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Idk...I guess I'm just curious and wondering why all the other topics, ei (minnesota youth hockey) are just over flowing with views and new posts...but JG never gets anything new.

its because the Jr Gold season really doesnt kick off until Dec. Almost all the teams are having tryouts this weekend and into next week. League games dont start until early Dec.

Junior Gold simply isn't as popular.

If I may post my opinion. Here is what makes Varsity so popular, first there is a great amount of popularity there, second there a bunch of overly involved parents to talk up their team, and third a lot of kids also talk up their team. The youth forum is pretty much the same.

In my theory, in addition to Jr. Gold not being as popular, is that the kids have matured enough to not talk up your team like your the Stanley Cup champs (unless you're Wayzata), and by this time the parents have finally realized that they don't need to be overly involved anymore. Why have Varsity players not matured enough to not talk themselves up? I don't know. Maybe they feel superior to everybody else because they're "varsity".

That's my two cents.

countrygentleman wrote:If I may post my opinion. Here is what makes Varsity so popular, first there is a great amount of popularity there, second there a bunch of overly involved parents to talk up their team, and third a lot of kids also talk up their team. The youth forum is pretty much the same.

In my theory, in addition to Jr. Gold not being as popular, is that the kids have matured enough to not talk up your team like your the Stanley Cup champs (unless you're Wayzata), and by this time the parents have finally realized that they don't need to be overly involved anymore. Why have Varsity players not matured enough to not talk themselves up? I don't know. Maybe they feel superior to everybody else because they're "varsity".

That's my two cents.

how come you hate wayzata so much? did they kick your ass last year or something?

countrygentleman wrote:If I may post my opinion. Here is what makes Varsity so popular, first there is a great amount of popularity there, second there a bunch of overly involved parents to talk up their team, and third a lot of kids also talk up their team. The youth forum is pretty much the same.

In my theory, in addition to Jr. Gold not being as popular, is that the kids have matured enough to not talk up your team like your the Stanley Cup champs (unless you're Wayzata), and by this time the parents have finally realized that they don't need to be overly involved anymore. Why have Varsity players not matured enough to not talk themselves up? I don't know. Maybe they feel superior to everybody else because they're "varsity".

That's my two cents.

Thanks for your two cents, you can have them back now. I'd say you are off base. How about the level of hockey and the talent that comes out of Minnesota High School hockey. I'm not saying Junior Gold isn't good, but looking at the whole, it's not near the level as High School. Hey, I like JG as much as the next guy, but I don't know of any Gophers that finished out their high school career playing for a JG team.

theref wrote:

countrygentleman wrote:If I may post my opinion. Here is what makes Varsity so popular, first there is a great amount of popularity there, second there a bunch of overly involved parents to talk up their team, and third a lot of kids also talk up their team. The youth forum is pretty much the same.

In my theory, in addition to Jr. Gold not being as popular, is that the kids have matured enough to not talk up your team like your the Stanley Cup champs (unless you're Wayzata), and by this time the parents have finally realized that they don't need to be overly involved anymore. Why have Varsity players not matured enough to not talk themselves up? I don't know. Maybe they feel superior to everybody else because they're "varsity".

That's my two cents.

Thanks for your two cents, you can have them back now. I'd say you are off base. How about the level of hockey and the talent that comes out of Minnesota High School hockey. I'm not saying Junior Gold isn't good, but looking at the whole, it's not near the level as High School. Hey, I like JG as much as the next guy, but I don't know of any Gophers that finished out their high school career playing for a JG team.

I never said Junior Gold produces Gophers or any other level of talent. If you can point out where I did, please tell me. I never metioned anything about level of talent. I was staying on track of what the thread is about. You strayed a few lanes over. I did say JG is a talent level lower. You're post has no reasoning at all on why Junior Gold is never talked about. If you do have such a reason, please post or don't chastise others.

