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What Does It Take
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:27 pm
by Dazed&Confused
The Question. who what why and how a child grows into a accomplished Hockey Player. The Answer is NO ONE KNOWS! If someone did the book would be a best seller. Numerous variables and situations factor in. Alot of dumb luck included. But feel free to battle it ut and get to the bottom of this paradox.
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:43 am
by skillbuilder
There are thousands of unique paths to the top but some of the most common are listed below.
Kid starts early, plays off season hockey, is reasonably athletic & gets there.
Kid is a superior athlete, finds hockey early enough, & gets there.
Kid plays hockey when young but struggles because he is big for his age, never plays above C until Bantams, reaches puberty and grows into his body, is now 6'3" & gets there.
Kid is undersized, starts a bit late, is a satisfactory athlete, but works harder than anyone, has incredible passion, and a can't fail attitude & makes it.
Post complete?
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:10 pm
by TriedThat2
Based on some other posts, one might want to add:
Kid's Dad volunteers to be on the local Board, thus guaranteeing kid an automatic position on an A team, with the best coaching and opportunity for advancement!
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:18 pm
by Northland
TriedThat2 wrote:Based on some other posts, one might want to add:
Kid's Dad volunteers to be on the local Board, thus guaranteeing kid an automatic position on an A team, with the best coaching and opportunity for advancement!

I have seen this fail too
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:42 pm
by TriedThat2
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1) A harsh irony
2) A sneering or cutting remark
yep
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:43 pm
by watchdog
ill add to the one above.. better yet that never works you dont just play on the A team and get their. thats maybe a fraction of what it takes.
the cream will rise to the top
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:34 pm
by waylon
Breakout, it's your turn !

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:49 pm
by elliott70
Simple
Have your mother/father move to Roseau about 2 years before you are born.
Have which ever one (mom/dad) find someone from good hockey stock.
Marry (optional).
Conceive (mandatory).
Mom eats right during production stage.
Birth, grow.
From 4 on spend every waking moment at the rink.
The community etal will take it from there.
Simple.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:32 pm
by SEC Scotty
1. Love of the game.
2. Good coaching (INCLUDING DAD)
3. Athleticism
4. Work Ethic
5. Team Player
6. Parents willing to sacrifice time and money.
7. Icetime
8. hockey sense
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:43 pm
by PanthersIn2011
Mark:
The astute reader will observe that this is slightly different from your "just give me an outdoor rink and $5 for hot chocolate" theory

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:46 pm
by SEC Scotty
PanthersIn2011 wrote:Mark:
The astute reader will observe that this is slightly different from your "just give me an outdoor rink and $5 for hot chocolate" theory

Try finding a kid willing to grab a shovel and scrap the ice on the outdoor rink.
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:54 pm
by toomanystitches
It takes a love of the game. The parents better love the game to make all of the sacrifices that will be required on them, and the kid must love it more than the peer group, accolades, and cheers from the stands.
There have been so many great and gifted hockey players that accomplished “squat”. Some can’t keep up academically, others can’t abide by team rules, and many have such an inflated opinion of themselves that they don’t feel that they need to do the “work” that it takes to become a special player.
The one’s that love it, figure out a way to become better. They work harder than the rest on and off the ice. They understand TEAM.
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:14 pm
by tomASS
toomanystitches wrote:It takes a love of the game. The parents better love the game to make all of the sacrifices that will be required on them, and the kid must love it more than the peer group, accolades, and cheers from the stands.
There have been so many great and gifted hockey players that accomplished “squat”. Some can’t keep up academically, others can’t abide by team rules, and many have such an inflated opinion of themselves that they don’t feel that they need to do the “work” that it takes to become a special player.
The one’s that love it, figure out a way to become better. They work harder than the rest on and off the ice. They understand TEAM.
YOU ARE IN THE ZONE TODAY
great posts

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:21 pm
by elliott70
PanthersIn2011 wrote:Mark:
The astute reader will observe that this is slightly different from your "just give me an outdoor rink and $5 for hot chocolate" theory

I am was trying to avoid the 'checkbook' hockey theories.

Re: the cream will rise to the top
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:21 pm
by breakout
waylon wrote:Breakout, it's your turn !

Thanks waylon, I'll just enjoy reading what others post..........for now
You have a Burnsville spin to this?
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:22 pm
by elliott70
SEC Scotty wrote:PanthersIn2011 wrote:Mark:
The astute reader will observe that this is slightly different from your "just give me an outdoor rink and $5 for hot chocolate" theory

Try finding a kid willing to grab a shovel and scrap the ice on the outdoor rink.
But give me 15 that will and we will be good.
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:24 pm
by breakout
toomanystitches wrote:It takes a love of the game. The parents better love the game to make all of the sacrifices that will be required on them, and the kid must love it more than the peer group, accolades, and cheers from the stands.
There have been so many great and gifted hockey players that accomplished “squat”. Some can’t keep up academically, others can’t abide by team rules, and many have such an inflated opinion of themselves that they don’t feel that they need to do the “work” that it takes to become a special player.
The one’s that love it, figure out a way to become better. They work harder than the rest on and off the ice. They understand TEAM.
This should be a
MUST read on the topic. You hit a home run on this!

What It Takes
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:45 pm
by Dazed&Confused
Mom has dreams of a figure skater and teaches son to skate at 2 years
Joins the local association at 5 years
Moves up to play with the older boys (can already navigate the cones)
Build a rink in the backyard
Summer Camps
Buy a new mower
Move to a different city ( Better Coaching )
Plays Squirts as a Mite
Spring Hockey, Summer Camps,Fall Hockey
Build a Rink
Plays A squirts
Spring Hockey, Summer Camps,Fall Hockey ShowCase
Squirts Again
Lake Placid Buy A Mini Van
Fire, Lighting ,Blades,
Summer Camps Fall Hockey
Accelaration Minnesota
Leave the Association
Come back to the association
Move again ,Transfer To A Private School
Buy another mower
More Camps,Super Series,Midwest Selects, South Side Stars Elite Clasic, Calgary, Winnepeg, Montreal, Chicago, StLouis, Detroit, Boston, Madison, New York, Philly, Toronto 12345 Times
About 10,000.00 in hockey sticks and skates
Another 20,000.00 in travel expense
Another 20,000.00 in fees
About 30,000 for stuff I cant remember
Befor and After Hockey
Highschool Hockey, Impact Captains Practice, Futers Camps
USHL ShowCase FHIT Total Hockey 4on4 Leagues
Elite 2, Elite 1
Highschool Hockey
Jrs ????
College????
Twomanystiches You are dead on!
What does it take
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:51 am
by oldram
Skate, skate, skate. Public skating, open hockey, whatever. Shinny hockey and icetime away from practice.
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:00 pm
by MNHockeyFan1
TriedThat2 wrote:Based on some other posts, one might want to add:
Kid's Dad volunteers to be on the local Board, thus guaranteeing kid an automatic position on an A team, with the best coaching and opportunity for advancement!
It's the truth though.
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:27 pm
by watchdog
mn made and alot of nobb gobblin.