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With USA Hockey making the rule of No checking at peewee hockey are girls registering to play at that level and if so why? What happens to the boys that are cut or demoted down?, Whats going on out in the real world NOT the world of USA hockey experts.

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whockeyguy wrote:With USA Hockey making the rule of No checking at peewee hockey are girls registering to play at that level and if so why? What happens to the boys that are cut or demoted down?, Whats going on out in the real world NOT the world of USA hockey experts.

Whys:

1. Sometimes it's finally an opportunity to run away from families you don't like.
2. Maybe there's no A team so it provides a nice option.
3. Maybe it's better competition.

What Happens to Boys:

They get bummed out that a girl beat them out and hopefully work harder in the future to be an even better hockey player. It's all good.

And, the boys get to play with the best players at that time even if they are a girl. It's all good.

I've also heard from my good friend at the Made that some girls are going to the Choice League with no fear of the checking.

But what happens when a bunch come to play at peewee and then an association decides to move players to make two or three teams and now you have a team of 8 girls and 4or 5 boys playing,, will these boys continue to play or quit -------what would your son do?

whockeyguy wrote:But what happens when a bunch come to play at peewee and then an association decides to move players to make two or three teams and now you have a team of 8 girls and 4or 5 boys playing,, will these boys continue to play or quit -------what would your son do?

That would suck. I suppose I'd call Minnesota Made if I were one of those boys, Choice League.

whockeyguy wrote:But what happens when a bunch come to play at peewee and then an association decides to move players to make two or three teams and now you have a team of 8 girls and 4or 5 boys playing,, will these boys continue to play or quit -------what would your son do?

Good grief! What would happen if an asteroid were hurtling toward the earth?!? Why would there ever be 8 girls playing peewee hockey? Why would it ever be that they would all end up on the same team? Why would someone ask such a question just to rile up a bunch of boy parents about the possibility of a girl or two playing peewee hockey?

InigoMontoya wrote:

whockeyguy wrote:But what happens when a bunch come to play at peewee and then an association decides to move players to make two or three teams and now you have a team of 8 girls and 4or 5 boys playing,, will these boys continue to play or quit -------what would your son do?

Good grief! What would happen if an asteroid were hurtling toward the earth?!? Why would there ever be 8 girls playing peewee hockey? Why would it ever be that they would all end up on the same team? Why would someone ask such a question just to rile up a bunch of boy parents about the possibility of a girl or two playing peewee hockey?

And how many squirt teams are composed of 8 girls and 4-5 boys. None that I'm aware of.

Dear IM this is actually triing to take place, the girls dont have a goalie, so they want to play with the peewees, but that means the peewees would have to make up another team due to numbers at their level and that is where the it would make up 5-8 girls and a couple of boys unless a few of the girls could make an A Peewee team,, Possible but doubtfull

whockeyguy wrote:Dear IM this is actually triing to take place, the girls dont have a goalie, so they want to play with the peewees, but that means the peewees would have to make up another team due to numbers at their level and that is where the it would make up 5-8 girls and a couple of boys unless a few of the girls could make an A Peewee team,, Possible but doubtfull

That is a completely different situation. It's not about a couple parents thinking their daughter would be better served by playing with the increased speed of the peewee A game, now more inviting since checking (not contact, but checking) has been removed from peewees. It's about an association that has not had the forethought over 4 years of mites and 2 years of 10U to develop a goalie. NOW I feel bad for you. Unfortunately, if your development team has been asleep at the wheel for the last 6 years, I don't see that problem getting fixed in the next 6 days. What did your 12U softball team do when they realized they didn't have a pitcher?

Another aspect of the issue is with associations that have numbers issues for girls, lose some to the pee wee team, and now there is barely enough players for a girls team.

All it needs is a good lawyer to represent a boy that would get cut or demoted, If any one needs one contact Bernie @ Mn Made , im sure he could give a good reference for one

Stillwater is proudly losing zero girls to the Pee Wee's at 12U. Fortunately for us we have good numbers and our girls are all girlfriends away from the rink and do more than just hockey, so playing with a smelly boys team versus hanging with your girlfriends is not appealling.

jancze5 wrote:Stillwater is proudly losing zero girls to the Pee Wee's at 12U. Fortunately for us we have good numbers and our girls are all girlfriends away from the rink and do more than just hockey, so playing with a smelly boys team versus hanging with your girlfriends is not appealling.

