WCHA additions
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:23 am
Word on the street is BSU and Univ of Neb O will be admitted to the WCHA.
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I certainly hope so after their outstanding play in the post season. I wonder why they wouldn't opt for Air Force instead of UNO?elliott70 wrote:Word on the street is BSU and Univ of Neb O will be admitted to the WCHA.
Air Froce wants to be in a league with Army.Hockeyguy_27 wrote:I certainly hope so after their outstanding play in the post season. I wonder why they wouldn't opt for Air Force instead of UNO?elliott70 wrote:Word on the street is BSU and Univ of Neb O will be admitted to the WCHA.
Anything official yet???elliott70 wrote:Air Froce wants to be in a league with Army.Hockeyguy_27 wrote:I certainly hope so after their outstanding play in the post season. I wonder why they wouldn't opt for Air Force instead of UNO?elliott70 wrote:Word on the street is BSU and Univ of Neb O will be admitted to the WCHA.
Travel is not as important to them.
UNO is wanted by the WCHA. They have an established program that has done well and is an easy travel for the existing teams.
Why would their hockey program die if they didn't have a conference? The prestige of playing in College Hockey America is bringing in a lot of recruits?defense wrote:A few thoughts: The WCHA would be dumb not to add Bemidji, they are a perfect fit. Bottom line.
What do they mean when they say they want to protect their natural rivalries????? for some reason this just doesn't sound right. Do they mean that they wouldn't get to play as games against each other???? or would the schedule be unbalanced???? I can't figure out how 10 teams figures into 28 games and comes out balanced...
The WCHA's flagship event, the final five would probably not be the final five with the addition of 2 more teams...
Anyone still thinking that Moorhead State is going to be a WCHA member or have any type of hockey team for that matter is dreamin. Ain't going to happen. The numbers I do not have in front of me but it is a fact that teh NSIC. their conference for all other athletics allows considerably less scholarships than division 2 (the level at wich their sports play) allows for football. Moorhead State (or Minnesota State, Moorhead) does not have the scholarship dollars to even get to the NSIC's maximum scholarship number. This begs the question, how in the heck is MSU going to field a hockey team. If this is some FM area hockey boosters' with deep pockets attempt at getting division one hockey in the town, it is the wong route. In my opinion there is another college of that side of the river that is better suited for such a leap.
The WCHA at this point appears to be actually trying to get the Beavers into their conference. They are in a tough position but to me it is better to deal with an unbalanced schedule and a different playoff format than to let Bemidji State University's hockey program die...wich is what will happen if they do not get a conference.
PS
I am a Gopher fan, never did like Bemidji, but, they need to keep playing division one hockey up there.
Nope, not at all....Goldy Gopher wrote:Why would their hockey program die if they didn't have a conference? The prestige of playing in College Hockey America is bringing in a lot of recruits?defense wrote:A few thoughts: The WCHA would be dumb not to add Bemidji, they are a perfect fit. Bottom line.
What do they mean when they say they want to protect their natural rivalries????? for some reason this just doesn't sound right. Do they mean that they wouldn't get to play as games against each other???? or would the schedule be unbalanced???? I can't figure out how 10 teams figures into 28 games and comes out balanced...
The WCHA's flagship event, the final five would probably not be the final five with the addition of 2 more teams...
Anyone still thinking that Moorhead State is going to be a WCHA member or have any type of hockey team for that matter is dreamin. Ain't going to happen. The numbers I do not have in front of me but it is a fact that teh NSIC. their conference for all other athletics allows considerably less scholarships than division 2 (the level at wich their sports play) allows for football. Moorhead State (or Minnesota State, Moorhead) does not have the scholarship dollars to even get to the NSIC's maximum scholarship number. This begs the question, how in the heck is MSU going to field a hockey team. If this is some FM area hockey boosters' with deep pockets attempt at getting division one hockey in the town, it is the wong route. In my opinion there is another college of that side of the river that is better suited for such a leap.
The WCHA at this point appears to be actually trying to get the Beavers into their conference. They are in a tough position but to me it is better to deal with an unbalanced schedule and a different playoff format than to let Bemidji State University's hockey program die...wich is what will happen if they do not get a conference.
PS
I am a Gopher fan, never did like Bemidji, but, they need to keep playing division one hockey up there.
Do you really think that the program would die without a conference after the success they just had this year? If anything being an independent would help them. They wouldn't be tied to playing College Hockey America teams and would have a little more freedom to schedule who they want. Do you think they're going to pump all this money into a new arena only to have the team fold within a couple years?defense wrote:Nope, not at all....Goldy Gopher wrote:Why would their hockey program die if they didn't have a conference? The prestige of playing in College Hockey America is bringing in a lot of recruits?defense wrote:A few thoughts: The WCHA would be dumb not to add Bemidji, they are a perfect fit. Bottom line.
What do they mean when they say they want to protect their natural rivalries????? for some reason this just doesn't sound right. Do they mean that they wouldn't get to play as games against each other???? or would the schedule be unbalanced???? I can't figure out how 10 teams figures into 28 games and comes out balanced...
The WCHA's flagship event, the final five would probably not be the final five with the addition of 2 more teams...
