NEW SECTION ASSIGNMENTS TO BE RELEASED ON MARCH 18th
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:34 pm
From today's Pioneer Press.
http://www.twincities.com/prep/ci_11910447
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NEW SECTION ASSIGNMENTS TO BE RELEASED ON MARCH 18th
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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:38 pm
that is exciting
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:34 pm
Wednesday is when all the complaining will start once again.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:36 pm
Not sure you can say the complaining will start when it never really totally stopped from last time....wbmd wrote:Wednesday is when all the complaining will start once again.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:01 pm
any clues on who and how many this is going to effect? or is it a couple of small moves?
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:45 pm
Obviously, we won 't know for sure until Wednesday, but the expectation was that changes would be minor, especially compared to the significant moves made two years ago. Also, this realignment is supposedly going to last for four years, not just two, which I think is a good move.
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:48 pm
St thomas is moving up so the big news is what region for them...thats about the only thing to expect, there might be one or two other minor shifts..
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:58 pm
Any new opt ups?
After opt ups are made, why aren't the smallest schools moved down to A to have a 64 team AA class?
After opt ups are made, why aren't the smallest schools moved down to A to have a 64 team AA class?
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:05 pm
Bemidji is opting up, congrats to them.
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:41 am
I'll believe that when I see it.hockeyhockeyhockey wrote:St thomas is moving up so the big news is what region for them...thats about the only thing to expect, there might be one or two other minor shifts..
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:23 am
Agreed, I don't think it's happening. Besides they have to prove they can get to state in A again first.wbmd wrote:I'll believe that when I see it.hockeyhockeyhockey wrote:St thomas is moving up so the big news is what region for them...thats about the only thing to expect, there might be one or two other minor shifts..
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:37 am
I really hope they don’t realign the sections that drastically. I hate the fact that there are a couple of sections that are extremely top heavy (2AA/6AA), but I would really like to see some rivalries built(not that there already is some big rivalries). For example, section 5A when benilde, totino, blake, and breck. It was always fun watching those teams play, especially during sections.
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:03 am
If STA is opting up, any chance they will get assigned to 1AA? When was the last time any team from this section did much of anything at the state tournament.hockeyjunkie2 wrote:Agreed, I don't think it's happening. Besides they have to prove they can get to state in A again first.wbmd wrote:I'll believe that when I see it.hockeyhockeyhockey wrote:St thomas is moving up so the big news is what region for them...thats about the only thing to expect, there might be one or two other minor shifts..
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:08 am
I believe Johson is opting down...maybe that should take Tartan with them.
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:46 am
If STA is opting up, they would probably be in 3AA with Woodbury. Just a guess.lamplighter wrote:If STA is opting up, any chance they will get assigned to 1AA? When was the last time any team from this section did much of anything at the state tournament.hockeyjunkie2 wrote:Agreed, I don't think it's happening. Besides they have to prove they can get to state in A again first.wbmd wrote: I'll believe that when I see it.
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:53 pm
2007 is a long time ago. Rochester Century defeated Burnsville for 3rd.lamplighter wrote:If STA is opting up, any chance they will get assigned to 1AA? When was the last time any team from this section did much of anything at the state tournament.hockeyjunkie2 wrote:Agreed, I don't think it's happening. Besides they have to prove they can get to state in A again first.wbmd wrote: I'll believe that when I see it.
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:59 pm
I wouldn't think so. If sections would stay the way they are for the most part with minor changes. East Ridge would be put in 3AA by default because Park and Woodbury are in there, I don't think they would add both unless they plan on moving teams out and giving everything a pretty good shake up.wbmd wrote:If STA is opting up, they would probably be in 3AA with Woodbury. Just a guess.lamplighter wrote:If STA is opting up, any chance they will get assigned to 1AA? When was the last time any team from this section did much of anything at the state tournament.hockeyjunkie2 wrote: Agreed, I don't think it's happening. Besides they have to prove they can get to state in A again first.
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:40 pm
Guess we just have to wait and see on Wednesday for the changes.hockeyjunkie2 wrote:I wouldn't think so. If sections would stay the way they are for the most part with minor changes. East Ridge would be put in 3AA by default because Park and Woodbury are in there, I don't think they would add both unless they plan on moving teams out and giving everything a pretty good shake up.wbmd wrote:If STA is opting up, they would probably be in 3AA with Woodbury. Just a guess.lamplighter wrote: If STA is opting up, any chance they will get assigned to 1AA? When was the last time any team from this section did much of anything at the state tournament.
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:27 pm
what are some of the major changes (if any) we should expect?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:48 pm
I wouldn't be suprised to see Hastings move down to 1AA. Basketball, Baseball, and a couple of others are already down there.hockeyjunkie2 wrote:I wouldn't think so. If sections would stay the way they are for the most part with minor changes. East Ridge would be put in 3AA by default because Park and Woodbury are in there, I don't think they would add both unless they plan on moving teams out and giving everything a pretty good shake up.wbmd wrote:If STA is opting up, they would probably be in 3AA with Woodbury. Just a guess.lamplighter wrote: If STA is opting up, any chance they will get assigned to 1AA? When was the last time any team from this section did much of anything at the state tournament.
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:09 pm
1AA - no one can opt down so the number of teams remains at 10, since every section has to be within 2 of the other sections you can't add a team without moving a team.
