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Minnesota Made AAA Teams
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:52 pm
by lkool
Minnesota made has 4 AAA teams listed. What differentiates one from the other, are they organized by skill level, or philosophy, or what?
Machine Boys
Snipers
Team Torspo
Minnesota Force
Thanks,
Re: Minnesota Made AAA Teams
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:25 pm
by codemanh
lkool wrote:Minnesota made has 4 AAA teams listed. What differentiates one from the other, are they organized by skill level, or philosophy, or what?
Machine Boys
Snipers
Team Torspo
Minnesota Force
Thanks,
They are ranked teams. last year it was
best team: machine
Second best: deuce
Third best: snipers
fourth best: Grinders
however, since they changed a couple of team names all i know is that the machine is the top team.
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:16 pm
by muckandgrind
I think the Duece is now Torspo.
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:21 pm
by HockeyDad41
I pulled this off the web page. If you want an explanation of the teams and name changes for the Deuce and Grinders, I would recommend giving Craig Johnson over there a call. Seems like a very nice guy and is pleasant on the phone.
At Minnesota Made Hockey we set our goals high. Over the last 17 years of coaching young athletes we have seen over and over again, if you start with a young enough player who has good (not even great) athletic ability and a strong drive to achieve. Combine this with enough ice time and high repetition skill training, they can accomplish great things. With the right commitment we can help these young athletes reach their goals and do things that others can only dream about.
The question is, are you willing to make the commitment?
AAA CLUBS
Our first AAA team was the called The Minnesota 88s, the team was made up of players born in 1988. Over the seven years that the team was together the focus was on high repetition skill training, very little systems and we only competed in tournaments. By the time the 88s reached draft age, 8 of them were drafted by NHL teams. After the 88s had run their course we started a '96 team called the Minnesota Machine. With the same development strategy and focus as with 88s,“The Machine” quickly became one of the top '96 teams in North America. They have made it to the championship game of every '96 tournament they have ever played in both in the US and Canada. They have won every tournament but one. It wasn’t long and we were approached by many families about getting that same kind of training for their players. Since then, we have added Machine teams at most all levels and in 2006 started a second AAA club using this same training model. Now in 2008 we have added two more AAA clubs bringing the total to 4 AAA clubs.
The Current AAA Clubs with Birth years are as Follows:
Machine Boys - Birth years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s
Machine Girls - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99's
Snipers - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s / 96’s
Team Torspo - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s / 96’s
Minnesota Force - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:32 am
by dogeatdog1
HockeyDad41 wrote:I pulled this off the web page. If you want an explanation of the teams and name changes for the Deuce and Grinders, I would recommend giving Craig Johnson over there a call. Seems like a very nice guy and is pleasant on the phone.
At Minnesota Made Hockey we set our goals high. Over the last 17 years of coaching young athletes we have seen over and over again, if you start with a young enough player who has good (not even great) athletic ability and a strong drive to achieve. Combine this with enough ice time and high repetition skill training, they can accomplish great things. With the right commitment we can help these young athletes reach their goals and do things that others can only dream about.
The question is, are you willing to make the commitment?
AAA CLUBS
Our first AAA team was the called The Minnesota 88s, the team was made up of players born in 1988. Over the seven years that the team was together the focus was on high repetition skill training, very little systems and we only competed in tournaments. By the time the 88s reached draft age, 8 of them were drafted by NHL teams. After the 88s had run their course we started a '96 team called the Minnesota Machine. With the same development strategy and focus as with 88s,“The Machine” quickly became one of the top '96 teams in North America. They have made it to the championship game of every '96 tournament they have ever played in both in the US and Canada. They have won every tournament but one. It wasn’t long and we were approached by many families about getting that same kind of training for their players. Since then, we have added Machine teams at most all levels and in 2006 started a second AAA club using this same training model. Now in 2008 we have added two more AAA clubs bringing the total to 4 AAA clubs.
The Current AAA Clubs with Birth years are as Follows:
Machine Boys - Birth years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s
Machine Girls - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99's
Snipers - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s / 96’s
Team Torspo - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s / 96’s
Minnesota Force - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s
I know that you will think that this is MM bashing again but yet another documented issue of nut bag coaching.. take a peek at the meltdown thread and the antics of the 99 torspo coach.....
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:28 pm
by HockeyDad41
dogeatdog1 wrote:HockeyDad41 wrote:I pulled this off the web page. If you want an explanation of the teams and name changes for the Deuce and Grinders, I would recommend giving Craig Johnson over there a call. Seems like a very nice guy and is pleasant on the phone.
At Minnesota Made Hockey we set our goals high. Over the last 17 years of coaching young athletes we have seen over and over again, if you start with a young enough player who has good (not even great) athletic ability and a strong drive to achieve. Combine this with enough ice time and high repetition skill training, they can accomplish great things. With the right commitment we can help these young athletes reach their goals and do things that others can only dream about.
