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Heard it through the grape vine

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:22 pm
by watchdog
what are some good rumors floating around out their? like for example i heard that since moorhead is so weak basicaly throughout their youth program they have been welcoming alot of fargo kids. over the last few years looking at the situation in moorhead i figured this was going to happen. any comments?

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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:08 pm
by boblee
watchdog wrote:what are some good rumors floating around out their? like for example i heard that since moorhead is so weak basicaly throughout their youth program they have been welcoming alot of fargo kids. over the last few years looking at the situation in moorhead i figured this was going to happen. any comments?
That simply isn't true. Sure, some Fargo kids have moved over, but that's just not true.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:31 pm
by watchdog
boblee - thats why i asked the question about what i heard. ive noticed some odd scores on the board like burnsville 6 fargo 1 in peewee. that team should not get beat by five goals! so i was wondering what was going on ive noticed lately that fargo is coming around.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:26 pm
by breakout
watchdog wrote:boblee - thats why i asked the question about what i heard. ive noticed some odd scores on the board like burnsville 6 fargo 1 in peewee. that team should not get beat by five goals! so i was wondering what was going on ive noticed lately that fargo is coming around.
Fargo has great hockey resources, including terrific volunteers.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:53 pm
by watchdog
im from roseau and we play fargo flyers alot at the squirt age and all their teams over the last four years have been every bit as good as any minnesota team.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:29 pm
by hockeyman16
Watchdog i have your back there. These Fargo teams have got to be losing some key players to moorhead.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:42 pm
by ToePull43
Bantam A goalie is from Fargo I think

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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:56 pm
by boblee
Sure, that goalie is form Fargo, and so are some skaters, but it isn't like the Moorhead Youth Association is going out recruiting these kids. They are making their own decisions.

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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:19 pm
by elliott70
boblee wrote:Sure, that goalie is form Fargo, and so are some skaters, but it isn't like the Moorhead Youth Association is going out recruiting these kids. They are making their own decisions.
The kids cannot make this decision.
If they live in Fargo they cannot play in Moorhead without obtaining a transfer waiver from each association and the MN Hockey director - Fargo area diector.

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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:11 pm
by breakout
boblee wrote:Sure, that goalie is form Fargo, and so are some skaters, but it isn't like the Moorhead Youth Association is going out recruiting these kids. They are making their own decisions.

Why aren't Fargo teams showing up in Minnesota tournaments? Or, am I missing something?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:28 pm
by edge
How many teams from North Dakota can hang with the Minnesota schools? Fargo and Grand Forks have the numbers to put together a competitive team, most years.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:44 pm
by egf hockey1
Grafton will have a very competitive team every once in a while. Grand Forks is always competitive. As for Fargo, not all of the Fargo teams are good, Fargo South Flyers are good, Fargo North Raiders and Shanley are not so good. Otherwise that is it.



As to why the Flyers are so good in Squirts and then drop off as they get older. I see two reasons. #1 They play system hockey as Squirts, all of their players are in the right place, they pass well, they are robots. As they get older every team they play can play positions. Flyers have trouble adjusting when the other team is in the right spot. #2 It's the competition that they play. In Squirts, almost all of their games are against MN teams. When they get to PeeWee and Bantam, they have to play a district schedule, which means that half of their games are against lower end ND teams. It makes a big difference when you always play good teams, you get better. If you play crappy teams, you learn shortcuts. You don't have to work as hard to get the end result.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:26 pm
by breakout
egf hockey1 wrote:Grafton will have a very competitive team every once in a while. Grand Forks is always competitive. As for Fargo, not all of the Fargo teams are good, Fargo South Flyers are good, Fargo North Raiders and Shanley are not so good. Otherwise that is it.



As to why the Flyers are so good in Squirts and then drop off as they get older. I see two reasons. #1 They play system hockey as Squirts, all of their players are in the right place, they pass well, they are robots. As they get older every team they play can play positions. Flyers have trouble adjusting when the other team is in the right spot. #2 It's the competition that they play. In Squirts, almost all of their games are against MN teams. When they get to PeeWee and Bantam, they have to play a district schedule, which means that half of their games are against lower end ND teams. It makes a big difference when you always play good teams, you get better. If you play crappy teams, you learn shortcuts. You don't have to work as hard to get the end result.

Duluth is 2 1/2 hours from the cities. Their pee wees, bantams and high school players take multiple trips during the season to the cities to play against good/different competition.

Maybe Fargo should look at doing something similar.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:40 am
by egf hockey1
You don't have to drive all the way to the cities to get good games in Fargo's case. D16 and D15 are right on their borders and they have very competitive teams as well as GF and Grafton. In squirts, they do head to the cities quite, but PW and Bantam's they are hamstringed by there 20 game league schedule. Squirts don't have a league schedule so they can schedule whoever they want.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:57 am
by watchdog
its really to bad because i know we in roseau really enjoyed playing the flyers through those squirt years. the games were always soooo good.

Fargo

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:11 pm
by defense
Raiders and Flyers are solid programs, teams year to year vary. West Fargo is up and coming...maybe....
All I remember is Fargo South was a hard fought and sometimes ugly rivalry,( not sure if teams even play eachother anymore, we're talking coaches ejected, penalty numbers being maxed out, player ejections, no handshakes......heck, the ref even ended a game 2-3 minutes early once.) we are 45 minutes from Fargo Moorhead and played at least twice a year. North had tough games.
The comment on system hockey is correct. In squirts we lost to Fargo teams 10-1, at the peewee level we had competitive games, but at the bantam level we won 4-1 6-1 5-2 etc....still competitive games but all wins nonetheless.
North Dakota schedules and or rules probably differ from MN so who knows why they aren't coming to tourneys. Fargo always had big ones to go to though.
Now the funny thing is, we NEVER EVER beat Moorhead.....(Black as b teams or as A teams).............why I wonder.....

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:37 am
by theref
How bout this for heard it through the grape vine. Two kids that play for the Duluth East Bantam A team live and go to school in Superior, WI.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:51 am
by elliott70
theref wrote:How bout this for heard it through the grape vine. Two kids that play for the Duluth East Bantam A team live and go to school in Superior, WI.
That would be a problem.... :shock:

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:30 pm
by theref
elliott70 wrote:
theref wrote:How bout this for heard it through the grape vine. Two kids that play for the Duluth East Bantam A team live and go to school in Superior, WI.
That would be a problem.... :shock:

Well then I think we might have a problem. As far as I've been told, the parents are going to rent a place in Duluth next year so the kids can go to East High School. Just what I've heard though.