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As of today, this is how I see things.

1). Hill-Murray
2). White Bear
3). Stillwater
4). Tartan
5). N. St. Paul
6). Moundsview
7). Roseville
8 ). St. Paul Como
9). St. Paul Saints

I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....

In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.

So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......

I guess I should have clarified...as of right now, this is how I see the final seedings coming out. I see WB beating Still again down the road & see Tartan with 3-4 more losses. NSP is a potential sleeper.

Sec conference game white bear beats stilly 4 2, section semis stilly beats white bear 3 1, section finals the pride of all the wannabe hockey fans and spectators(pioneers) go down 5 3 to the ponies of stillwater, state tourney birth for the ponies(a first) and the enrollement at hm drops by 1 or 2 a year for the foreseeable future

Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....

In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.

So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......

GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.

Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.

BodyShots wrote:

Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....

In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.

So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......

GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.

Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.

Yeah, cuz the SW vs HM Dbl-OT Section Final last yr was a real yawner

No. 3 Hill-Murray (89. 4 0 0 16 1 1 5.3 1.6 Won 9
No. 22 Stillwater Area (61.4) 4 1 0 9 7 2 3.8 2.9 None
No. 25 White Bear Lake (60.7) 2 3 0 10 7 1 3.6 3.3 Won 1
No. 27 Tartan (57.4) 1 1 1 10 6 1 3.9 2.8 Lost 1
No. 36 North St. Paul (49.6) 2 2 0 10 7 0 5.1 3.0 Lost 1
No. 38 Mounds View (48.5) 2 2 1 8 8 2 3.3 3.0 Won 1
No. 44 Roseville (43.6) 1 5 0 5 12 1 2.2 3.0 Won 1
No. 66 St. Paul Como Park (28.9) 1 1 0 5 10 1 2.8 4.9 Lost 3
No. 70 St. Paul Saints (16.

This is from Mn-scores.net. strength of schedule and opponents.

That WBL/Stillwater game will be huge. I see the winner at #2 andd loser at #4 due to NSP weaker schedule. Also big factor NSP/MV to finish the season for both.

Spooge wrote:

BodyShots wrote:

Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....

In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.

So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......

GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.

Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.

Yeah, cuz the SW vs HM Dbl-OT Section Final last yr was a real yawner

I couldn't agree more!!!

youngblood08 wrote:No. 3 Hill-Murray (89. 4 0 0 16 1 1 5.3 1.6 Won 9
No. 22 Stillwater Area (61.4) 4 1 0 9 7 2 3.8 2.9 None
No. 25 White Bear Lake (60.7) 2 3 0 10 7 1 3.6 3.3 Won 1
No. 27 Tartan (57.4) 1 1 1 10 6 1 3.9 2.8 Lost 1
No. 36 North St. Paul (49.6) 2 2 0 10 7 0 5.1 3.0 Lost 1
No. 38 Mounds View (48.5) 2 2 1 8 8 2 3.3 3.0 Won 1
No. 44 Roseville (43.6) 1 5 0 5 12 1 2.2 3.0 Won 1
No. 66 St. Paul Como Park (28.9) 1 1 0 5 10 1 2.8 4.9 Lost 3
No. 70 St. Paul Saints (16.

This is from Mn-scores.net. strength of schedule and opponents.

That WBL/Stillwater game will be huge. I see the winner at #2 andd loser at #4 due to NSP weaker schedule. Also big factor NSP/MV to finish the season for both.

When is the meeting to determine where the teams are seeded? I believe the seedings last year were determined the Saturday morning before NSP and Moundsview played their last game of the season. The results of NSP vs Moundsview won't matter if that is the case again this year.

BodyShots wrote:

Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....

In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.

So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......

GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.

Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.

I based my statement, because, according to Hockey Hub, Stillwater is 7-3-2 with 16 pts and WBL is 7-3-1 with 15 pts. WBL has a game in hand. I realize I am a journalism major, and not a math major, but last I checked, 16 pts is more than 15 points. I don't need to work in a bank to figure that out!!!

