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NOT WHO YOU THINK WILL GET IT, BUT WHO YOU WANT!
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:56 pm
by elliott70
Open choices, and can just be any democrat or any republican.
Or third party or known possibility.
Or you can just go with 'Any Deomcrat' or "Any Republican'.
Packerboy is not eligible and I am not sure if ER and Boblee are old enough to consider the question.
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:19 pm
by Can't Never Tried
Well elliott......

I think that after about 3 hrs and not one response...i'd say that it's clear to me, and others (possibly), that there just isn't a clear choice.
It's kinda like a bad draft..not really much to choose from.
I find myself waiting for someone to come along and impress me with something but it hasn't happened yet....

Re: NOT WHO YOU THINK WILL GET IT, BUT WHO YOU WANT!
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:32 pm
by east hockey
elliott70 wrote:Open choices, and can just be any democrat or any republican.
Or third party or known possibility.
Or you can just go with 'Any Deomcrat' or "Any Republican'.
Packerboy is not eligible and I am not sure if ER and Boblee are old enough to consider the question.
At this point, Obama, but I'll certainly take Hillary over any Repubican.
Lee
Re: NOT WHO YOU THINK WILL GET IT, BUT WHO YOU WANT!
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:00 pm
by Neutron 14
east hockey wrote:
At this point, Obama, but I'll certainly take Hillary over any Repubican.
Lee
And I'd take any Republican over either of them. I think we get the best legislation when one party doesn't control all three houses, and I see both the House and Senate gaining Dem Seats. But...
Here's my scenario...
Hillary wins the Democratic nomination
Romney wins the Republican nomanation
Guiliani wins the Presidency as an Independent!
Shock the World! Deja Vu all over again! America, sick of far left and far right candidates, go center.
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:54 pm
by Irishmans Shanty
If Guiliani runs as an independant I can only hope his running mate is as entertaining as Perot's selection was in '92. Admiral Stockdale was absolutely priceless in that VP debate.
Re: NOT WHO YOU THINK WILL GET IT, BUT WHO YOU WANT!
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:58 pm
by George Blanda
Anyone but Patty Wetterling.
But...a guy like Giuliani is what I am looking for.
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:57 pm
by tomASS
Irishmans Shanty wrote:If Guiliani runs as an independant I can only hope his running mate is as entertaining as Perot's selection was in '92. Admiral Stockdale was absolutely priceless in that VP debate.
the transcript of the debate is very entertaining.
Gore was a smaller carbon footprint back then
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:34 am
by carpenterguy
Anybody but Hillary!
Hopefully we have a Reagan Conservative in the mix.
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:04 am
by packerboy
BIAFP
If he is not available, then I dont have an answer to elliotts very interesting question.
I cant think of one strong Senator or Congessman whom I would like to see President.
Not a lot of solid veteran leadership that isnt too far to the left or right any more or that hasnt been caught with his pants down (literally).
I suppose thats why we end up with guys like W, Gore, Dukakis and Kerry to choose from.
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:24 am
by Can't Never Tried
packerboy wrote:BIAFP
If he is not available, then I dont have an answer to elliotts very interesting question.
I cant think of one strong Senator or Congessman whom I would like to see President.
Not a lot of solid veteran leadership that isnt too far to the left or right any more or that hasnt been caught with his pants down (literally).
I suppose thats why we end up with guys like W, Gore, Dukakis and Kerry to choose from.
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Of course this would be your thoughts if you were eligible to participate

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:35 am
by packerboy
I think you read that wrong.
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:43 am
by Can't Never Tried
Well.....I stand corrected then...and just why are you not eligible to be president? aready we are being told who we can and cannot choose..