If you want me to make a thread about player's talent in Junior Gold and Varstiy I'd be happy to . I'd even save the first post for you.

theref wrote:

countrygentleman wrote:If I may post my opinion. Here is what makes Varsity so popular, first there is a great amount of popularity there, second there a bunch of overly involved parents to talk up their team, and third a lot of kids also talk up their team. The youth forum is pretty much the same.

In my theory, in addition to Jr. Gold not being as popular, is that the kids have matured enough to not talk up your team like your the Stanley Cup champs (unless you're Wayzata), and by this time the parents have finally realized that they don't need to be overly involved anymore. Why have Varsity players not matured enough to not talk themselves up? I don't know. Maybe they feel superior to everybody else because they're "varsity".

That's my two cents.

How about the level of hockey and the talent that comes out of Minnesota High School hockey.

I'd say that's a pretty clear reason. What more do you want?

Goldy Gopher wrote:

theref wrote:

countrygentleman wrote:If I may post my opinion. Here is what makes Varsity so popular, first there is a great amount of popularity there, second there a bunch of overly involved parents to talk up their team, and third a lot of kids also talk up their team. The youth forum is pretty much the same.

In my theory, in addition to Jr. Gold not being as popular, is that the kids have matured enough to not talk up your team like your the Stanley Cup champs (unless you're Wayzata), and by this time the parents have finally realized that they don't need to be overly involved anymore. Why have Varsity players not matured enough to not talk themselves up? I don't know. Maybe they feel superior to everybody else because they're "varsity".

That's my two cents.

How about the level of hockey and the talent that comes out of Minnesota High School hockey.

I'd say that's a pretty clear reason. What more do you want?

Thanks for picking up on that, it's pretty clear that Countrygentleman missed my point completely. Country, if you need me to explain it to ya, just send me an email so that I can clear it all up for you.

countrygentleman wrote:

theref wrote:

countrygentleman wrote:If I may post my opinion. Here is what makes Varsity so popular, first there is a great amount of popularity there, second there a bunch of overly involved parents to talk up their team, and third a lot of kids also talk up their team. The youth forum is pretty much the same.

In my theory, in addition to Jr. Gold not being as popular, is that the kids have matured enough to not talk up your team like your the Stanley Cup champs (unless you're Wayzata), and by this time the parents have finally realized that they don't need to be overly involved anymore. Why have Varsity players not matured enough to not talk themselves up? I don't know. Maybe they feel superior to everybody else because they're "varsity".

That's my two cents.

Thanks for your two cents, you can have them back now. I'd say you are off base. How about the level of hockey and the talent that comes out of Minnesota High School hockey. I'm not saying Junior Gold isn't good, but looking at the whole, it's not near the level as High School. Hey, I like JG as much as the next guy, but I don't know of any Gophers that finished out their high school career playing for a JG team.

I never said Junior Gold produces Gophers or any other level of talent. If you can point out where I did, please tell me. I never metioned anything about level of talent. I was staying on track of what the thread is about. You strayed a few lanes over. I did say JG is a talent level lower. You're post has no reasoning at all on why Junior Gold is never talked about. If you do have such a reason, please post or don't chastise others.

If you want me to make a thread about player's talent in Junior Gold and Varstiy I'd be happy to . I'd even save the first post for you.

Country... are you stupid, simple or slow?

His post answered the question to the thread perfectly. Unlike yours. One of your reasons to why its more popular... is because its popular. lmao! To quote you "here is what makes Varsity so popular, first there is a great amount of popularity there" How is that an answer? Its more popular because its popular. Good answer slick!

Back to therefs post... He answered it fine and I agree. Obviously people are going to follow and discuss talent. And HS hockey is where the big talent is. Plain and simple. Your going to follow a level of hockey that produces very good players over a level that is just out there for fun.

Now don't get me wrong. I love Jr Gold. Played myself. I just love HS hockey as well. The state tourney is a must see and I never miss it. But simple fact is HS is more exciting, is covered and played in a much broader area than Jr Gold. As far as why youth gets more hits on here I honestly couldn't tell ya.

