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Class A rankings (2-2-2009)

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:54 pm
by dueling21
Here's the latest and greatest...

1. Little Falls (17-0-0)
The Flyers seem to be hitting on all cylinders at the right time, as they romped past three teams in easy fashion last week, beating Sartell-St. Stephen (7-2), Fergus Falls (8-0) and Sauk Rapids-Rice (8-0). While Little Falls has continued to score goals at a great pace, they’ve also begun to limit the damage against them. In the past seven games, the Flyers have allowed only six goals. Senior goalie Michael Sperl (17-0-0, 1.52 GAA, .933 save %) already has seven shutouts on the season to tie for the state lead in that category. Meanwhile, Ben Hanowski (41-29-70) continues his assault on Johnny Pohl’s state career scoring record. Big Ben is now 39 points shy of breaking the mark after netting eight goals and five assists in last week’s three games.

This week: Tuesday vs. Wadena-Deer Creek (7:15pm), Thursday at St. Cloud Apollo (7pm), Saturday at Detroit Lakes (7:30pm).

2. St. Thomas Academy (15-3-1)
It’s a big private school week for the Cadets, who host both Totino-Grace and Hill-Murray this week. A victory over the Pioneers Saturday should wrap up the Classic Suburban title for STA, which beat Hill-Murray 5-2 earlier this season. Last week, the Cadets routed Simley (7-1) and North St. Paul (6-2) behind three goals from Noah Gavin (8-9-17). St. Thomas Academy lost plenty of big-time talent from last year’s state champion, but the young kids have come to play, as nine of the top 10 scorers are underclassmen, led by Christian Isackson (10-26-36), Justin Crandall (17-17-34) and AJ Reid (18-13-31).

This week: Tuesday vs. Totino-Grace (7:30pm), Saturday vs. Hill-Murray (7:30pm).

3. Warroad (18-2-0)
While the biannual battle between the Warriors and Roseau takes center stage this Tuesday, Warroad can wrap up the Mariucci Conference title with two victories this week. The Warriors rebounded nicely from a tough overtime loss at Moorhead two weeks ago to beat Crookston (7-0) and edge two visiting Duluth schools (3-1 over Marshall and 2-1 over Denfeld in overtime). Those two games provided a great tournament-style test for Warroad, as both Marshall and Denfeld could find themselves with the Warriors at the X in just over a month. Big Brock Nelson (27-21-48) continued his outstanding season with three goals and five assists last week. He leads the Warriors in scoring, just ahead of Dane Shaugabay (13-29-42) and Brett Hebvel (13-26-39).

This week: Tuesday at Roseau (7:30pm), Saturday vs. East Grand Forks (4:30pm).

4. St. Cloud Cathedral (17-2-1)
Defense has been the game for the Crusaders recently, as they’ve allowed just three goals in their past eight games, netting five shutouts in that span. And they haven’t been playing bottom rung teams, either. Last week, Cathedral likely wrapped up the top seed in Section 5A over Hermantown (2-1) and then shut down Waconia (4-0) and Holy Family (7-1) – the Breakdown was at the Holy Family game and has photos and audio interviews with coach Erik Johnson, Joe Nessler and Alex Koopmeiners at http://www.mnsportspreview.com/hockey.htm. Nick Maiers (14-2-1, 1.49 GAA, .924 save %) has been nearly untouchable in nets with all seven shutouts on the season. He’s certainly helped by a rugged defense that includes U of M recruit Nate Schmidt (15-19-34), underrated Joe Nessler (4-20-24) and Jon Rowe (3-5-8). Schmidt leads the Crusaders in scoring.

This week: Tuesday vs. Orono (7pm), Friday at Delano/Rockford (7:30pm).

5. Breck (15-3-1)
The Mustangs continued to fatten up at the expense of the Tri-Metro, giving up one goal in sweeping Orono (5-1), Blake (6-0) and Minnehaha Academy (7-0) last week. It’ll likely continue this week against two teams Breck has already beaten by a combined 16-0 in the first two meetings. In an odd stat, backup goalie Max McCormick (4-0-0, 0.25 GAA, .978 save %) already has three shutouts in four games, one more than starter John Russell (11-3-1, 1.83 GAA, .926 save %) has earned in nearly four times the games. But Russell’s job is definitely not in jeopardy, as he’s been solid in big games. Tyson Fulton (14-23-37) and Joe Rehkamp (11-25-36) lead the Mustangs’ offense, which is loaded with juniors.