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:50 am
by packerboy
Good point.
Knowlzee certainly wouldnt stand for it.
But its elliotts thread so what can you do?
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:03 am
by sachishi4
Colbert

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:14 am
by carpenterguy
I cannot vote for a democrat simply because of this true story that happens daily in America.
A young woman was about to finish her first year of college...
Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words, redistribution of wealth.
She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.
Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.
Her father listened then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?"
She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn't even sh ow up for classes because she's too hung over."
Her father asked her, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend Audrey, who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."
The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, "That's a crazy idea. How would that be fair? I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work. Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"
The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the Republican Party."
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:17 am
by Can't Never Tried
Great example

by carpenterguy
It is STILL way too early.
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:27 am
by Knowlzee
It is still way too early to choose a candidate, but......one thing is for sure,.....there is no way Hillary Clinton should even be mentioned in the same sentence as President of the United States. We are still fighting (literally) to repair the affect of unattention paid to our national security by the last Clinton President.
Right now, the news media is propping her up, but.......I have faith the American people will prevail, and do what is right.
P.S. Packerboy would make an excellant leader,......and his policy may be coming around,......may not be this term though.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:35 am
by EREmpireStrikesBack
I know this may be too far into the future, but would Norm Coleman ever have a shot? Or any Minnesotan for that matter?

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:50 am
by packerboy
Good one cguy.
Take this in the spirit that it is intended but really, whats wrong with Hilary?
I actually liked Bill. He was a buisnessman more than a Democrat. He couldnt keep his pants on but he was smooth as silk and appeared presidential.
If Hilary is cut from the same cloth, what would be the big deal if she was President? I know, I dont like her much either.
But look boys, there is a war going on and now it looks like we may have some financial problems with the housing market being what it is. Our Republican President embarrasses himself every time he opens his mouth and appears to be clueless.
With the strongest Republican candidiate being a TV actor, we may as well get ready for a Democrat to win the White House. If that happens Id rather have somebody with some balls like Hilary in there than some John Kerry, Edwards, Gore type.
I dunno, whatayathink?
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:08 am
by Can't Never Tried
packerboy wrote:Good one cguy.
Take this in the spirit that it is intended but really, whats wrong with Hilary?
I dunno, whatayathink?
I think that was a great cast...........right on the edge of the weedline
Hillary has balls

That would explain Bill's need for other female attention
I do think your right though...unless someone suprises us..we're looking at a Dem. but even so I don't think I'm ready to give it to her...at least not yet.... Only as far as dems are concerned, I won't vote her anyway.
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:16 am
by packerboy
Why won' t you vote for her? Because she is a woman?
Ill take Maggie Thatcher over anybody we've had lately. Maggie was one of Reagan's favorites. He respected her. Clinton probably droped trou in front of her.
Cant Hilary be a Maggie?
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:20 am
by Irishmans Shanty
Hillary is the strongest (D) candidate but I think Obama or Edwards have a better chance of beating whoever the Republican ends up being.
It happens in sports all the time, Team A is straight up better than Team B and Team C, but B and C have a better chance of winning the next round game.
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:28 am
by packerboy
Obama and Edwards are real lightweights. Cut from the same cloth as Gore , Dukakis, Kerry etc. Actually,all of those guys are heavier than Obama and Edwards.
The Clintons, for all of their faults are heavy weights. They know how to get elected and they know how to get things done.
Do you really think anybody named Obama is going to be elected President?
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:35 am
by Can't Never Tried
packerboy wrote:Why won' t you vote for her? Because she is a woman?
Ill take Maggie Thatcher over anybody we've had lately. Maggie was one of Reagan's favorites. He respected her. Clinton probably droped trou in front of her.
Cant Hilary be a Maggie?
As far as the gender issue ...I'm not biting on that one!
Tell me this... would she even be a consideration at this point if it wasn't for being the former 1st lady?
Are we really this desperate?
I agree that our choices are limited...but her way of testing ideas to find a solid platform to run on disturbs me, it tells me she's not thinking for herself and she doesn't have a plan going in, she's looking to gain the popular vote by these tactics. IMO
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:41 am
by elliott70
Can't Never Tried wrote:Well.....I stand corrected then...and just why are you (packerboy) not eligible to be president? aready we are being told who we can and cannot choose..

He's an irishman, for god's sake, man!