And Youngblood supports my rationale with the current rankings. They're close, no question.

Goldfishdude wrote:

BodyShots wrote:

Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....

In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.

So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......

GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.

Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.

I based my statement, because, according to Hockey Hub, Stillwater is 7-3-2 with 16 pts and WBL is 7-3-1 with 15 pts. WBL has a game in hand. I realize I am a journalism major, and not a math major, but last I checked, 16 pts is more than 15 points. I don't need to work in a bank to figure that out!!!

And Youngblood supports my rationale with the current rankings. They're close, no question.

Now I know why I'm not taking a drink of water or Propel when I read these. I'd have "Propelled" water on my computer screen.

Lee

Hey, do these seedings even matter? You know what happened to the #1 seed last year...

mngophs04 wrote:Hey, do these seedings even matter? You know what happened to the #1 seed last year...

I don't care who ya are, that's funny right there.....

mngophs04 wrote:Hey, do these seedings even matter? You know what happened to the #1 seed last year...

Hmmmm..... not sure what you're referring to gophs!!! Maybe you might need to remind some of us!!!!

Goldfishdude wrote:

mngophs04 wrote:Hey, do these seedings even matter? You know what happened to the #1 seed last year...

Hmmmm..... not sure what you're referring to gophs!!! Maybe you might need to remind some of us!!!!

Let's just say it didn't help them any.

stilly5hm3 wrote:Sec conference game white bear beats stilly 4 2, section semis stilly beats white bear 3 1, section finals the pride of all the wannabe hockey fans and spectators(pioneers) go down 5 3 to the ponies of stillwater, state tourney birth for the ponies(a first) and the enrollement at hm drops by 1 or 2 a year for the foreseeable future

Why do I sense a hint of bitterness from this statement?

mngophs04 wrote:

Goldfishdude wrote:

mngophs04 wrote:Hey, do these seedings even matter? You know what happened to the #1 seed last year...

Hmmmm..... not sure what you're referring to gophs!!! Maybe you might need to remind some of us!!!!

Let's just say it didn't help them any.

Gophs..... not the answer I was looking for, but... I guess I should commend you on being politically correct for not taking my bait!!

Would love to see another Hill-WBL matchup and a HM-Stillwater matchup, or even a Stillwater-WBL, I just know these games will be the hardest played around the state. All three teams hate eachother.

Goldfishdude wrote:

BodyShots wrote:

Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....

In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.

So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......

GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.

Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.

I based my statement, because, according to Hockey Hub, Stillwater is 7-3-2 with 16 pts and WBL is 7-3-1 with 15 pts. WBL has a game in hand. I realize I am a journalism major, and not a math major, but last I checked, 16 pts is more than 15 points. I don't need to work in a bank to figure that out!!!

And Youngblood supports my rationale with the current rankings. They're close, no question.

Suburban East Conference Standings
Team (QRF) Conf. Overall For Agst Streak
W L T W L T AVG AVG
Woodbury 9 1 2 11 6 2 3.7 2.9 None
Cretin-Derham Hall 9 3 0 13 6 0 3.5 2.7 Won 3
White Bear Lake 7 3 1 10 7 1 3.6 3.3 Won 1
Forest Lake 7 3 2 10 5 2 3.5 2.3 Lost 2
Stillwater Area 7 3 2 9 7 2 3.8 2.9 None
Mounds View 5 7 0 8 8 2 3.3 3.0 Won 1
Hastings 4 7 1 7 10 1 2.9 4.3 Lost 1
Roseville 3 8 1 5 12 1 2.2 3.0 Won 1
Park of Cottage Grove 3 8 1 4 13 1 2.7 4.8 Lost 4
East Ridge 1 12 0 3 15 1 2.0 4.9 Lost 4


And you can take that to the bank!

BodyShots wrote:

Goldfishdude wrote:

BodyShots wrote: GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.

Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.