This week: Tuesday vs. St. Paul Johnson (7:30pm), Saturday at Providence Academy (3pm).

6. Hermantown (17-2-0)
If Hermantown was disappointed after its 2-1 loss at St. Cloud Cathedral last Monday, they certainly took it out on Lake Superior Conference rivals Proctor (8-0) and Two Harbors (8-1) later in the week. The Hawks remain an elite team capable of contending for a state title, but the race through Section 5A is going to be a battle. As they have done all season, Adam Krause (18-24-42), Cody Christpherson (19-17-36) and Kurt Peterson (11-17-28) paced the offense last week. In the win over Proctor, Krause recorded a hat trick, while Christopherson and Peterson each added two goals. Grant Huttel (11-3-14) also enjoyed the week, netting a hat trick against Two Harbors as part of a five-goal week. Huttel missed a portion of the season due to injury, but has been coming on strong as of late and makes the Hawks even more dangerous.

This week: Tuesday at Bemidji (noon), Thursday vs. Cloquet (7:30pm).

7. Virginia/MI-B (16-5-0)
The Iron Range Conference title could come down to the final game of the season, with the Blue Devils hosting Hibbing at Miners Memorial on Feb. 17. But for now, Virginia is sitting atop the standings and challenging all comers. Last week, they swept three games by an increasing margin each time over Greenway (3-2), Eveleth-Gilbert (8-1) and Silver Bay (12-1). The Blue Devils have arguably the most potent, well-rounded line in the northeast in senior Chris Westin (25-34-59), sophomore Garrett Hendrickson (18-30-48) and junior Andrew Judnick (11-20-31). Throw in junior defenseman Jordan Krebsbach (14-15-29) and you have the majority of their scoring. That quartet has combined for an amazing 28 power play goals already for coach Keith Hendrickson.

This week: Tuesday at Proctor (7:30pm), Friday vs. Greenway (7:30pm).

8. South St. Paul (12-4-3)
The Packers remain in the top-10 despite a loss to Hill-Murray (4-2) last week on the strength of their other two games, a 6-2 romp over North St. Paul and a 5-3 victory at Mahtomedi that completed a sweep of the season series from the Zephyrs. This week, South St. Paul can avenge one of its losses (5-2 to Tartan on Jan. 8), the last one suffered by the Packers until this past week’s loss to the Pioneers. Sophomore goalie Adam Wilcox (11-4-3, 2.28 GAA, .909 save %) has remained strong in nets, while senior defenseman Zach Palmquist (13-18-31) continues to lead the team in scoring over forwards Jesse Poznikowich (4-23-27), Austyn Young (8-18-26) and Trevor Mikacevich (13-9-22).

This week: Thursday vs. Sibley (7:30pm), Saturday at Tartan (3pm).

9. Alexandria (14-3-0)
If it weren’t for Little Falls, the Cardinals would be on a 16-game winning streak right now. Alexandria dropped its opening game of the season in overtime to St. Cloud Cathedral (4-3), but have only lost two one-goal games to Little Falls (4-3 and 1-0) since then. That continued last week with slim wins over Willmar (4-2), St. Cloud Apollo (5-3) and Bemidji (2-1) – the Breakdown was at the Bemidji game and has photos and an audio interview with coach Scott Woods at http://www.mnsportspreview.com/hockey.htm. Senior goalie Matt Hemingway (13-3-0, 1.63 GAA, .933 save %) isn’t big, but his fundamentals are so strong and he’s seemingly never caught out of position.

This week: Tuesday vs. St. Cloud Tech (7pm), Thursday vs. Sartell-St. Stephen (7pm), Friday vs. Brainerd (7pm).

10. Thief River Falls (13-5-2)
Like Warroad, the Prowlers also hosted two top Class A Duluth schools last week, beating Denfeld (6-2) and tying Marshall (2-2). Thief River Falls also beat East Grand Forks (6-1) last Tuesday to hang on the fringe of the state’s top-10. Junior goalie Zane Gothberg (11-4-2, 1.66 GAA, .932 save %) has had numbers among the state’s best all season. He’s played nearly every minute of every game for the Prowlers. Lucas Dillon (18-21-39) leads the scoring race, ahead of Tyler Aandal (13-14-27), Kent Peterson (10-15-25) and Matt Lindquist (13-6-19).

