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I am going to try...
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:49 pm
by boblee
It seems to me like LPH is getting close, but still not there. I am going to take a shot at my own AA rankings. I will be very open to feedback and criticism. I know I haven't seen every team, but here is my offer....
LPH Rankings in parenthesis:
1. Roseville (1)
2. Stillwater (2)
3. Eden Prairie (3)
4. Grand Rapids/Greenway (4)
5. Edina (7)
6. Hopkins (5)
7. Holy Angels (6)
8. Duluth (15)
9. Wayzata ( 8 )
10. Proctor/Hermantown/Marshall (NR)
11. Eagan (9)
12. Cloquet (16)
13. Blaine (14)
14. Benilde-St. Margaret's (13)
15. Irondale (12)
16. Hill-Murray ( 18 )
17. White Bear Lake (20)
18. Centennial (11)
19. Elk River (10)
20. Hastings (NR)
I know that this jumbles everything even more...but I was just wondering what people thought. I know I will catch grief about ER and Cent. Well, critique...
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:15 pm
by hockeyheaven
Not bad not bad at all. Tough to argue with. Blaine has picked up their play as of late but should not be ranked higher then WBL or Hill. Actually Centennial has not really shown anything to justify a higher ranking, partly because they haven’t beat anyone of any significance since their first game. With all due respect to Roseville and Stillwater (they defiantly disserve the high ranking) it’s just that after watching EP play I have a hard time putting anyone ahead of them. Time will tell, time will tell.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:24 pm
by joehockey
Boblee not sure what the smiley faces mean for Wayzata and Hill Murray what are they ranked in your mind?
post 9503
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:25 pm
by boblee
hockeyheaven wrote:Not bad not bad at all. Tough to argue with. Blaine has picked up their play as of late but should not be ranked higher then WBL or Hill. Actually Centennial has not really shown anything to justify a higher ranking, partly because they haven’t beat anyone of any significance since their first game. With all due respect to Roseville and Stillwater (they defiantly disserve the high ranking) it’s just that after watching EP play I have a hard time putting anyone ahead of them. Time will tell, time will tell.
I will try to justify...
Roseville: They have beaten #2, #3, and #4 in their most recent meetings against each other.
Blaine: I look at the way they played in the Edina Holiday Tournament compared to Hill-Murray. Plus, big win over ER. But, you may be right. WBL is coming on strong, but need to stay consistent now. You may be on to something.
post 9504
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:26 pm
by boblee
joehockey wrote:Boblee not sure what the smiley faces mean for Wayzata and Hill Murray what are they ranked in your mind?
I have Wayzata at 9 (LPH had them at

, and WBL at 16 (LPH has them at 18)
Re: post 9504
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:19 pm
by PASTRAPIDSFAN
boblee wrote:joehockey wrote:Boblee not sure what the smiley faces mean for Wayzata and Hill Murray what are they ranked in your mind?
I have Wayzata at 9 (LPH had them at

, and WBL at 16 (LPH has them at 18)
looks good,I like THE BOBLEE RANKINGS Makes sense.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:48 pm
by keepitreal
joehockey wrote:Boblee not sure what the smiley faces mean for Wayzata and Hill Murray what are they ranked in your mind?
Need to put a space between a parenthesis and the number 8 or the system interprets it as an emoticon, i.e. >

post 9517
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:49 pm
by boblee
keepitreal wrote:joehockey wrote:Boblee not sure what the smiley faces mean for Wayzata and Hill Murray what are they ranked in your mind?
Need to put a space between a parenthesis and the number 8 or the system interprets it as an emoticon, i.e. >

Yeah. I fixed the rankings post. Too lazy to fix the other one.
Re: I am going to try...
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:40 pm
by hockeytime40
boblee wrote:It seems to me like LPH is getting close, but still not there. I am going to take a shot at my own AA rankings. I will be very open to feedback and criticism. I know I haven't seen every team, but here is my offer....
LPH Rankings in parenthesis:
1. Roseville (1)
2. Stillwater (2)
3. Eden Prairie (3)
4. Grand Rapids/Greenway (4)
5. Edina (7)
6. Hopkins (5)
7. Holy Angels (6)
8. Duluth (15)
9. Wayzata ( 8 )
10. Proctor/Hermantown/Marshall (NR)
11. Eagan (9)
12. Cloquet (16)
13. Blaine (14)
14. Benilde-St. Margaret's (13)
15. Irondale (12)
16. Hill-Murray ( 18 )
17. White Bear Lake (20)
18. Centennial (11)
19. Elk River (10)
20. Hastings (NR)
I know that this jumbles everything even more...but I was just wondering what people thought. I know I will catch grief about ER and Cent. Well, critique...
I'd have to pretty much agree - looks pretty good!
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:03 pm
by twowayplay
Why is BSM rated behind Duluth, Wayzata, Cloquet & Blaine? They beat each of these teams handily
4-1 over Duluth
5-0 over Wayzata
3-0 over Cloquet
7-2 over Blaine
I realize they had a terrible Edina tourney but what gives?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:18 pm
by MNHockeyFan
twowayplay wrote:Why is BSM rated behind Duluth, Wayzata, Cloquet & Blaine? They beat each of these teams handily
4-1 over Duluth
5-0 over Wayzata
3-0 over Cloquet
7-2 over Blaine
I realize they had a terrible Edina tourney but what gives?
BSM has really picked it up since the Edina Tournament, when missing key players, dumb penalties, and missed opportunties all led to three consecutive defeats. But since then they've outscored their last four conference opponents by a combined score of 27-2, including a 3-0 win over Irondale. They have made some lineup changes, have all of their key players back and are now running on all cylinders.
post 9543
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:38 am
by boblee
twowayplay wrote:Why is BSM rated behind Duluth, Wayzata, Cloquet & Blaine? They beat each of these teams handily
4-1 over Duluth
5-0 over Wayzata
3-0 over Cloquet
7-2 over Blaine
I realize they had a terrible Edina tourney but what gives?
It isn't all about head to head, but you make good arguments. I will have an updated set tomorrow after a lot of games today.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:20 pm
by tomASS
Do or Do not.........there is no try!