I based my statement, because, according to Hockey Hub, Stillwater is 7-3-2 with 16 pts and WBL is 7-3-1 with 15 pts. WBL has a game in hand. I realize I am a journalism major, and not a math major, but last I checked, 16 pts is more than 15 points. I don't need to work in a bank to figure that out!!!

And Youngblood supports my rationale with the current rankings. They're close, no question.

Suburban East Conference Standings
Team (QRF) Conf. Overall For Agst Streak
W L T W L T AVG AVG
Woodbury 9 1 2 11 6 2 3.7 2.9 None
Cretin-Derham Hall 9 3 0 13 6 0 3.5 2.7 Won 3
White Bear Lake 7 3 1 10 7 1 3.6 3.3 Won 1
Forest Lake 7 3 2 10 5 2 3.5 2.3 Lost 2
Stillwater Area 7 3 2 9 7 2 3.8 2.9 None
Mounds View 5 7 0 8 8 2 3.3 3.0 Won 1
Hastings 4 7 1 7 10 1 2.9 4.3 Lost 1
Roseville 3 8 1 5 12 1 2.2 3.0 Won 1
Park of Cottage Grove 3 8 1 4 13 1 2.7 4.8 Lost 4
East Ridge 1 12 0 3 15 1 2.0 4.9 Lost 4


And you can take that to the bank!

East Ridge hasn't won any conference games. Their win against Forest Lake was in a tournament.

BodyShots wrote:

Goldfishdude wrote:

BodyShots wrote: GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.

Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.

I based my statement, because, according to Hockey Hub, Stillwater is 7-3-2 with 16 pts and WBL is 7-3-1 with 15 pts. WBL has a game in hand. I realize I am a journalism major, and not a math major, but last I checked, 16 pts is more than 15 points. I don't need to work in a bank to figure that out!!!

And Youngblood supports my rationale with the current rankings. They're close, no question.

Suburban East Conference Standings
Team (QRF) Conf. Overall For Agst Streak
W L T W L T AVG AVG
Woodbury 9 1 2 11 6 2 3.7 2.9 None
Cretin-Derham Hall 9 3 0 13 6 0 3.5 2.7 Won 3
White Bear Lake 7 3 1 10 7 1 3.6 3.3 Won 1
Forest Lake 7 3 2 10 5 2 3.5 2.3 Lost 2
Stillwater Area 7 3 2 9 7 2 3.8 2.9 None
Mounds View 5 7 0 8 8 2 3.3 3.0 Won 1
Hastings 4 7 1 7 10 1 2.9 4.3 Lost 1
Roseville 3 8 1 5 12 1 2.2 3.0 Won 1
Park of Cottage Grove 3 8 1 4 13 1 2.7 4.8 Lost 4
East Ridge 1 12 0 3 15 1 2.0 4.9 Lost 4


And you can take that to the bank!

Body... I apologize.. I was confusing THIS thread with the thread about Stillwater and CDH being the favorties for the SEC.

http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22556

I was correct about the conference standings, but you are correct with the overall standings. However, I still seed Stillwater over WBL, because that's my opinion, and Stillwater is my favorite SEC team.

Section Final WBL vs Hill

I dont want to get my hopes up cause WBL always finds a way to lose in the section final but you never know, all i know is that WBL has the best fans in the state

you keep tellin yourself that. eventually, you will win a prize for it

Usually I don't approve of anything Sachi has to say , but that was damn funny!

I think things are starting to solidify more after last night's games.

1). HM
2). WB
3). Tartan
4). Still
5). NSP
6). MV
7). Rose
8 ). Como
9). Saints

The only real potential movement could be Tartan & Stillwater. Those two could flip flop depending how they finish. Obviously, Tartan has the tougher schedule, but right now they are the higher seed and have a slight buffer. How this plays out is significant because of the first round match up with NSP....you definately don't wanna go down that path. The semi match up with either HM or WB shouldn't matter as I don't see a whole lot of difference between these two right now. WB is playing much better and HM is solid, but hasn't progressed as much as WB has. Should be interesting....as usual.