LeSeuer doesn't fit geographically with 1AA and should be in the 8 team 2AA, John Marshall was the 63rd biggest AA school last time and with Duluth Central closing making East an AA school and probably Denfeld and with Eastridge opening up 3 schools should move ito AA that weren't last season. Northfield/Artech is the biggest 1A school at 1296. The cutoff was beteween Cretin @1318 and Northfield @ 1296 (there could have been a co-op between Cretin and JM and Cretin opted up, but JM was still the 63rd largest school)
Enrollments as of this year:
Century 1676
North 1674
South 1670
Mayo 1628
Owatonna 1528
Farmington 1436
John Marshall 1366
Winona + Cotter 1567 (St. Charles is also with Winona but they can't drop Cotter so I only included them)
Dodge Cty Co-op 1576
LeSeuer Co-op 1450
Word is JM had to decide whether to opt up or not, if they are still an AA school then no one will get moved in, if they are a 1A school or opt up then odds are someone will get moved in. Northfield would be the team if they're AA but seeing as they're smaller than JM I doubt they will be. The 2 closest teams are Hastings and Rosemount from 3AA, 3AA has 9 teams now plus Eastridge should come in there as well so it would be an easy and logical move. Hastings is also in Adminstrative region 1AA and as said above already plays other sports with 1AA teams come sections. The bad part would be adding Hastings or even Rosemount does nothing to make 1AA any better, Rosemount finished behind the two Lakeville schools this season and Hastings had a losing record as well. The odds of a sub .500 team making the state tournament would go up, the complaining would then also go up. The more intriguing option would be if St. Thomas choose to opt up, they're in 1AAA for basketball. STA has said in the past they have no inclination to move up though.
LeSeuer doesn't fit geographically with 1AA and should be in the 8 team 2AA, John Marshall was the 63rd biggest AA school last time and with Duluth Central closing making East an AA school and probably Denfeld and with Eastridge opening up 3 schools should move ito AA that weren't last season. Northfield/Artech is the biggest 1A school at 1296. The cutoff was beteween Cretin @1318 and Northfield @ 1296 (there could have been a co-op between Cretin and JM and Cretin opted up, but JM was still the 63rd largest school)
Enrollments as of this year:
Century 1676
North 1674
South 1670
Mayo 1628
Owatonna 1528
Farmington 1436
John Marshall 1366
Winona + Cotter 1567 (St. Charles is also with Winona but they can't drop Cotter so I only included them)
Dodge Cty Co-op 1576
LeSeuer Co-op 1450
Word is JM had to decide whether to opt up or not, if they are still an AA school then no one will get moved in, if they are a 1A school or opt up then odds are someone will get moved in. Northfield would be the team if they're AA but seeing as they're smaller than JM I doubt they will be. The 2 closest teams are Hastings and Rosemount from 3AA, 3AA has 9 teams now plus Eastridge should come in there as well so it would be an easy and logical move. Hastings is also in Adminstrative region 1AA and as said above already plays other sports with 1AA teams come sections. The bad part would be adding Hastings or even Rosemount does nothing to make 1AA any better, Rosemount finished behind the two Lakeville schools this season and Hastings had a losing record as well. The odds of a sub .500 team making the state tournament would go up, the complaining would then also go up. The more intriguing option would be if St. Thomas choose to opt up, they're in 1AAA for basketball. STA has said in the past they have no inclination to move up though.
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:25 pm
I think one new section is being added it has Hill, STA, BSM, AHA, CDH, Breck, Duluth Marshall & Rochester Lourdes
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:42 pm
Hill is staying in 4AA. They love ending White Bear's season every year.wbhockey02 wrote:I think one new section is being added it has Hill, STA, BSM, AHA, CDH, Breck, Duluth Marshall & Rochester Lourdes
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:19 pm
Last year's cutoff was 1360, JM was at 1366.
Depending on where this year's cutoff is, and where JM's enrollment has gone, JM could be a Class A team next year.
Northfield's enrollment has been going up, but the last two years it has not been increasing at the same pace as hit had been, so who know's what's happening there. They could be A or AA.
Looking at the MSHSL AA hockey pinmap (http://mshsl.org/mshsl/googlemap.asp?ac ... &dclass=AA)
I can see why Le Sueur/St. Peter/Montgomery was put in 1AA, but agree that geographically they belong in 2AA. I think all three schools had drops in enrollment, and depending on how much of a drop, you could see them back in A next year (though I doubt it)
Depending on where this year's cutoff is, and where JM's enrollment has gone, JM could be a Class A team next year.
Northfield's enrollment has been going up, but the last two years it has not been increasing at the same pace as hit had been, so who know's what's happening there. They could be A or AA.
Looking at the MSHSL AA hockey pinmap (http://mshsl.org/mshsl/googlemap.asp?ac ... &dclass=AA)
I can see why Le Sueur/St. Peter/Montgomery was put in 1AA, but agree that geographically they belong in 2AA. I think all three schools had drops in enrollment, and depending on how much of a drop, you could see them back in A next year (though I doubt it)
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:08 pm
Hi everyone...guess you could call me a 'long time visitor, first time poster.'
I heard from a source I consider to be pretty reliable that the high school league is considering the addition of Shattuck-St. Mary's school to an existing section and allowing them to compete annually for the tourney.
Thoughts? Does this sound insane to anyone but me?
I heard from a source I consider to be pretty reliable that the high school league is considering the addition of Shattuck-St. Mary's school to an existing section and allowing them to compete annually for the tourney.
Thoughts? Does this sound insane to anyone but me?