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Lake/Classic Lake Gossip

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:18 pm
by HShockeywatcher
There have been rumors on this board about the two conferences and their future. Could people with FACTS about their futures post them?

Thanks

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:33 pm
by hockeyjunkie2
Lake Conference- Wayzata, Edina, Hopkins, Minnetonka placed in Lake by MSHSL, also joined by Eden Prairie

South Suburban Conference- Apple Valley, Burnsville, Eagan, Eastview, Lakeville North, Lakeville South, Rosemount, Kennedy, Jefferson moved out of Lake after MSHSL added those 4 teams above and also added Prior Lake from the Missota

Missota- Holy Angels, Red Wing, Farmington, New Prague, Northfield, Shakopee will remain, in 2010-2011 they add Chaska and Chanhassen and Hutchinson will leave to go to the Wright County Conference

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:36 pm
by nikebauer05
Wow, so the Lake will be a small but very powerful conference. This will make for some good schedules in just about every sport.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:50 pm
by MNHockeyFan
hockeyjunkie2 wrote:Lake Conference- Wayzata, Edina, Hopkins, Minnetonka placed in Lake by MSHSL, also joined by Eden Prairie
So after all the wrangling the only change from the Classic Lake is that EP replaces Armstrong. Still left with the scheduling problems associated with a 5 team conference. In hockey all the teams can line up as tough of a non-conference schedule as they want, about 17 games to fill out their seasons. But in football I wonder how far Eden Prairie will need to travel to line up non-conference football opponents?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:02 pm
by HockeyMN1
MNHockeyFan wrote:
hockeyjunkie2 wrote:Lake Conference- Wayzata, Edina, Hopkins, Minnetonka placed in Lake by MSHSL, also joined by Eden Prairie
So after all the wrangling the only change from the Classic Lake is that EP replaces Armstrong. Still left with the scheduling problems associated with a 5 team conference. In hockey all the teams can line up as tough of a non-conference schedule as they want, about 17 games to fill out their seasons. But in football I wonder how far Eden Prairie will need to travel to line up non-conference football opponents?
The way the MSHSL envisioned it, the Lake would have just absorbed those 4 teams and been a 14 or so team conference. Unfortunatly, all the teams except Eden Prairie got together and decided to bolt and start the new South Suburban Conference so they wouldn't have a conference with one powerhouse expanded to a conference with five powerhouses, so they created one with none! And yea, the scheduling for every football team might be brutal.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:23 pm
by hockeyjunkie2
HockeyMN1 wrote:
MNHockeyFan wrote:
hockeyjunkie2 wrote:Lake Conference- Wayzata, Edina, Hopkins, Minnetonka placed in Lake by MSHSL, also joined by Eden Prairie
So after all the wrangling the only change from the Classic Lake is that EP replaces Armstrong. Still left with the scheduling problems associated with a 5 team conference. In hockey all the teams can line up as tough of a non-conference schedule as they want, about 17 games to fill out their seasons. But in football I wonder how far Eden Prairie will need to travel to line up non-conference football opponents?
The way the MSHSL envisioned it, the Lake would have just absorbed those 4 teams and been a 14 or so team conference. Unfortunatly, all the teams except Eden Prairie got together and decided to bolt and start the new South Suburban Conference so they wouldn't have a conference with one powerhouse expanded to a conference with five powerhouses, so they created one with none! And yea, the scheduling for every football team might be brutal.
It made sense what the schools did. In high school there is no reason for a 14 team conference and also that covered alot of area no need for the travel for conference games to be that way. Costs had up in todays economy when you consider traveling all your teams to Wayzata from Rosemount for all sports freshman through varsity levels.

There probably was a better solution to avoid a 5 team conference though as well. There was always lots of speculation though so we dont need to start any more of they should of done this or that with the conferences.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:00 am
by MNHockeyFan
HockeyMN1 wrote:The way the MSHSL envisioned it, the Lake would have just absorbed those 4 teams and been a 14 or so team conference. Unfortunatly, all the teams except Eden Prairie got together and decided to bolt and start the new South Suburban Conference so they wouldn't have a conference with one powerhouse expanded to a conference with five powerhouses, so they created one with none! And yea, the scheduling for every football team might be brutal.
Yeah I knew the history but just find it kind of ironic that it finally ended up back where they started, more or less, with a conference having just 5 teams. My guess is that the new Lake Conference will be short-lived and we'll see more change in the next couple of years.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:37 am
by HShockeywatcher
Football seeding for the teams in the new Lake with be cruddy to say the least. I bet the conference winner will rarely have no losses, some years two. This will be great for development of player in that new 5 team conference.

However, I don't like having that big conference; they should turn it into two. There may be a couple more, but football is really the only sport Eden Prairie just dominates.