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are associations required to disclose the names of non-parent coaches to the general populace?

Pudda_Puck_In_Her_Ear wrote:are associations required to disclose the names of non-parent coaches to the general populace?

I would suspect so. If by general populace you mean the members of their association. Why would they not want to?

yes, general populace = association members.

I've heard of two stories now where the NPC being brought in to "A" level, both teams squirt level in different associations and districts.

Neither opening was posted on either website, and neither of the "hirings" were posted as of this morning on the association's websites.

Personally, if my son was in one of these associations ... I'd exercise my "CHOICE" and skate for MMH this season.

As I have no horse in this race, I'm more curious as to the letter of the law, not the underhanded moves by either association to mislead the public.

hotsauce wrote:I would suspect so. If by general populace you mean the members of their association. Why would they not want to?

to my knowledge, both of the "hirings" have suspect reputations as far as player development and the like.

Just looking for a "letter of the law" explaination and not ranting diatribes here!

If anyone knows where I could find this information I'll even do the leg work myself!

Pudda_Puck_In_Her_Ear wrote:

hotsauce wrote:I would suspect so. If by general populace you mean the members of their association. Why would they not want to?

to my knowledge, both of the "hirings" have suspect reputations as far as player development and the like.

Just looking for a "letter of the law" explaination and not ranting diatribes here!

If anyone knows where I could find this information I'll even do the leg work myself!

I would start with the By Laws, check the website most have the By Laws posted. It will most likely say the board or a sub committee is responsible for the selection of coaches. I doubt it will have any notice requirements around the process or even really the selection itself. Not always easy to fill NPC spots even if they are paid very few would end up even at minimum wage when you factor mileage and the hours that go into it.

The few times I have been through the selection process it involved a bunch of begging to get someone to do "one more season". We didn't have 20 applicants to sort through in fact we didn't have one applicant. That is something most people off the board never see, ever called someone with a 6 figure salary and tried them to get to take on a part time night job at less than min wage with a group that will need to overachieve to have a 500 season. Plus you get the fun of people sitting in the stands or in chat rooms questioning everything you do.

Good luck, might want to cut the coach a little bit of slack. Every year you coach you tend to get better at it. With parent support and motivated kids they might end up being much better than the rumors your hearing. Flip side if they have things like a criminal history or have ever put a players safety at risk make sure your board knows about it.

I would suspect the associations went through a hiring process. If these associations were able to get non parents that are motivated enough to coach squirts that's great. Are these teams in your district or what is your motivation to do "leg work" to check on other associations? If you have the time I'm sure my association could use an "audit" wink*

Pudda_Puck_In_Her_Ear wrote:are associations required to disclose the names of non-parent coaches to the general populace?

Most boards discuss coaches at the board meetings prior to the season, maybe July, August, September. But then you would have to go to the meeting. If you don't know when the meeting is, I bet you can find out with a quick phone call.

Most boards would LOVE to have someone come to a meeting or two... if you show up often enough they might ask you to help.

Pudda_Puck_In_Her_Ear wrote:are associations required to disclose the names of non-parent coaches to the general populace?

did you ever follow through with the leg work. What did you find out? What association were these. I'd like to see how their winter goes with these coaches

nope, never did. lost interest as it is not my kiddos

Pudda_Puck_In_Her_Ear wrote:yes, general populace = association members.

I've heard of two stories now where the NPC being brought in to "A" level, both teams squirt level in different associations and districts.

Neither opening was posted on either website, and neither of the "hirings" were posted as of this morning on the association's websites.

Personally, if my son was in one of these associations ... I'd exercise my "CHOICE" and skate for MMH this season.

As I have no horse in this race, I'm more curious as to the letter of the law, not the underhanded moves by either association to mislead the public.

I Know that the Burnsville Hockey club Chose a non parent coach this year and it was a Choice late in the process. We got a quality young coach that we have a ton of confidence in. We did have a qualified Parent coach but opted to try to get a long term committed coach at this level to gain consistency in the program. We have been looking for a non parent at the A squirt level for along time and finally found what we think is a good fit. No Back door "goings on " in this case and we think It will be a great season for the Burnsville team. We now are unique in having a non parent at all levels Squirt Peewee and Bantam at the a level.

Pudda_Puck_In_Her_Ear wrote:yes, general populace = association members.

I've heard of two stories now where the NPC being brought in to "A" level, both teams squirt level in different associations and districts.

Neither opening was posted on either website, and neither of the "hirings" were posted as of this morning on the association's websites.

Personally, if my son was in one of these associations ... I'd exercise my "CHOICE" and skate for MMH this season.

As I have no horse in this race, I'm more curious as to the letter of the law, not the underhanded moves by either association to mislead the public.

There likely is no underhanded moves to mislead the public. Settle down. Coaches who coach under USA hockey, as all associates of minnesota hockey are, have to sign a waiver saying that they among other things aren't fellons, aren't guilty of or under investigation for any crime haveing to do with a minor, or crime period.. the waiver gives the right of USA hockey to background check...which i assume they likely do to some extent.
As a player not long ago, we never knew who our coaches were untill tryouts.