This week: Tuesday at Red Lake Falls (7pm), Thursday at Crookston (7:30pm), Saturday at Lake of the Woods (3pm).

11. Mahtomedi (13-5-1)
The Zephyrs only have one game this week, but it most certainly doesn’t qualify as an easy week as they host Classic Suburban power – and defending state champion – Hill-Murray. After starting the season on a roll, the Zephyrs have now lost three of their past four games, including a 5-3 defeat to South St. Paul last Saturday. In the team’s lone victory in that span, a 4-1 win at North St. Paul, Mahtomedi had balanced scoring with goals from Nick Montanari and leading scorers Ben Marshall (15-23-38), Charlie Adams (11-25-36) and Brandon Zurn (14-15-29). They’ll need more of that to get out of their funk, as well as kind of defense that limited the Polars to a single goal.

This week: Tuesday vs. Hill-Murray (7:30pm).

12. Hibbing/Chisholm (12-5-1)
Hibbing hasn’t played many games recently – it will have been a 10-day layoff when they take the ice Tuesday at Greenway – but they’re still in the thick of the Iron Range Conference race. Thursday’s tilt at International Falls should be huge, in that the loser of that game likely falls out of contention. Hopefully there won’t be any rust for Aaron Jamnick (25-17-42) and the Bluejackets’ crew.

This week: Tuesday at Greenway (7:30pm), Thursday at International Falls (7:30pm).

13. Red Wing (12-6-0)
Nobody has been hotter than senior Blake Schammel. The Breakdown’s player of the week recorded back-to-back hat tricks last week in Winger wins over Hutchinson (6-1) and Farmington (7-6). In just two games, Schammel (16-20-36) tallied six goals and six more assists for 12 points – or all but one of the Wingers’ 13 goals on the week. He’ll have to keep it up if Red Wing wants to pull into a tie for the Missota lead with Holy Angels this Friday night. The Stars are a perfect 8-0 in conference, while Red Wing is 7-1 (with the only loss to Holy Angels, 4-1, in the season opener).

This week: Tuesday vs. Prior Lake (7pm), Friday vs. Holy Angels (7pm).

14. International Falls (11-6-1)
The third contending member of the Iron Range Conference makes its way back into the rankings at No. 14 this week. The Broncos had just one game last week, but it was a doozy, a 19-0 romp over Ely on Tuesday night. Believe it or not, but not a single Frostbite Falls player had a hat trick in the game. Will Corrin, Josh Leinum, Travis Phillipe, Jon McDonald, Michael Bounds and Jace Baldwin all scored two goals, while seven other Broncos had one each. Corrin (13-17-30) leads the team in scoring, ahead of Baldwin (10-15-25), Jordan Christensen (10-13-23) and Jacob Casareto (11-7-18).

This week: Tuesday vs. Two Harbors (7:30pm), Thursday vs. Hibbing (7:30pm), Friday vs. Silver Bay (7:30pm).

15. Duluth Marshall (10-7-1)
After a string of early losses, I’ve been slow to put the Hilltoppers back in the rankings, but they earned it this week, despite losing to Warroad (3-1) and tying Thief River Falls (2-2). But it was a close call over a hot team like St. Michael-Albertville or Sartell-St. Stephen. Marshall has played one of the toughest Class A schedules in the state and has played nearly every opponent close. Whether they’ve pulled them out is another story, however. To be considered a contender, the Hilltoppers will have to start winning more than their share. They have just two double-digit goal scorers in Joe Kozlak (11-9-20) and Dane Morin (13-3-16). Pat Mahoney (4-20-24) is the leading scorer overall. The round-robin tournament of Duluth is on tap this week with games against Central and Denfeld (Duluth East is in Class AA and does not play Marshall).

This week: Tuesday vs. Duluth Central (7:30pm), Thursday vs. Duluth Denfeld (7:30pm).

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:20 pm
by mikemodano09
everything looks pretty good except I have to move SCC ahead of Warroad just because they beat them.. otherwise great job

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:39 pm
by deacon
Little Falls at #1..........?

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:44 pm
by Lucia4President
deacon wrote:Little Falls at #1..........?
I know how you feel. :-k

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:46 pm
by dueling21
deacon wrote:Little Falls at #1..........?
I think we should just reference last week's "discussion" about that subject...and try to move on with other topics in this one. There's a handful who remain unconvinced and a handful that are convinced the Flyers are No. 1. And I believe they agreed to disagree.

