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Posted: **Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:37 pm**

Who do you think are the best 96 players. Are there any kids other than machine kids that are any good?

Posted: **Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:02 pm**

wyatt peterson and judd davis from new ulm... they play for the icemen and stingers!

Posted: **Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:22 pm**

OreoSlaper09 wrote:wyatt peterson and judd davis from new ulm... they play for the icemen and stingers!

Not in baseball...he means hockey.

Posted: **Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:10 pm**

Are there any kids on the machine that are any good? That is a good question, I dont think so.

Posted: **Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:16 pm**

[quote="cageballs17"]Are there any kids on the machine that are any good? That is a good question, I dont think so.[/quote

I thought the machine team had the best players in the state. They win all of the tournaments and everyone wants to be on that team. Bernie has an eye for talent. So, if they don't have anyone that can play, who can at the 96 level????

Posted: **Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:41 pm**

coach95 wrote:
cageballs17 wrote:Are there any kids on the machine that are any good? That is a good question, I dont think so.[/quote

I thought the machine team had the best players in the state. They win all of the tournaments and everyone wants to be on that team. Bernie has an eye for talent. So, if they don't have anyone that can play, who can at the 96 level????
You are not much of a coach (or scout or fan) if you do not already know that there are a lot of talented players at the 1996 level. Is there any particular name you are hoping to see put to print by means of this board? Don't forget the courtesy and expectation of "no mention of minor's name". Yes, the Machine is talented and has a few elite players (currently) on their team complimented by several serviceable yet interchangeable (replaceable) players, but who knows who will be where, developmentally, a year or two or three down the road. Not everyone has orange dreams or a desire to be a part of the Machine team or Bernie Brigade at Minnesota Made. As time marches on we will likely see some burnout or lack of progression among the little stars of today (hopefully not since hockey is F-U-N or at least should be). Aside from the Machine, you have the likes of the Blades, Cyclones, Deuce and Icemen among many other teams that have top end and talented players at the 1996 level. Get out to a rink or two next summer and enjoy. Or would you rather go fishing (by means of the board)?

Posted: **Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:59 pm**

simply said fred wrote:
coach95 wrote:
cageballs17 wrote:Are there any kids on the machine that are any good? That is a good question, I dont think so.[/quote

I thought the machine team had the best players in the state. They win all of the tournaments and everyone wants to be on that team. Bernie has an eye for talent. So, if they don't have anyone that can play, who can at the 96 level????
You are not much of a coach (or scout or fan) if you do not already know that there are a lot of talented players at the 1996 level. Is there any particular name you are hoping to see put to print by means of this board? Don't forget the courtesy and expectation of "no mention of minor's name". Yes, the Machine is talented and has a few elite players (currently) on their team complimented by several serviceable yet interchangeable (replaceable) players, but who knows who will be where, developmentally, a year or two or three down the road. Not everyone has orange dreams or a desire to be a part of the Machine team or Bernie Brigade at Minnesota Made. As time marches on we will likely see some burnout or lack of progression among the little stars of today (hopefully not since hockey is F-U-N or at least should be). Aside from the Machine, you have the likes of the Blades, Cyclones, Deuce and Icemen among many other teams that have top end and talented players at the 1996 level. Get out to a rink or two next summer and enjoy. Or would you rather go fishing (by means of the board)?
great post Fred! It's fairly obvious that the 96 birth year parents are not going to air their issues in public, regardless of which team their kids are affiliated with. kudos to them.

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:01 pm**

Tyler Nanne - Edina

Shane Gersich - Chaska

Best 96 hand down

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:18 pm**

Edina plays with his head down,doesnt see the whole ice and misses open teamates when the game is on the line.Chaska kid played squirts and wouldnt or shouldnt be comsidered a top flite Pee Wee prospect or player.

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:38 pm**

Central Scouting wrote:Edina plays with his head down,doesnt see the whole ice and misses open teamates when the game is on the line.

Just curious when you made this observation. Was it in that "nail biter" Easton Cup game that you scouted?

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:48 pm**

That was the first time at the Easton Cup that I observed that situation rearing its ugly head, thought hey anybody can be a little off at any given time then it reared its ugly head again at THE STARS AND STRIPES,NO LONGER JUST A COINCIDENCE. could be problematic not sure yet.

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:02 pm**

CS, Stars & Stripes was before the Easton Cup. The Easton Cup game you profess to scouting was 20-0. Not a good game to make observations about what a player does when the game is on the line. Your story does not add up.

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:56 pm**

spin-o-rama wrote:CS, Stars & Stripes was before the Easton Cup. The Easton Cup game you profess to scouting was 20-0. Not a good game to make observations about what a player does when the game is on the line. Your story does not add up.

Sounds like a we have a bias "non" fan and a bias "fan".

Either way the Edina kid is decent (wouldn't rank him as the best by a far shot) player, but there are a lot in the state in the 95/96 age group.

Deep pool and good problem to have.