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:16 pm
by trojangoalie241
twowayplay wrote:Why is BSM rated behind Duluth, Wayzata, Cloquet & Blaine? They beat each of these teams handily
4-1 over Duluth
5-0 over Wayzata
3-0 over Cloquet
7-2 over Blaine
I realize they had a terrible Edina tourney but what gives?
when did BSM play Duluth?
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:34 pm
by hockeymaven
What is your rationale for not including Blake?
post 9569
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:38 pm
by boblee
hockeymaven wrote:What is your rationale for not including Blake?
Good question. I am only attempting AA rankings.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:23 pm
by joehockey
Lastest Rankings by QRF
Rankings: January 21, 2008
1 Eden Prairie (19-1-1) 114.4
2 Edina (14-5-2) 105.9
3 Grand Rapids/Greenway (18-2-2) 103.6
4 Roseville (16-3-2) 103.2
5 Holy Angels (15-4-0) 101.1
6 Stillwater Area (17-2-2) 98.3
7 Hopkins (17-3-2) 91.9
8 White Bear Lake (11-7-3) 91.3
9 Eagan (14-6-1) 87.9
10 Centennial (17-4-0) 85.6
11 Proctor/Herm./Dul. Marshall (16-3-2) 85.4
T-12 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton (9-8-3) 84.3
T-12 Hill-Murray (14-5-1) 84.3
14 Duluth Area (12-4-4) 83.3
15 Wayzata (11-5-6) 82.5
16 Benilde-St. Margaret's (14-6-0) 80.8
T-17 Blaine (14-7-1) 80.3
T-17 Elk River (14-3-2) 80.3
19 Minnetonka (12-8-1) 78.6
20 Moorhead (12-5-1) 77.4
post 9570
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:05 pm
by boblee
I will have my next "try" after the LPH rankings come out this week.
post 9645
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:32 am
by boblee
Girls hockey
By Let’s Play Hockey
CLASS AA
1. Roseville (5); 2. Eden Prairie; 3. Grand Rapids/Greenway; 4. Stillwater; 5. Hopkins; 6. Edina; 7. Holy Angels Academy; 8. Wayzata; 9. Irondale; 10. White Bear Lake; 11. Eagan; 12. Centennial; 13. Benilde-St. Margaret’s; 14. Proctor-Hermantown-Marshall; 15. Cloquet-Esko-Carlton.
CLASS A
1. Blake (3); 2. Breck; 3. Alexandria; 4. Warroad; 5. Roseau; 6. Crookston-Red Lake Falls; 7. Mankato West; 8. New Prague; 9. South St. Paul; 10. Hibbing-Chisholm; 11. Mound Westonka; 12. Henry Sibley; 13. Albert Lea; 14. East Grand Forks; 15. Silver Bay Area.
post 9646
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:39 am
by boblee
My AA try for 1/24/2008
1. Roseville (1)
2. Eden Prairie (2)
3. Grand Rapids/Greenway (3)
4. Stillwater (4)
5. Edina (6)
6. Hopkins (5)
7. Duluth (not top 15)
8. Wayzata ( 8 )
9. Holy Angels (7)
10. Cloquet (15)
11. White Bear Lake (10)
12. Centennial (12)
13. Irondale (9)
14. Benilde-St. Margaret's (13)
15. Proctor/Hermantown/Marshall (14)
16. Hill-Murray (not in top 15)
17. Elk River (not in top 15)
18. Eagan (not in top 15)
19. Hastings (not in top 15)
20. Moorhead (NR)
I am trying to put some of the hotter teams towards the top more. Also, trying to factor in SOS. I have even seen some issues with it myself, but I think hotter teams need to move north at this time of year. Criticism time.
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:21 pm
by elliott70
Okay, where is Bemidji?

post 9657
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:22 pm
by boblee
elliott70 wrote:Okay, where is Bemidji?

I had serious thought about tossing them at 20 rather than Moorhead. I am sure they'll make their way back in with at least tow big games left (Moorhead and Cloquet).
Re: post 9657
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:38 pm
by elliott70
boblee wrote:elliott70 wrote:Okay, where is Bemidji?

I had serious thought about tossing them at 20 rather than Moorhead. I am sure they'll make their way back in with at least tow big games left (Moorhead and Cloquet).
They beat Moorhead two weeks ago 4 - 2, without Sara E.
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:39 pm
by elliott70
Not that any rankings really matter, but just trying to help you out with gathering the data.
post 9659
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:02 pm
by boblee
elliott70 wrote:Not that any rankings really matter, but just trying to help you out with gathering the data.
I have pretty good tabs on Moorhead. I am in the area and I know one of the coaches pretty well. They are a streaky club. Similar to Bemidji actually.