The question is, are you willing to make the commitment?
AAA CLUBS
Our first AAA team was the called The Minnesota 88s, the team was made up of players born in 1988. Over the seven years that the team was together the focus was on high repetition skill training, very little systems and we only competed in tournaments. By the time the 88s reached draft age, 8 of them were drafted by NHL teams. After the 88s had run their course we started a '96 team called the Minnesota Machine. With the same development strategy and focus as with 88s,“The Machine” quickly became one of the top '96 teams in North America. They have made it to the championship game of every '96 tournament they have ever played in both in the US and Canada. They have won every tournament but one. It wasn’t long and we were approached by many families about getting that same kind of training for their players. Since then, we have added Machine teams at most all levels and in 2006 started a second AAA club using this same training model. Now in 2008 we have added two more AAA clubs bringing the total to 4 AAA clubs.
The Current AAA Clubs with Birth years are as Follows:
Machine Boys - Birth years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s
Machine Girls - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99's
Snipers - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s / 96’s
Team Torspo - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s / 96’s
Minnesota Force - Birth Years: 01's / 00's / 99’s / 98’s / 97’s
I know that you will think that this is MM bashing again but yet another documented issue of nut bag coaching.. take a peek at the meltdown thread and the antics of the 99 torspo coach.....
Your hatred of MM is well documented. Give it a rest you nutbag.
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:44 pm
by dogeatdog1
HockeyDad41 wrote:dogeatdog1 wrote:HockeyDad41 wrote:I pulled this off the web page. If you want an explanation of the teams and name changes for the Deuce and Grinders, I would recommend giving Craig Johnson over there a call. Seems like a very nice guy and is pleasant on the phone.
I know that you will think that this is MM bashing again but yet another documented issue of nut bag coaching.. take a peek at the meltdown thread and the antics of the 99 torspo coach.....
Your hatred of MM is well documented. Give it a rest you nutbag.
I will rest when your overblown support for a program that has some obvious issues rests. I chose to point out the obvious and You my friend are the Nutbag.. and by the way that is my word...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:59 pm
by InigoMontoya
He's rubber, you're glue...
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:00 pm
by dogeatdog1
InigoMontoya wrote:He's rubber, you're glue...

I always love that one.
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:06 pm
by HockeyDad41
dogeatdog1 wrote:InigoMontoya wrote:He's rubber, you're glue...

I always love that one.
I'm happy for you two lovebirds.
My support for MM isn't any more overblown than your hatred. In fact I think you may have overestimated. My problem with you and your kind is that your view is absolute. Your position leaves no possibility that families can, if they choose, spend several years and a lot of their hard earned money at Minnesota Made and come away perfectly satisfied. You go out of your way to point out the bad but you never mention any of the good things that go on there.
They have something like 29 different teams at Minnesota Made. I am willing to believe that a hiring mistake occurred and it will be dealt with like any other business issue of this type. I am also willing to believe that parents know the difference between bad coaching and danger. As far as I am concerned you’re a little early in your attack of Minnesota Made. At least give Bernie a chance to not do anything about it before you rip on him and his program.
I am a current paying customer, and I’m willing to give him that. I am also not going to convict something like 80 other fine hard working coaches that work in this program that are probably just as shocked by this behavior as you are. When you generalize about Minnesota Made and what they offer you are doing just that.
Now you and IM can go pick out curtains or something.

minnesota made
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:50 am
by ENJOYTHEGAME
Check out Norhtern Edge Reebok Nationals @ neehs.com, if your on the south side of town they are hands down the best development program with the best coaches, led by the St. Louis Blues developement team (yes that's right PROFFESIONAL COACHES). If you don't check these guys out, you have no idea what your missing. Newer program so their reputation is building, they just did very well @ the Warrior Cup 96's beat Legacy for Championship, 97's took second (lost in a shootout), 98's took fourth (lost in shootout).
Nothing against Bernie, he himself is a very good coach, Craig Johnson too, they just have some other nut jobs coaching for them.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:06 am
by thunderwolf
Does anyone know where Team High Mark fits into the Minnesota Made Hierarchy? I don't see them listed on the MM website, but the parents from the 98 team mentioned that they were from MM. At least in the 98 division, they were stronger than both the Snipers and Force(both those teams went 0-4 and weren't competitive).
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:04 am
by Secord sucks
thunderwolf wrote:Does anyone know where Team High Mark fits into the Minnesota Made Hierarchy? I don't see them listed on the MM website, but the parents from the 98 team mentioned that they were from MM. At least in the 98 division, they were stronger than both the Snipers and Force(both those teams went 0-4 and weren't competitive).
High Mark is a 98 open team that is sponsored by the 99 Torspo coach. They practice with 99 Torspo and i think some of the 99 Torspo players play with them.