How about this instead...what about having the IRC represented by three teams (Virginia, Hibbing and I-Falls), the LSC by two (Hermantown and Marshall), the Mariucci by two (Warroad and TRF) and the Central Lakes by two (Alex and Little Falls)? Everybody like seeing that many northern clubs in the rankings?

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:51 pm
by dueling21
mikemodano09 wrote:everything looks pretty good except I have to move SCC ahead of Warroad just because they beat them.. otherwise great job
Nothing against the Crusaders, but I've seen both clubs play and was more impressed with Warroad than Cathedral...'course, that was likely just a factor of how they played on that day. As you say, the Crusaders did win head-to-head.

I'm hoping to post a story on the Crusaders mid-week on the Hockey Hub and the Breakdown, for those who are interested.

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:04 pm
by sinbin006
dueling21 wrote:6. Hermantown (17-2-0)
If Hermantown was disappointed after its 2-1 loss at St. Cloud Cathedral last Monday, they certainly took it out on Lake Superior Conference rivals Proctor (8-0) and Two Harbors (8-1) later in the week. The Hawks remain an elite team capable of contending for a state title, but the race through Section 5A is going to be a battle. As they have done all season, Adam Krause (18-24-42), Cody Christpherson (19-17-36) and Kurt Peterson (11-17-28 ) paced the offense last week. In the win over Proctor, Krause recorded a hat trick, while Christopherson and Peterson each added two goals. Grant Huttel (11-3-14) also enjoyed the week, netting a hat trick against Two Harbors as part of a five-goal week. Huttel missed a portion of the season due to injury, but has been coming on strong as of late and makes the Hawks even more dangerous.

This week: Tuesday at Bemidji (7:30pm), Thursday vs. Cloquet (7:30pm).

rankings

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:06 pm
by nungitchida
looks good except, 1 and 2 switch them and your right on,St Thomas plays a lot tougher schedule they deserve 1 and as far as switching Warroad and St Cloud Cathedral I think they are fine, maybe put Breck ahead of St Cloud

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:25 pm
by warriors41
mikemodano09 wrote:everything looks pretty good except I have to move SCC ahead of Warroad just because they beat them.. otherwise great job
This game was a long time ago and Warroad has proved quite a bot since then. I mean it's not like they played last week. Both teams have gotten better. Remember, the score was 3-2 but then Cathedral got an empty netter. Realistically a one goal game, I think that the head to head argument can be laid to rest now. Besides, the warriors also had a string of like 5 games in 6 days when they played them. They were dead tired.

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:38 pm
by SargeyWargey09
Not to mention the refs in that game, they gave that peiper kid a five minute penalty in the third? a little sketchy!

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:15 am
by HShockeywatcher
dueling, why can't you at least comment on the things that are being said? In the discussions of it you haven't even posted so your input isn't involved.

You started your rankings right after St Thomas beat Hill Murray 1-12-09 with Little Falls #1 and St Thomas #2. Fine. Since then St Thomas tied South St Paul, beat Lourdes, beat Mahtomedi and shut out Tartan. Little Falls shut out Alex, but that is all they have done. My question isn't why they were at #1, my question is why they retain #1 with their wimpy schedule and with what St Thomas is doing at the same time. Karl adjusts his rankings on a weekly basic based on games that happened.

This week St Thomas plays Totino and Hill. Little Falls plays Wadena, Apollo and Detroit Lakes. If they both win all their games, what does that say about the two relatively?

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:24 am
by gophers101
Looks good! I do think Virginia should be around 9 or 10 but pretty much right on. And on the Marshall note, they have played much better since their 5-2 drubbing to the hands of HIbbing.

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:06 am
by dherman8
HShockeywatcher wrote:dueling, why can't you at least comment on the things that are being said? In the discussions of it you haven't even posted so your input isn't involved.

You started your rankings right after St Thomas beat Hill Murray 1-12-09 with Little Falls #1 and St Thomas #2. Fine. Since then St Thomas tied South St Paul, beat Lourdes, beat Mahtomedi and shut out Tartan. Little Falls shut out Alex, but that is all they have done. My question isn't why they were at #1, my question is why they retain #1 with their wimpy schedule and with what St Thomas is doing at the same time. Karl adjusts his rankings on a weekly basic based on games that happened.