The thread title is "How Come No One Ever Talks About Junior Gold", right? I don't see how talking about Junior Gold players going Gophers fits into this thread? Is that relative to the thread? That isn't talking about how why nobody talks about Junior Gold. Maybe I'm wrong there?

why dont all y'all just shut up! Junior Gold ain't as popular as other leagues for sure. All of yall in this thread are being dumb. Some more than others.. Country's theory is homo and theref's (if it's even a theory. it's a dumb attack on Gentleman) is even more so. Who the hell starting talking about talent level and thats why nobody talks about j.g.? that makes no sense at all. Keep on track ref. Same goes for countrygent. Keep the thread on topic. County you stop defending yourself and theref you stop attacking him and all is okay. Both of you all are dead wrong.

and above all keep Wayzata in the state ship this year! 07-08 state tourny champs 4ever!

wyztaJGA4vertildeath!!! wrote:why dont all y'all just shut up! Junior Gold ain't as popular as other leagues for sure. All of yall in this thread are being dumb. Some more than others.. Country's theory is homo and theref's (if it's even a theory. it's a dumb attack on Gentleman) is even more so. Who the hell starting talking about talent level and thats why nobody talks about j.g.? that makes no sense at all. Keep on track ref. Same goes for countrygent. Keep the thread on topic. County you stop defending yourself and theref you stop attacking him and all is okay. Both of you all are dead wrong.

and above all keep Wayzata in the state ship this year! 07-08 state tourny champs 4ever!

Interesting thing to say in your completely off topic rant.

I guess I should have expected that type of response on a Junior Gold board. Have a good year boys and I hope all of you stay in school as you are not going to make it on common sense alone.

Junior Gold is not as popular as high school because the talent level just doesn't compare.

Lucia4President wrote:Junior Gold is not as popular as high school because the talent level just doesn't compare.

Not true at all. Last year i think that wayzata's Jr gold A team could beat the highschool team

tdruk wrote:

Lucia4President wrote:Junior Gold is not as popular as high school because the talent level just doesn't compare.

Not true at all. Last year i think that wayzata's Jr gold A team could beat the highschool team

I hope for your sake that you are being sarcastic.

Goldy Gopher wrote:

tdruk wrote:

Lucia4President wrote:Junior Gold is not as popular as high school because the talent level just doesn't compare.

Not true at all. Last year i think that wayzata's Jr gold A team could beat the highschool team

I hope for your sake that you are being sarcastic.

To a point I agree. However, there are some Jr Gold teams that could beat some varsity teams out there. The reason it isnt as talked about is because the season hasnt come yet. Once the season gets goin there will be other Wayzata players along with EP and what not who will come on here and talk about it.

As for the "major" drop off in talent, Only the gap between the best players and worst players in each level. The drop off from the best of Jr Gold to the worst is soooo night and day that it makes varsity look that much better. Not saying that varsity isnt above it, just that it is much more noticeable of difference due to the depth of the league.

In a slightly off topic note, there are some teams that use the Jr Gold league as a filter for their JV and varsity and some varsity coaches even coordinate with the Jr Gold coaches to help certain players out. Jr Gold is much more physical and can help alot of the smaller and younger players get worked in a bit.

I don't care if you throw popcorn, f-bombs or rotten eggs at me the fact of this thread is.....Jr. Gold is a SCRUB LEAGUE for hacks that couldn't make their HS JV teams.
And I ain't slicin' and dicin' it like the NEWsguy35. There's your answer

Undercover Hockey Lover wrote:I don't care if you throw popcorn, f-bombs or rotten eggs at me the fact of this thread is.....Jr. Gold is a SCRUB LEAGUE for hacks that couldn't make their HS JV teams.
And I ain't slicin' and dicin' it like the NEWsguy35. There's your answer

Ever hear of teams that don't allow seniors on JV?

