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That's the teams listed on Edina's website as well. It shows the Abra Tounament games at Braemar on the 28th and 30th but the games on the 29th at Buffalo for both the varsity and jvs.royals dad wrote:This what it shows on the classic lake conference calendar:
Edina,
Hopkins,
Grand Rapids,
Duluth East,
Hill-Murray,
Irondale,
Maple Grove,
Lakeville South
I'm sure that the reference to Buffalo is a typo. I don't see why they would have those games anywhere but Braemar. The tournament weekend was changed this year to accomodate scouts and to switch it to a more fan friendly environment. The past two years the tourney was a weekend earlier and at Minnesota Made. Scouts attended the Schwan's Cup and it was burdensome to them to attend the Edina Invitational too since it was a long week for scouts. By moving the tournament this year it is hoped that there will be more scouts in attendance since the tourney will be the same weekend as the Schwan's Cup. Also, there were parking problems and not good sight lines for fans at Minnesota Made.iceage wrote:That's the teams listed on Edina's website as well. It shows the Abra Tounament games at Braemar on the 28th and 30th but the games on the 29th at Buffalo for both the varsity and jvs.royals dad wrote:This what it shows on the classic lake conference calendar:
Edina,
Hopkins,
Grand Rapids,
Duluth East,
Hill-Murray,
Irondale,
Maple Grove,
Lakeville South
Roseville is very loyal to the Kaposia. They have been there from the beginning and will probably continue to be there as long as it continues to be a premier venue. I can't confirm, but I have heard Minnetonka and Warroad may be joining the Kaposia this year.OntheEdge wrote:I'm sure that the reference to Buffalo is a typo. I don't see why they would have those games anywhere but Braemar. The tournament weekend was changed this year to accomodate scouts and to switch it to a more fan friendly environment. The past two years the tourney was a weekend earlier and at Minnesota Made. Scouts attended the Schwan's Cup and it was burdensome to them to attend the Edina Invitational too since it was a long week for scouts. By moving the tournament this year it is hoped that there will be more scouts in attendance since the tourney will be the same weekend as the Schwan's Cup. Also, there were parking problems and not good sight lines for fans at Minnesota Made.iceage wrote:That's the teams listed on Edina's website as well. It shows the Abra Tounament games at Braemar on the 28th and 30th but the games on the 29th at Buffalo for both the varsity and jvs.royals dad wrote:This what it shows on the classic lake conference calendar:
Edina,
Hopkins,
Grand Rapids,
Duluth East,
Hill-Murray,
Irondale,
Maple Grove,
Lakeville South
Moving the weekend may have caused some teams to pass on the tourney, but I don't know why Stillwater isn't attending and I too hoped that Roseville would have been added. I know the coaches want the best possible field of teams.
titleist wrote:OntheEdge wrote:iceage wrote: I am not familiar with the Kaposia over the years but hasn't it basically been a single A tournament? Seems like it was last year.
iceage wrote:titleist wrote:OntheEdge wrote: I think before Holiday Tournaments expanded it was the one and clearly the best - remember SSP only recently went A they were a long time AA power. Edina Abra Tournamnet the last three years has stole some of the top teams and the Schwan Tournament gives everyone a chance to play. I would guess every school is different - find the best tournament field or find a tournament field you can win.....
iceage wrote:titleist wrote:OntheEdge wrote: It has turned into a mix of A and AA. EP and Stillwater have been fixtures there up until last year when Stillwater went to the Edina Classic and now EP is hosting their own with Stillwater going over there.
As far as I'm concerned, I think all of the so called biggies (tourneys) are going to be watered down per-se, as the teams that are the potential year end favorites, seem to be pretty spread out over the holiday tournaments. Unlike last year where Edina had probably the nicest field. I will never downplay the quality of the A schools, Blake and Warroad were some of the best teams I saw last year, regardless of class.
Not accurate--Kaposia had 3 of the top 4 teams in AA (Roseville, SW and EP) as recently as 3 years ago, along with the NSP team with Thunstrom and Hogan as seniors. I think it's great for a program to have traditions that go beyond chasing around to find the 'coolest' tournament year-to-year. It's also nice to see a mix of A and AA, as well as having a couple northern teams. You get to see matchups that normally would never happen outside of that tournament. If all you're worried about is how many college scouts are in the stands, if Blake is back with Roseville and SSP, and if Warroad showed up, there would be more future DI players there than any tournament bracket in the state. The scouts will be there.iceage wrote:I am not familiar with the Kaposia over the years but hasn't it basically been a single A tournament? Seems like it was last year.royals dad wrote:This what it shows on the classic lake conference calendar:
Roseville is very loyal to the Kaposia. They have been there from the beginning and will probably continue to be there as long as it continues to be a premier venue. I can't confirm, but I have heard Minnetonka and Warroad may be joining the Kaposia this year.
I think that has more to say about how Roseville was playing at the time than the field at Wakota. Blake beat plenty AA teams last year including a couple state tournament teams.royals dad wrote: ... Last year at Kaposia I think Roseville was not really challenged even in the game vs Blake. ...
Also, the Edina Cake Eater Tournament (otherwise known as "The Hornets and the Bs Tourney") at Braemar over Thanksgiving:MNhockey24 wrote:Earlier tourney also worth mentioning...
MG Thanksgiving Tournament
Nov 27-28
Duluth
Hopkins
Maple Grove
Roseville
titleist wrote:iceage wrote:titleist wrote:
Many forget that HM has been pretty-much opting up to AA since day 1!joehockey wrote:Hill Murray might be class A in size but is in AA class.
Agreed...Hill-Murray is technically a single A school that chooses tp play AA. Schools like EP, Wayzata, and Stillwater are four times bigger with hundreds of youth hockey girls funneling into their school programs. HM (ans the other privates) have none of that.ghshockeyfan wrote:Many forget that HM has been pretty-much opting up to AA since day 1!joehockey wrote:Hill Murray might be class A in size but is in AA class.
Ah....but where do you think those great private school kids come from?iceage wrote:Agreed...Hill-Murray is technically a single A school that chooses tp play AA. Schools like EP, Wayzata, and Stillwater are four times bigger with hundreds of youth hockey girls funneling into their school programs. HM (ans the other privates) have none of that.ghshockeyfan wrote:Many forget that HM has been pretty-much opting up to AA since day 1!joehockey wrote:Hill Murray might be class A in size but is in AA class.
The same place that all those great public school kids come fromSilent But Deadly wrote:Ah....but where do you think those great private school kids come from?iceage wrote:Agreed...Hill-Murray is technically a single A school that chooses tp play AA. Schools like EP, Wayzata, and Stillwater are four times bigger with hundreds of youth hockey girls funneling into their school programs. HM (ans the other privates) have none of that.ghshockeyfan wrote: Many forget that HM has been pretty-much opting up to AA since day 1!
The difference being that private schools don't have a concetrated community around them. Virtually all kids going to private schools are transfer stidents whether they play sports or not. If you want to wonder where good hockey players come from, consider this....HM has a 2009-2010 enrollment of 814, Warroad has an enrollment of 335......now you can start scratching your head.