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Anybody aware of any teams losing players to the high school level starting next Monday?

Im not talking teams that have lost players before the season, Im wondering about players leaving mid season for the High School Ranks.

what is the ruling: Can a Bantam player participate with his Bantam team, if they are in the middle of High School tryouts ???

Nope. They have to shut it down for the week.

actually I believe it is up to each associations. Some say if you step on the ice with Hogh School you are done and others welcome you back. I don't see why you couldn't skate both during tryouts if your association is ok with it.

I know Apple Valley still has 5 freshman still left with the 23 possible varsity players.

Not all will make it, the coach has done this before and drops some if not all when the scrimmages are over, it's used more as an early look for next year for the ones he doesn't take which should be most of them that he drops, I could see 2 making it.

[quote="hockeyjunkie2"]I know Apple Valley still has 5 freshman still left with the 23 possible varsity players.

Not all will make it, the coach has done this before and drops some if not all when the scrimmages are over, it's used more as an early look for next year for the ones he doesn't take which should be most of them that he drops, I could see 2 making it.[/quote]

Junk
- i think AV has four left... 3 skaters and a goalie.... good experience for all those freshmen to go thru tryouts.

Anybody know if MPLS PK lost any of their players? They have had a great start to the year...

What is the theory on kids going to HS versus staying with their bantam team? My 10th grader got cut and will return to his Bantam A team. All is good, but the more I think about it, 24 games at JV versus 40+ at Bantam, it is kind of a draw. Or is it............

Jrmom wrote:What is the theory on kids going to HS versus staying with their bantam team? My 10th grader got cut and will return to his Bantam A team. All is good, but the more I think about it, 24 games at JV versus 40+ at Bantam, it is kind of a draw. Or is it............

If your Kid has never played Bantam A before then it would be worth staying at Bantams.

My oldest child played JV as 10th grader after playing 2 full years at Bantam A. He played Varsity a few times only a couple shifts in games. If he was able to play another year of Bantams I would say stay back at Bantams. Unless you think your kid has a strong chance at being called up to Varsity. Cheaper playing JV. NO TRAVEL TO PRACTICES

Jrmom wrote:What is the theory on kids going to HS versus staying with their bantam team? My 10th grader got cut and will return to his Bantam A team. All is good, but the more I think about it, 24 games at JV versus 40+ at Bantam, it is kind of a draw. Or is it............

They may get more games at Bantams, but it is definitely less expensive to play HS.

Upside to JV vs Bantams

JV hockey is right after school, a kid is likely home at a decent time and the family can eat dinner together, the player can do homework, the play can get to bed a decent time, cost is cheap

VS

Bantam hockey is from 9-10 pm or some other crazy time, usually included off ice prior for up to an hour, your kid constantly gets unwound at 1040 at night, homework gets pushed left, sleep becomes a need, cost can add up with you throw in 5-6 tournaments

just some points....

The 7 freshmen from Apple Valley looked good in their scrimage today.

sniper87 wrote:The 7 freshmen from Apple Valley looked good in their scrimage today.

7 of them? that seems on the high end from the 5 I heard and then the 4 someone else thought.

Four skaters from the Bantam A team, one goalie from Bantam A, and the two skaters that didn't tryout for Bantams.

sniper87 wrote:Four skaters from the Bantam A team, one goalie from Bantam A, and the two skaters that didn't tryout for Bantams.

Ok thanks for the clear up, I was able to talk with one of the players today about it also.

On the flip side, if you try out for the high school team and during (or after) tryouts play in a bantam game then make the high school team you'll kiss 6 weeks of high school goodbye for a MSHSL rules violation.

Rumor has it Edina Bantam A will lose one of its D to Hill Murray Varsity.
That's a big jump, good luck PEEP

Not really such a big jump. He played two years at Shattuck. I think the month of Bantam A was probably just to warm up for the HM High School tryouts. Can't imagine he really had any intention of playing Bantams again!! Especially since the Edina team is pretty light this year from reports on this board. If the rumor is true - congrats!! He's a nice player.

[quote="goldy313"]On the flip side, if you try out for the high school team and during (or after) tryouts play in a bantam game then make the high school team you'll kiss 6 weeks of high school goodbye for a MSHSL rules violation.[/quote]


Goldy - could you quote what rule that is from MSHSL? Maybe even provide the text? Not saying it isn't a rule, just curious as to what the exact rule is.

208.00 Non school competiton and training

A. A student who is a memeber of a high school team may not particiapate as an individual or as a member of a non school team in the same sport during the high school season. Participation is defined as practice, tryouts, scrimmage, or competition.

First violation 2 weeks or 2 contests( I was wrong on that)
Second violation 3 weeks or 6 contests
third violation 4 weeks or 12 contests

Each particiaption counts as an offense, so if you go to 2 practices with a youth team, 2 violations.

Ouch!! At least they secured a couple quality D2 wins and cracked the top 20 in LPH before they all moved on.

goldy313 wrote:208.00 Non school competiton and training

A. A student who is a memeber of a high school team may not particiapate as an individual or as a member of a non school team in the same sport during the high school season. Participation is defined as practice, tryouts, scrimmage, or competition.

First violation 2 weeks or 2 contests( I was wrong on that)
Second violation 3 weeks or 6 contests
third violation 4 weeks or 12 contests

Each particiaption counts as an offense, so if you go to 2 practices with a youth team, 2 violations.

Are you saying if you are on a Bantam team and you go to tryouts and make H.S or JV that you will have to sit out because you started the season at bantams. As long as kid doesn't go back to bantams what is the problem.

Sorry to hear that bogeyman and it is too bad for your Bantam A program. Too bad that some of these called high school "adults" run roughshod on programs in the state. Well I guess when you are judge and jury you can do whatever the hell you want. I am sure the kids are thrilled about this move
That is just wrong

[quote="northwoods oldtimer"]Sorry to hear that bogeyman and it is too bad for your Bantam A program. Too bad that some of these called high school "adults" run roughshod on programs in the state. Well I guess when you are judge and jury you can do whatever the hell you want. I am sure the kids are thrilled about this move
That is just wrong [/quote]

Just another thing wrong with MN hockey. Kids show up, get 'spring training' in by literally 'using' their youth hockey program (that has supported them for years), and then leave the program in disarray.

Not only is this damaging to the A team, think about the B team that has been gelling and now gets 4-5 of their players ripped away to high school. These 5 players have screwed over their buddies on A, as well as the B team.

Shame on the high school coaches and shame on parents/players that abuse youth hockey programs and leave them scrambling and in shambles after they make a selfish decision.

[quote="CoachJ"][quote="goldy313"]208.00 Non school competiton and training

A. A student who is a memeber of a high school team may not particiapate as an individual or as a member of a non school team in the same sport during the high school season. Participation is defined as practice, tryouts, scrimmage, or competition.

First violation 2 weeks or 2 contests( I was wrong on that)
Second violation 3 weeks or 6 contests
third violation 4 weeks or 12 contests

Each particiaption counts as an offense, so if you go to 2 practices with a youth team, 2 violations.[/quote]


Are you saying if you are on a Bantam team and you go to tryouts and make H.S or JV that you will have to sit out because you started the season at bantams. As long as kid doesn't go back to bantams what is the problem.[/quote]

I think what he is saying that if you tryout for JV or Varsity, and during the course of this tryout, or after the completion of the tryout, you practice or play with your Bantam team; you miss two weeks for the first practice/game, five weeks (total) for the second practice/game, and nine weeks (total) for the third practice/game.