This week St Thomas plays Totino and Hill. Little Falls plays Wadena, Apollo and Detroit Lakes. If they both win all their games, what does that say about the two relatively?
Don't listen to any of these guys dueling.

We already discussed the STA/LF argument guys........come on.........just quit.

You're doing a good job dueling. I'm glad someone is doing a post like this. These rankings have been helping me get a feel for some of these teams being I don't know some of them all that well. Keep up the good work.

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:23 am
by TheBlizzard
What he is doing in fine for this site but all he is doing is copying and then pasting the information from the Minnesota Hockey Hub.

Somebody else does these rankings; and yeah Little Falls at #1 is crazy; I don't care if it's beating a dead horse, they should be in the rankings somewhere but #1 is a stretch.

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/page/show_ar ... 2770/22513

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:27 am
by southernmnscout
dueling21 wrote:I'm hoping to post a story on the Crusaders mid-week on the Hockey Hub and the Breakdown, for those who are interested.
TheBlizzard----maybe you should read everything before you make stupid comments. And this has been said before too!!


Good work dueling21!! Keep it up!

Yes, Virginia, it is me

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:21 pm
by dueling21
TheBlizzard wrote:What he is doing in fine for this site but all he is doing is copying and then pasting the information from the Minnesota Hockey Hub.

Somebody else does these rankings; and yeah Little Falls at #1 is crazy; I don't care if it's beating a dead horse, they should be in the rankings somewhere but #1 is a stretch.

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/page/show_ar ... 2770/22513
Did it occur to you that I'm the one writing these rankings for the Hockey Hub?

And as far as Little Falls, that discussion has been beaten to death and I'm not going to restart it. Many people, me included, think they're the top team. Many others don't. I understand your arguments and agree to disagree.

A few points on it, though:

1. St. Thomas Academy has an extremely difficult schedule, but they have slipped up against a couple of teams they were favored over.

2. Little Falls' schedule isn't as bad as most portray it, and they haven't had a slip yet.

3. I've seen both teams and I think if they played this week, it would be a helluva game. The Flyers have great senior leadership, but not as much depth as the Cadets, who are led by some very talented juniors and sophomores. Could St. Thomas Academy win the game? Absolutely. But the rankings reflect both teams' accomplishments to this point in the season. In that, Little Falls is unblemished while the Cadets are not.

Jefferson?

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:31 pm
by dueling21
I believe the same argument is taking place on the Class AA rankings between the Jefferson and Centennial backers...

And if there weren't disagreements, this would be an awfully boring exercise.

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:08 pm
by elliott70
TheBlizzard wrote:What he is doing in fine for this site but all he is doing is copying and then pasting the information from the Minnesota Hockey Hub.

Somebody else does these rankings; and yeah Little Falls at #1 is crazy; I don't care if it's beating a dead horse, they should be in the rankings somewhere but #1 is a stretch.

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/page/show_ar ... 2770/22513
But he is doing it.

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:13 pm
by elliott70
I don't agree Little Falls is number 1.
I think they are #2 and Warroad is #1.
I think STA is rated too high.
I think Hibbing is rated to low.

When and if I get to it I'll post my rankings.
But the circular arguments why LF is not #1 and STA s/b #1 are old.
We have heard them.
If you have na opinion, fine voice it, put up your rankings.
But unless we get a play-off at the end of the year, we will not know who is #1 and #2 and #3.

Oh, yes, we do get to see it (at least to a degree).
And I enjoy seeing it in person every March.

Until then dueling is doing a great job and I appreciate it, even if I don't entirely agree.

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:55 pm
by southernmnscout
elliott70 wrote:I don't agree Little Falls is number 1.
I think they are #2 and Warroad is #1.
I think STA is rated too high.
I think Hibbing is rated to low.

When and if I get to it I'll post my rankings.
But the circular arguments why LF is not #1 and STA s/b #1 are old.
We have heard them.
If you have na opinion, fine voice it, put up your rankings.
But unless we get a play-off at the end of the year, we will not know who is #1 and #2 and #3.

Oh, yes, we do get to see it (at least to a degree).
And I enjoy seeing it in person every March.

Until then dueling is doing a great job and I appreciate it, even if I don't entirely agree.

EXACTLY!!

Now everyone just leave the STA/LF arguments alone and if you dont like what dueling21 is doing just post your own or don't read them when they come out every week!