I don't believe, nor did I hear any talk of Blaine, Centennial, Coon Rapids/Irondale, Roseville, or Spring Lake Park losing any 12U skaters to PW's either. However, there might be a few goalies that have switched. There's one at Centennial – would’ve been a 2nd year 12U, but last year’s A-team goalie is also returning.

I believe part of the reason why girls are staying at 12U is due to AAA programs. Only the top girls would remotely think of moving to PW, correct? Many top girls play on AAA teams. As you stated, when you have good numbers, and the girls are friends on and off the ice, they stay in 12U. On top of that, these top players have made friendships with other girls from different associations. They love competing with each other in the summer and against each other in the winter. At least I know that’s the case with my daughter of the past couple years.

By the way, our A-PW team just had their first outside refereed scrimmage. Our coach said there were 20+ checking penalties called (along with the regular number of calls). There was zero flow to the game. If it were a real game, they would have had 5 minutes to play the 3rd period. I’m all for safety, but is this how the early games will be called? If so, I bet there will be more than a few teams out loosing many of their "fair play" points. Coaches beware.

Eden Prairie PW A and B rosters are posted. I see two girls listed (1 B1, 1 B2) which is the same number we usually have playing PW. I can't find any information about C.

Right or wrong I've heard a few pee wee coaches letting parents of girls that were going to try out know that there would be checking in practice.

Right or wrong that there would be checking in a peewee practice?
Right or wrong that a coach would let parents know that?

InigoMontoya wrote:Right or wrong that there would be checking in a peewee practice?
Right or wrong that a coach would let parents know that?

Quick answers: Right, and Right.

Longer answer: "Though not allowed in games, coaches will be asked to introduce and teach full body checking techniques in every practice during the two Peewee years. We believe this to be a better solution than what we often times see today as a single weekend 'introduction to checking' clinic. The proposal is to provide players two years to acquire the necessary checking skills in a safer environment."
http://www.caha.com/docs/CAHAHome/QandA ... oposal.pdf

Even longer answer: http://www.usahockey.com/Template_Usaho ... &id=305004

and

http://www.usahockey.com/Template_Usaho ... 01&ID=3158

So...we're gonna teach 'em to check in practice, then penalize 'em for doing it in games? What genius came up with that strategy? Will we see any games with full 3rd periods this year?

Will we see any games with full 3rd periods this year?

I don't agree with the rule change but, ultimately, there should be fewer penalties without checking.

Right or wrong that a coach would "inform" girls that there will be full checking in practice to discourage them from trying out for a boys team.

flpucknut wrote:Right or wrong that a coach would "inform" girls that there will be full checking in practice to discourage them from trying out for a boys team.

I don't think I'm understanding. There is NOT going to be checking; he's only "informing" the girls of that so they won't tryout?

A couple questions:
Did he also "inform" the boys?
Were the girls in fact "discouraged"?

InigoMontoya wrote:

flpucknut wrote:Right or wrong that a coach would "inform" girls that there will be full checking in practice to discourage them from trying out for a boys team.

I don't think I'm understanding. There is NOT going to be checking; he's only "informing" the girls of that so they won't tryout?

A couple questions:
Did he also "inform" the boys?
Were the girls in fact "discouraged"?

I think it would have been "Right" if the coach told all of the potential Peewee players and their parents that they planned to start teaching checking in practice. I think it would have been 'Wrong" if the Pewee coach only said that to the girls and their parents to scare them away.

One of the reasons that some girls have had success at PeeWee over the years is because at that age many of the top girls are the ones that have matured early and often are bigger and stronger than the boys the same age. That changes at Bantam when the boys catch up with their maturity.

To be honest, I don't know why they were told, and this is not in my association. My friends daughter was thinking about trying out for Pee Wees and the coach sent all the girls parents an email reminding them that there would be full checking in practice which is OK under USA hockey rules.

My buddies girl decided NOT to try out for Pee Wees. Whether she was intimidated, or not or whether that was his actual intent in the first place is still a mystery.

In fairness to the coach, he may have had the best interest of those girls in mind. There has been quite a bit of confusion on this issue; perhaps he just wanted to make sure the girls (and parents) knew what they were getting into. If a whole flock of them were headed to peewees, when in the past there were very few, then he may have done the right thing to educate the girls about the reality of the upcoming season. Or he may be a dink that doesn't like girls in his peewee program - I don't know.