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I started a new thread that deserves consideration. The copy is from another post I just posted. I have several points I would like to make and anyone who can direct them into the right person to answer I would appreciate. Or answer on your own and rip me...I can take it.,

Proctor played the Duluth Lakers in first round of District 11 playoffs. Proctor won this game 4-3 in O.T. It was a good game by the players on both teams...but as it turns out was extremely poorly officiated. Proctor followed all officials mandates. Turns out the next day the Lakers found a loop hole in the Rule Book that allowed them to "win" the game on paper by forfeit, by a rule that was allowed during the game by the in game officials.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:06 pm Post subject: Proctor Clarification Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post
To clarify redlights post regarding Proctor: Lakers coach did question the officials how many penalties the player in question had. The officials response was four penalties and the officials allowed the player to continue to play. After the game the officials realized a scorebook error. Lakers did a protest the next day and the ruling went in their favor. Proctor has filed a protest of the protest. The final outcome of games should be decided on the ice. In this game Proctor followed all the rules of the on ice officials and they won the game. It is sad that the Lakers took it upon themselves to decide the game off of the ice in an obscure rule that may have been misinterpreted for this scenario.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:13 pm Post subject:
Proctor had a player get 5 penalties in the game. Lakers coach questioned how many penalties the player had when he got his 5th. Proctor player continued to play and scored a couple goals (including game winner at the time). It turned into quite the mess. Refs made phone calls to at least district after game and game was let stand. At 1:30 today (do not know how far it got district/state) call was reversed and Proctor forfeited.
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Nothing new about this "loop hole" as you call it. It's been a rule for as long as I can remember. It may be frustrating, but neither of these teams were going to make it out of the District anyway.

The handbook states: "Enforcing this penalty is the joint responsibility of the referees, scorekeeper, coach, and the player."

I'd like to have a look at that scoresheet...

Sounds like it was quite a game.

7A22A wrote:Nothing new about this "loop hole" as you call it. It's been a rule for as long as I can remember. It may be frustrating, but neither of these teams were going to make it out of the District anyway.

for all anybody knows, the player and the coaches might have though he only had 4 penalties. If the refs/scorekeeper didn't say anything and Let the kid keep playing they shouldn't be able to call a forfeit the next day. And no, I have no connections with either team, just an outside opinion.

codemanh wrote:

7A22A wrote:Nothing new about this "loop hole" as you call it. It's been a rule for as long as I can remember. It may be frustrating, but neither of these teams were going to make it out of the District anyway.

for all anybody knows, the player and the coaches might have though he only had 4 penalties. If the refs/scorekeeper didn't say anything and Let the kid keep playing they shouldn't be able to call a forfeit the next day. And no, I have no connections with either team, just an outside opinion.

I was not there and could care less what outcome happened. Others involved would have to give their opinion on what actually happened. Including who was running the books, coaches, refs etc... as commented on above. My comment and interest is solely based on the rule. If a player played the entire duration of a season or just one period as an ineligible player, I would be fine with following the rule book and making the correct decision, after the fact. And "yes", someone on or associated with the team usually knows whats really going on. I don't see how either side wins in this type of situation (especially the kids), but "common sense" tells me there is more to this story.