I guarantee you from playing both HS and JR Gold... there are more than a few players that very much deserve to play HS V, and would tear up JV. Good players get cut for no reasons. Be it a coach with a grudge or a coach with no choice because the player isn't committed enough. Regardless the reason, playing on Jr. Gold doesn't mean you out right bad.

But your right... you deserve every f-bomb that probably will be thrown your way, purely because of your ignorance. Because by your theory... a former good varsity player, is a "scrub" who isn't any good solely because he is now on Jr. Gold. And you ask why a good varsity player would be on JG? I've heard of players being cut because of a single drinking minor over the summer. Is that a worthy reason to be cut? Hell no. Does that mean he wasn't good enough to play V? Nope. Now let me ask you, he's playing JG... does that mean he sucks?

if junior gold is so good how about a junior gold all star team vs edina or roseau. can you say a$$ kicking?

hockeyfan002 wrote:if junior gold is so good how about a junior gold all star team vs edina or roseau. can you say a$$ kicking?

No one is saying its great! But there ARE good players in the league.

And if you took a group of the top Jr. Gold players (which would consist of former Varsity players) and let them play together a little bit... yeah, IMO... you would have a very good game.

Like I said... there are many players in Jr. Gold who have played multiple years Varsity hockey. You put a bunch of skilled Varsity players together, you gonna have a very good team. So yeah, it would be a good game. And anything but an a$$ kicking. If their were any ass kicking, it would be in favor of the JG "all star" team.

And to give you an idea... think of the players getting cut from teams like HM or AHA or STA, etc. Players getting cut from those teams are top line caliber players on many other teams in MN. And those are the type of players who are playing JG. And if you think they are getting cut because they suck (well I guess that is the reason for some), your sorely mistaken.

hockeyfan002 wrote:if junior gold is so good how about a junior gold all star team vs edina or roseau. can you say a$$ kicking?

What is your experience with JRG that makes you think this? I believe you would be quite suprised at the amount of talent.
I was going to try to explaine a little about the quality of players and where they come from; but I DON'T feel like wasting my time.
if you want to see some good hockey, check out the metro league website for schedules and pick a game at the A level.
depending where you live, there are very solid teams in all sides of the
TC metro area. and of course the northern teams are good as well
I wouldnt leave you guys out!
the south side D-8 doesn't have but a team or two playing at the A level
but produce good B teams.

hockeyfan002 wrote:if junior gold is so good how about a junior gold all star team vs edina or roseau. can you say a$$ kicking?

I disagree, I do not feel it would be a a$$ kicking but it would be a slight win. I would bet 5-2 or 5-3...

Think about this, a new coach comes in and cleans house of all the seniors but 2. He kept his 2 seniors as captains to mature the younger players and even some of the Jr's got cut because he wanted to start fresh... Those kids that were cut are more than deserving of competitive hockey (which Jr Gold is) and just wants to play the game. I would say that is a just reason for a coach to do what he has to, however it is not right to the kids for us to judge them and call them hacks.

As for UHL, I surely hope that you are a HS kid that gets a good talking to about your judgements. There are kids out there who are better than you and you will one day find them. Just wanted to let you know, maybe 1/100,000 of the varsity players in Mn get a scholarship and even fewer play D1. However, a kid that gets cut now and plays Jr Gold may end up being your boss in the future. I would suggest not slamming something you know nothing about...

NEWsguy you missed by light years. To even put Edina or Roseau or any top 10 team from A or AA in this thread makes me wonder if Pizza Hut got the wrong mushrooms on your pizzas. I came over to this area to see what was cookin' and saw this thread; read through it and was more than slightly amused. I'll guarantee I won't work for a Jr. Golder someday either. I'm curious you say you played both HS and Jr. Gold; did you play varsity and why was the reason you went from HS to Jr. Gold..no challenge at the HS level?