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:30 pm
by thunderwolf
Thanks. That would make sense. They did have a couple smaller kids and the coaches style seemed to match that of the 99 coach discussed on another thread.
So the non-Torspo kids aren't involves with MM in any other way?
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:19 pm
by Secord sucks
thunderwolf wrote:Thanks. That would make sense. They did have a couple smaller kids and the coaches style seemed to match that of the 99 coach discussed on another thread.
So the non-Torspo kids aren't involves with MM in any other way?
Not sure who they make thier checks out to, but you have to bet that BM gets his cut.
Re: minnesota made
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:28 pm
by codemanh
ENJOYTHEGAME wrote:Check out Norhtern Edge Reebok Nationals @ neehs.com, if your on the south side of town they are hands down the best development program with the best coaches, led by the St. Louis Blues developement team (yes that's right PROFFESIONAL COACHES). If you don't check these guys out, you have no idea what your missing. Newer program so their reputation is building, they just did very well @ the Warrior Cup 96's beat Legacy for Championship, 97's took second (lost in a shootout), 98's took fourth (lost in shootout).
Nothing against Bernie, he himself is a very good coach, Craig Johnson too, they just have some other nut jobs coaching for them.
They're obviously not that great if they had those results in the open division. i would like to see that 96 team play the legacy invite team. it wouldn't even be a game
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:21 pm
by nobama
Who is the 96 Legacy Invite team ? Is that the new name of the Legacy hockey academy team.

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:49 pm
by coach95
I think you need to find a team and stick with them. It is not about how many wins you get in these tournaments. It is about learning to let someone develop your kid over time, remember it is not a sprint, its a marathon. Too many kids go from team to team in search of something better, when its not really there.
Re: minnesota made
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:01 pm
by council member retired
[quote="ENJOYTHEGAME"]Check out Norhtern Edge Reebok Nationals @ neehs.com, if your on the south side of town they are hands down the best development program with the best coaches, led by the St. Louis Blues developement team (yes that's right PROFFESIONAL COACHES). If you don't check these guys out, you have no idea what your missing. Newer program so their reputation is building, they just did very well @ the Warrior Cup 96's beat Legacy for Championship, 97's took second (lost in a shootout), 98's took fourth (lost in shootout).
Nothing against Bernie, he himself is a very good coach, Craig Johnson too, they just have some other nut jobs coaching for them.[/quote]
Since this for profit has been thrown out here by a promoter, I would slow down on your quest of writing a check. This is the program that somehow had the mn hockey mailing list, and a executive of said organization on the coaching staff. The are a for profit program. Domiciled out of our state, and fill the bottom line with any skater(parent) that is willing to write a check. Who has heard of any player being turned down by them? Is there one? It is fine to be for profit, but elite, better, advanced, you are not.
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:43 pm
by old goalie85
Coemanh--- No open division at the Warrior.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:48 am
by InigoMontoya
OG85, when the Legacy speaks of the academy team, it is not the same team they would take to an invite (or elite, for tourney run out of Edina) tourney. Legacy parents please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they enter a couple open tourneys with their development kids, filling in a couple spots with tourney players if they're a little short.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:25 am
by MNHawker
InigoMontoya wrote:OG85, when the Legacy speaks of the academy team, it is not the same team they would take to an invite (or elite, for tourney run out of Edina) tourney. Legacy parents please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they enter a couple open tourneys with their development kids, filling in a couple spots with tourney players if they're a little short.
If the Warrior, Stars and Stripes “Invite”, MN AAA Independent, USA International Cup “Invite”, and Lake Superior Stars Cups are considered “Open”, than yes, the Academy Teams are in those…
The 1996 and 1997 (possibly 1998's) are the only levels that have the “Academy” formats. With 25+ skaters per level who are guaranteed 3-4 tournaments. There are 7-8 Tournaments for each of those levels. With multi-sport athletes, Family Vacations, injuries, etc., this gives Legacy options to plug players in where needed, so they don’t need to pull kids in from other programs\teams.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:48 am
by InigoMontoya
I'm not that great at math, but if the academy team is going to 5 tourneys that only leaves two or three for the tourney team.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:56 am
by old goalie85
INIGO- Thanks for the clarification. So they play more of an Chi-town, toronto, winnipeg[ subway] , type gig with the top 15to17kids. Then they go to the Warrior, Carribou, Stars & stripes Invite, type events with kids 9 or 10 thru 24, is that correct? If it is," I'm picking up what you are putting down." Sounds like a good program.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:56 am
by InigoMontoya
I agree sounds like a nice opportunity for all of the kids; and gives you enough kids at practice during lacrosse/soccer/baseball season when conflicts arise. I think the Magicians did something similar at a couple age groups last year with the Black and Red teams.