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State of Denial?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:51 am
by WhosPuckIsItAnyways?
Hey, I found some red meat for you guys ... Enjoy!
"If the nickname (State of Hockey) was taken on as a claim that it (Minnesota) is the #1 State in the country when it comes to production, development, success and championships... then it might be time for Minnesota to admit defeat. Judging from the evidence, these days the real State of Hockey is Massachusetts. "
http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/201 ... o-hum.html

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:53 am
by MrBoDangles
Simply funny being that there are so few Mass kids on the states college teams. I know that HS hockey is shrinking out there at an alarming rate. Let them be proud about their college teams I guess.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:47 pm
by spin-o-rama
Very selective reasoning.
They could make a similar argument that the US is the country of hockey based on Canada only having 1 Stanley Cup in the last 20 years.
The article will only fool people who are naive.

Decline

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:45 pm
by Cut Above
I think we'll continue to see a decline in hockey nationally. The many distraction kids have now, the expense, kids not playing outside, competition w/ other sports which are now all year round are contributing to this.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:45 pm
by O-townClown
An "impact player" has to have FIVE HUNDRED career points in the NHL! Joel Otto had 508, so basically he's the lowest you can be and be considered an impact player. In his 14 year career he was considered an excellent two-way player and was usually assigned to Mark Messier when the Flames played the Oilers. That's a pretty high standard!

Darby Hendrickson score 129 in what is basically 8 full NHL seasons and parts of several others, just for comparison.

Minnesota's top college team may not have won all the NCAA tournaments, but the state sends players to all of the WCHA and several other D1 programs too. In the words of a friend, California supplies the football players for almost all of the Pac 10, plus a slew other other schools west of the Mississippi.

Minnesotans don't equate pro success to being "the state of hockey". Kids play and several do well no matter the measure. Not sure they needed to gerrymander an argument to say something other than Minnesota, but they did. No idea who they are, so it isn't anything to be bothered about.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:06 am
by O-townClown
Forgot to mention that a points threshhold eliminates almost all defensemen and definitely all goaltenders. Somehow Housley, a very offensive blueliner, leads the list. Amazing!

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:51 am
by hockeyfan893
I think that most Minnesotan hockey fans would agree with me when I say that we call ourselves the State of Hockey not based on the statistics of the very lucky, very fortunate few that play professional hockey, but rather the passion and support for the game held by all of us; players, fans, parents and coaches alike, for every level of the game, from mite youth hockey all the way up to our professional team.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:23 am
by muckandgrind
hockeyfan893 wrote:I think that most Minnesotan hockey fans would agree with me when I say that we call ourselves the State of Hockey not based on the statistics of the very lucky, very fortunate few that play professional hockey, but rather the passion and support for the game held by all of us; players, fans, parents and coaches alike, for every level of the game, from mite youth hockey all the way up to our professional team.
We call ourselves the "State of Hockey" because the Minnesota Wild marketing department came up with that catchy slogan about 10 years ago.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:30 am
by O-townClown
muckandgrind wrote: We call ourselves the "State of Hockey" because the Minnesota Wild marketing department came up with that catchy slogan about 10 years ago.
Because "Hockeytown" was taken in the mid-90s when the Red Wings marketing department did the same.

I'm presently sitting in Hockeypalm and my son soon has a game at Hockeybeach. I'm really looking forward to February when the tournament is in the County of Hockey.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:58 pm
by hockeyfan893
[quote="muckandgrind"][quote="hockeyfan893"]I think that most Minnesotan hockey fans would agree with me when I say that we call ourselves the State of Hockey not based on the statistics of the very lucky, very fortunate few that play professional hockey, but rather the passion and support for the game held by all of us; players, fans, parents and coaches alike, for every level of the game, from mite youth hockey all the way up to our professional team.[/quote]

We call ourselves the "State of Hockey" because the Minnesota Wild marketing department came up with that catchy slogan about 10 years ago.[/quote]

I stand corrected. You're right, that's where the slogan originated from. But I think that it has developed into something less meant as a marketing slogan for our pro team, and become something that Minnesotans identify with.

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:26 pm
by StillAnEagle
muckandgrind wrote:
hockeyfan893 wrote:I think that most Minnesotan hockey fans would agree with me when I say that we call ourselves the State of Hockey not based on the statistics of the very lucky, very fortunate few that play professional hockey, but rather the passion and support for the game held by all of us; players, fans, parents and coaches alike, for every level of the game, from mite youth hockey all the way up to our professional team.
We call ourselves the "State of Hockey" because the Minnesota Wild marketing department came up with that catchy slogan about 10 years ago.
lol and and good job they did! I think Howard Stern is the self proclaimed king of media - and that stuck too unfortunately...