 29.559
18 Apple Valley 5-1-0 27.797
19 Andover 3-2-0 26.287
20 Lakeville North (15) 3-2-1 26.253

Nice to see Irondale with the good start. BTW, who did Roseville lose to in last years playoffs?

Thanx for the posts all.

Not sure on Roseville in the playoffs last year... Hmm... I'm sure another poster on here would know the answer to this though.

KRACH only looks at record and opponents records. So - win by 20 or 1 and a win is a win is a win I guess. No goal differential or other algorithmic implications tied to stats. Note that I don't think KRACH is entirely accurate yet. There are some teams ranked a little too high based on not playing too strong of a scheudle yet. Once those teams see a tougher SOS, then we'll see how things shake-out. Overall ranking wise, I think this is true for some of the class A teams without enough AA or tougher opponent cross-over yet. In time...

Gov78 wrote:

Nordic wrote:Interesting how these differ from the one above, does the KRACH rating use statistics. If so, this is the one that should be posted and not one that does not really mean much.

CLASS AA RANKING (AS OF 12/1/2011 8:40:58 AM) 10-Nov 17-Nov 23-Nov
RK TEAM (LPH Rank as of 11/23) RECORD RATING
1 Blaine (17) 5-0-1 224.152 16 17
2 Hill-Murray (7) 4-1-0 221.150 5 7 7
3 Eagan (12) 5-0-0 185.104 17 12
4 Irondale 6-0-0 172.299
5 Edina (4) 4-1-1 145.457 3 3 4
6 Anoka (6) 4-1-0 133.855 11 5 6
7 Benilde-St. Margaret's (1) 3-1-0 120.122 2 1 1
8 Roseville (2) 3-0-0 102.067 4 2 2
9 Elk River/Zimmerman (8) 3-0-0 83.259 9 9 8
10 Minnetonka (3) 4-2-0 70.354 1 4 3
11 Stillwater Area (5) 4-1-0 59.756 7 6 5
12 Roseau (16) 3-1-1 52.868 14 15 16
13 White Bear Lake (9) 4-1-0 50.242 6 8 9
14 Lakeville South (11) 2-1-1 34.391 10 11 11
15 Buffalo (20) 3-0-1 32.246 20 19 20
16 Dodge County 4-0-0 31.044
17 Winona 2-0-0 29.559
18 Apple Valley 5-1-0 27.797
19 Andover 3-2-0 26.287
20 Lakeville North (15) 3-2-1 26.253

Only one that matters is the end of season and who wins the last game. Everything else is just people with a lot of free time.

Amen to this comment! That's kind of how all of us are perceived on this forum I guess.

The thing that I love best is that in the end it is all decided on the rink - and that's the way it should be. You play the game on the ice; not on paper, by rankings, online, or elsewhere.

ghshockeyfan wrote:Not sure on Roseville in the playoffs last year... Hmm... I'm sure another poster on here would know the answer to this though.

Roseville lost to HM in the section finals last year. I believe only the 2nd time HM had ever beaten them. As I said in the other thread, Irondale is ranked way too low by LPH, Tonka too high and they have Anoka ahead of undefeated Blaine who beat them. Breck would be the easy #1 in AA if they were in AA.

Sparlimb wrote:

ghshockeyfan wrote:Not sure on Roseville in the playoffs last year... Hmm... I'm sure another poster on here would know the answer to this though.

Roseville lost to HM in the section finals last year. I believe only the 2nd time HM had ever beaten them. As I said in the other thread, Irondale is ranked way too low by LPH, Tonka too high and they have Anoka ahead of undefeated Blaine who beat them. Breck would be the easy #1 in AA if they were in AA.

Agreed on Breck.

http://www.letsplayhockey.com/1054rankings.pdf

AA
1. Roseville Area (7), 2. Hill-Murray (1), 3. Benilde-St. Margaret’s (2), 4. Minnetonka, 5. Edina, 6. Stillwater Area, 7. Elk River-Zimmerman, 8. Ankoa, 9. Blaine, 10. White Bear Lake, 11. Eagan, 12. Lakeville North, 13. Irondale, 14. Lakeville South, 15. Roseau, 16. Wayzata, 17. Apple Valley, 18. Hopkins, 19. Dodge County, 20. Eden Prairie

A
1. Breck (7), 2. Warroad (3), 3. South St. Paul, 4. Mound-Westonka, 5. Thief River Falls, 6. Blake, 7. Orono, 8. Red Wing, 9. Chisago Lakes Area, 10. Mankato East-Loyola, 11. Hutchinson, 12. Visitation-SPA United, 13. EGF Senior High, 14. Crookston, 15. Proctor-Hermantown, 16. Mahtomedia, 17. Rogers, 18. Totino-Grace, 19. Willmar, 20. Northfield

Sparlimb wrote:

ghshockeyfan wrote:Not sure on Roseville in the playoffs last year... Hmm... I'm sure another poster on here would know the answer to this though.

Roseville lost to HM in the section finals last year. I believe only the 2nd time HM had ever beaten them. As I said in the other thread, Irondale is ranked way too low by LPH, Tonka too high and they have Anoka ahead of undefeated Blaine who beat them. Breck would be the easy #1 in AA if they were in AA.

I beg to differ, I like Rosevilles chances against them...Very fun team to watch!!

Hansonbrother wrote:

Sparlimb wrote:

ghshockeyfan wrote:Not sure on Roseville in the playoffs last year... Hmm... I'm sure another poster on here would know the answer to this though.

Roseville lost to HM in the section finals last year. I believe only the 2nd time HM had ever beaten them. As I said in the other thread, Irondale is ranked way too low by LPH, Tonka too high and they have Anoka ahead of undefeated Blaine who beat them. Breck would be the easy #1 in AA if they were in AA.

I beg to differ, I like Rosevilles chances against them...Very fun team to watch!!

I saw Roseville for the first time against Park. Roseville is very impressive. They are for real and will be a tough team to beat. Too bad they haven't played any of the top teams.

iceage wrote:

Hansonbrother wrote:

Sparlimb wrote: Roseville lost to HM in the section finals last year. I believe only the 2nd time HM had ever beaten them. As I said in the other thread, Irondale is ranked way too low by LPH, Tonka too high and they have Anoka ahead of undefeated Blaine who beat them. Breck would be the easy #1 in AA if they were in AA.

I beg to differ, I like Rosevilles chances against them...Very fun team to watch!!

I saw Roseville for the first time against Park. Roseville is very impressive. They are for real and will be a tough team to beat. Too bad they haven't played any of the top teams.

Can't argue 4AA is the toughest section again. Still ahs 4 teams rated in the top 10. Whomever comes out of the section will be a solid squad.