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:24 pm**

Let me add something here. Bronc, don't mix 1995s with 1996s. Here's what you'll see in the future. Think spring 2009. In the spring, half of the 1995 boys will have played their first year of Bantam, some A. The after July 1, 1995 boys will have played another year of PeeWee. You'll see a big difference in the spring when they get together for 1995 AAA. The ones that have completed a year of Bantam, maybe A, are extremely easy to pick out from the bunch that played PeeWee. Some are bigger, stronger and faster but the style of play is entirely different. Only the very best after July 1, 1995s, will fit with the ones that have completed their first year of Bantam. The difference of speed in the Bantam to PeeWee game is huge! Another part is the physical game as PeeWees bump and Bantams try and kill you. You see it at PeeWee when there's a couple of great Squirt kids on every team that want nothing to do with the contact. They flick the puck and run. It's a shocking eye opener when you see it which is frequently. Game over for them.

Any player with a birthdate after July 1 has a very tough road in the AAA game. Top AAA teams have very few players with birthdays after July 1. Older level Blades? Just a few and they're special. Check this roster from the 1994 Chicago Mission, where they don't even use the July 1 date like Minnesota. In Illinois they skate together by birthyear so they've played at the same level as opposed to Minnesota where they haven't. Doesn't make any difference.

http://www.chicagomission.com/teams/94.htm

16 with birthdays before July 1 and 2 players with birthdays after July 1. AAA teams go through a big transition during the PeeWee/Bantam years and some of the skilled Squirts get left behind.

The 1996 Machine is a great example. I've seen them and they're good. But, they're mostly the little skill guys that started skating when they were 3. A team of Smurfs with only a few boys that have grown. No wonder they're going through turnover.

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:24 pm**

Well said. The game changes and many of the small guys that were effective in squirts and 1st year pee-wees will start to fall off. I have heard that the machine is letting go of players for this exact reason. They are afraid to hit or get hit. Their game is over. You can't coach that. Size is a big factor as they get older!

Posted: **Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:22 am**

coach95 wrote:Well said. The game changes and many of the small guys that were effective in squirts and 1st year pee-wees will start to fall off. I have heard that the machine is letting go of players for this exact reason. They are afraid to hit or get hit. Their game is over. You can't coach that. Size is a big factor as they get older!

Size is a factor, but size doesn't always dictate how aggressive a kid is. And when you are talking about size, you have to consider strength as well as height. I know some smaller kids who have hit puberty who are thicker and stronger than some of the taller "bean pole" players. I've seem big kids who are soft and smaller kids who are more aggressive. IMO, speed is a more important factor than size. You can't be soft, but you have to be fast especially when you get to Bantams.

Posted: **Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:39 am**

central scouting if you dont think the chaska kid is or should be considerd a top prospect for peewees you should change your handle. you wouldnt know a hockey player from a soccer player with a set of field glasses at ice level.

Posted: **Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:44 am**

central scouting if you dont think the chaska kid is or should be considerd a top prospect for peewees you should change your handle. you wouldnt know a hockey player from a soccer player with a set of field glasses at ice level.

It must be that kids Roseau roots that got you going!

Posted: **Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:48 am**

i dont care where the kids roots lie its a fact...

Posted: **Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:16 pm**

keegan iverson idk where hes from

hes a giant with very good hands and shot
he is a huge force on the ice
he was on the icemen this year

Posted: **Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:54 pm**

blainehockeymom wrote:keegan iverson idk where hes from

hes a giant with very good hands and shot
he is a huge force on the ice
he was on the icemen this year

Yea he's from St. Louis Park I believe. I saw him at some Icemen events and that kids is a big and likes to hit. He also is a good skater for his size at his age.

Posted: **Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:12 pm**

goinbardown wrote:
blainehockeymom wrote:keegan iverson idk where hes from

hes a giant with very good hands and shot
he is a huge force on the ice
he was on the icemen this year
Yea he's from St. Louis Park I believe. I saw him at some Icemen events and that kids is a big and likes to hit. He also is a good skater for his size at his age.

He was invisable when he played against the Machine.

Posted: **Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:53 pm**

Keegan Iverson is from Southwest MPLS...he plays for MPLS Park. He has played up a lot...this should make him tough to play against.

Kevin Wolf is from Langford and is playing up a level at Bantam A. he should develop into a stud to be dealt with in the future. Not many 96's can play defense at the Bantam A level and come back without a huge experience factor.

Posted: **Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:04 pm**

ctbrow1 wrote:Keegan Iverson is from Southwest MPLS...he plays for MPLS Park. He has played up a lot...this should make him tough to play against.

Kevin Wolf is from Langford and is playing up a level at Bantam A. he should develop into a stud to be dealt with in the future. Not many 96's can play defense at the Bantam A level and come back without a huge experience factor.

Iverson is a tough kid. can go D or forward and is a scoring threat. fun to watch and his team is tough

Posted: **Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:07 am**

jack walker from 96 machine is the best. he dominates the 95 league.

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