Anyone still thinking that Moorhead State is going to be a WCHA member or have any type of hockey team for that matter is dreamin. Ain't going to happen. The numbers I do not have in front of me but it is a fact that teh NSIC. their conference for all other athletics allows considerably less scholarships than division 2 (the level at wich their sports play) allows for football. Moorhead State (or Minnesota State, Moorhead) does not have the scholarship dollars to even get to the NSIC's maximum scholarship number. This begs the question, how in the heck is MSU going to field a hockey team. If this is some FM area hockey boosters' with deep pockets attempt at getting division one hockey in the town, it is the wong route. In my opinion there is another college of that side of the river that is better suited for such a leap.
The WCHA at this point appears to be actually trying to get the Beavers into their conference. They are in a tough position but to me it is better to deal with an unbalanced schedule and a different playoff format than to let Bemidji State University's hockey program die...wich is what will happen if they do not get a conference.
PS
I am a Gopher fan, never did like Bemidji, but, they need to keep playing division one hockey up there.
It has been stated by the powers that be in Bemidji that two things pretty much had to happen in order for the Beavers to keep playing in D1, an arena would be #1, that would hopefully lead to the second one wich was getting into a new conference since their current one was disbanding. This was maybe a year or more ago.....
Goldy, do you ever read about these issues before you discuss them?Goldy Gopher wrote:Do you really think that the program would die without a conference after the success they just had this year? If anything being an independent would help them. They wouldn't be tied to playing College Hockey America teams and would have a little more freedom to schedule who they want. Do you think they're going to pump all this money into a new arena only to have the team fold within a couple years?defense wrote:Nope, not at all....Goldy Gopher wrote: Why would their hockey program die if they didn't have a conference? The prestige of playing in College Hockey America is bringing in a lot of recruits?
It has been stated by the powers that be in Bemidji that two things pretty much had to happen in order for the Beavers to keep playing in D1, an arena would be #1, that would hopefully lead to the second one wich was getting into a new conference since their current one was disbanding. This was maybe a year or more ago.....
Get real they tell me.
Goldy Gopher wrote:You realize that if they were an independant this past season, they would not have made the NCAA trny, right? One of the reasons for the death of the CHA is that they will lose the automatic berth to the show. An exception has been made for a few seasons after the league went down to 4 teams. I think that 5 teams are required for the auto bid.defense wrote: Why would their hockey program die if they didn't have a conference? The prestige of playing in College Hockey America is bringing in a lot of recruits?
Would not having much of a chance at making the NCAA tournament hurt their recruiting? Let me think about that.. uh YEAH...
Blue&Gold wrote:You're right. I'm sure the high prospects of making the NCAA tourney get the recruits pouring into D-1 hockey schools like Union College, Robert Morris and Bentley.Goldy Gopher wrote:You realize that if they were an independant this past season, they would not have made the NCAA trny, right? One of the reasons for the death of the CHA is that they will lose the automatic berth to the show. An exception has been made for a few seasons after the league went down to 4 teams. I think that 5 teams are required for the auto bid.defense wrote: Why would their hockey program die if they didn't have a conference? The prestige of playing in College Hockey America is bringing in a lot of recruits?
Would not having much of a chance at making the NCAA tournament hurt their recruiting? Let me think about that.. uh YEAH...
Goldy Gopher wrote:Blue&Gold wrote:Goldy Gopher[b] wrote: You're right. I'm sure the high prospects of making the NCAA tourney get the recruits pouring into D-1 hockey schools like Union College, Robert Morris and Bentley.
I did NOT say what I am quoted as saying.
Goldy Gopher: I don't know that anyone on this board thinks that Bemidji State should not field a D1 hockey team if they do not get into a conference. It would make it a damn hard sell to a recruit to tell him that our chances at getting to the NCAA's is slim to none as an independant, especially when there are 4 other colleges in the state and another near by who can say that all they have to do is win their conference and with his help......
This is just what was said and felt and probably is still felt by the powers that be at the Beavers' athletic department/administration.
If you're so worried about write, e-mail,or call the President and or the AD at Bemidji State University, they're the ones with the idea of going back to D3.
Northern Michigan told the WCHA they aren't interested in changing conferences.Love4Hockey wrote:What about moving Alaska Anchorage to the CCHA and adding Bemidji State, Nebraska Omaha and Northern Michigan to the WCHA, it gives the WCHA the 12 teams its looking for by adding Bemidji State and another team
The WCHA is an Elite conference of D1 hockey, it would be a huge upgrade for Alabama Huntsville...however... not so much with Nebraska Omaha. They play in the CCHA... I am a homer of the WCHA, but not naive....Love4Hockey wrote:Dont count out Alabama Huntsville yet either
Theres probably 3 or 4 teams on the kist of interested teams
Either way the 2 teams that join the WCHA are gonna see a all around increase in recruiting and attendance, the WCHA is the elite conference in D1 hockey, and the teams that get the spots, are gonna be good ones
I respect that.Love4Hockey wrote:This was the biggest down year for the WCHA in quite a few years, usually we send 5 or 6 teams to the NCAA's but we only sent 2 I believe this latest year, I still consider it the beat conference in college hockey, its now to the point that teams like Alaska Anchorage and Michigan Tech are not easy wins, 1-10 the best conference in hockey, the best competition and some of the best players in the nation, idk how a team like Nebraska Omaha woulda pass that up, even though they play in the CCHA with teams such as Michigan, Michigan State and Notre Dame, I would still choose the WCHA