Re: Yes, Virginia, it is me

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:08 pm
by deacon
dueling21 wrote:
TheBlizzard wrote:What he is doing in fine for this site but all he is doing is copying and then pasting the information from the Minnesota Hockey Hub.

Somebody else does these rankings; and yeah Little Falls at #1 is crazy; I don't care if it's beating a dead horse, they should be in the rankings somewhere but #1 is a stretch.

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/page/show_ar ... 2770/22513
Did it occur to you that I'm the one writing these rankings for the Hockey Hub?

And as far as Little Falls, that discussion has been beaten to death and I'm not going to restart it. Many people, me included, think they're the top team. Many others don't. I understand your arguments and agree to disagree.

A few points on it, though:

1. St. Thomas Academy has an extremely difficult schedule, but they have slipped up against a couple of teams they were favored over.

2. Little Falls' schedule isn't as bad as most portray it, and they haven't had a slip yet.

3. I've seen both teams and I think if they played this week, it would be a helluva game. The Flyers have great senior leadership, but not as much depth as the Cadets, who are led by some very talented juniors and sophomores. Could St. Thomas Academy win the game? Absolutely. But the rankings reflect both teams' accomplishments to this point in the season. In that, Little Falls is unblemished while the Cadets are not.
I appreciate what you do, but I don't think STA was favored or Centennial or AHA, 2 of their 3 losses. Come to think of it, they probably weren't even favored against Duluth Marshall in their first game of the year on the road. But, as it has been stated, we've agreed to disagree.

Re: Yes, Virginia, it is me

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:32 pm
by High Flyer
Strength of Schedule Ranking (156 teams total)

LF 65
STA 8
Warroad 9
SCC 56
Breck 53
Hermantown 40
Virg. 74
Alex. 66
Thief 75
Maht. 41
Hib. 51
Red W. 54
I Falls 70
DM 31

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:43 pm
by Stealth
On the USHSO web page they started a NEW rating broken down by “A” & “AA”. This is what they have for this week.

1,St Thomas Academy,MN A,4
2,Warroad,MN,_______ A,8
3,Hermantown,MN,____ A,5
4,Little Falls,MN,______ A,6
5,Breck,MN,_________ A,2
6,St Cloud Cathedral,MN,_ A,5
7,Thief River Falls,MN,__ A,8
8,Alexandria,MN,________ A,6
9,Mahtomedi,MN,__________ A,4
10,South St Paul,MN,______ A,4
11,Duluth Marshall,MN,____ A,7
12,Rochester Lourdes,MN,_ A,1
13,Virginia,MN,___________ A,7
14,Hibbing,MN,____________ A,7
15,Red Wing,MN,___________ A,1
16,Sartell,MN,____________ A,6
17,New Prague,MN,_________ A,1
18,Duluth Denfeld,MN,_____ A,5
19,Mound-Westonka,MN,_____ A,2
20,International Falls,MN,____ A,7

Dueling21, I like your post each week.

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:55 pm
by Mite-dad
elliott70 wrote:I don't agree Little Falls is number 1.
I think they are #2 and Warroad is #1.
I think STA is rated too high.
I think Hibbing is rated to low.

When and if I get to it I'll post my rankings.
But the circular arguments why LF is not #1 and STA s/b #1 are old.
We have heard them.
If you have na opinion, fine voice it, put up your rankings.
But unless we get a play-off at the end of the year, we will not know who is #1 and #2 and #3.

Oh, yes, we do get to see it (at least to a degree).
And I enjoy seeing it in person every March.
How can you put Warroad at 1? I'd like to see your justification for that. Just curious.
Until then dueling is doing a great job and I appreciate it, even if I don't entirely agree.
How can you put Warroad #1? Just curious what your justification is.

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:25 pm
by HShockeywatcher
"St. Thomas Academy has an extremely difficult schedule, but they have slipped up against a COUPLE of teams they were favored over"

Like deacon said, which games were they favored for? They definitely weren't favored for either the Centennial or Holy Angels game, and with all the talent lost from last year I was thinking DM should be favored, or be pretty even, for the DM game.

I like how you dodged my question, pretty slick there.

I do like that the rankings come out. No one is going to agree with everyone's rankings and they create controversy and discussion, which should be friendly discussion, but instead turns into disrespectful arguing, which is an issue with a lot of posters on this board.