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Just wanted to remind everyone that the standard of play adopted last year will be continued again this year. Just recieved the manuel as well as the letter for the upcoming season and it states that the standard of play will continue and officials are not to let up. If it is a penalty, call it. Good luck to everyone this season. Hopefully everyone has adapted.

Oh, also forgot to point out. This years point of emphasis falls on sportsmanship of all parties involved in the game. Players, parents, coaches, and officails will all be held accountable for behavior that is disruptive to the game. So if you are a parent that likes to holler at the refs or a referee that thinks you are allowed to yell at the coaches, you will be in for a shock this year. Probably a good move with all the antics that have been going on in professional sports.

Lets hope they've (Refs) also brushed up on the rules interpretations, and their skating, so they can keep up with the play, and be in postion to, and have the courage to, call the game without being influenced by the fans, which is a cause of a lot of the yelling and screaming from coaches and fans in the 1st place. IMO

Can you explain how the disruptive to game is going to be used? Examples of what they are saying is disruptive? because that to me can be very subjective.... and when you start bringing what's happening in the stands onto the ice were no longer playing hockey.



Please don't take it personally it's not intended as an attack towards officials at all, as most do a great job.... but more over a point of discussion.

Well, most of us officials ignore it or don't even hear it (I don't unless I know it's a crowd or group of fans that always complains), but the wording was basically put in as to allow officials who do hear it to not have to deal with it. Basically any obnoxious behavior (you've been around hockey, so you know the people I'm talking about) that goes on at the rink will result in people being removed from arenas, the team they are cheering for recieving a bench minor, etc etc. It's the fan that's always on the referee, or the player that always has a comment after every penalty against his team, or the coach that wants an explination on every single penalty. I wonder how many coaches realize that the referee has no business explaining a penalty to them unless it is a major? ( I know that I don't explain minors to coaches, unless it's a bench for too many men) Nothing really has changed, just more emphasis with all the craziness that has gone on in professional sports as younger kids tend to do what they see on TV.

Not so sure I like the comment about the refs brushing up on the rules interpretation and their skating. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I think you were joking anyway.

As I say now, unless you go through our seminars (and maybe you do) it's tough to know what we are told to call as most common fans and even several more knowledgable people that I talked to last season, didn't know or understand how we were calling games. Though here in Duluth, we didn't have many problems, save one particular set of coaches from Superior's Bantam B team who just never got a clue after 15 penalties in 2 periods.

theref wrote:Well, most of us officials ignore it or don't even hear it (I don't unless I know it's a crowd or group of fans that always complains), but the wording was basically put in as to allow officials who do hear it to not have to deal with it. Basically any obnoxious behavior (you've been around hockey, so you know the people I'm talking about) that goes on at the rink will result in people being removed from arenas, the team they are cheering for recieving a bench minor, etc etc. It's the fan that's always on the referee, or the player that always has a comment after every penalty against his team, or the coach that wants an explination on every single penalty. I wonder how many coaches realize that the referee has no business explaining a penalty to them unless it is a major? ( I know that I don't explain minors to coaches, unless it's a bench for too many men) Nothing really has changed, just more emphasis with all the craziness that has gone on in professional sports as younger kids tend to do what they see on TV.

Not so sure I like the comment about the refs brushing up on the rules interpretation and their skating. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I think you were joking anyway.

As I say now, unless you go through our seminars (and maybe you do) it's tough to know what we are told to call as most common fans and even several more knowledgable people that I talked to last season, didn't know or understand how we were calling games. Though here in Duluth, we didn't have many problems, save one particular set of coaches from Superior's Bantam B team who just never got a clue after 15 penalties in 2 periods.

Should have thrown the in there.... there are few that are a bit slow to the play though.....probably spend to much time at home watching movies(like Forrest Gump) and having the kids deliver to Beer and popcorn instead of getting the excersise

Can't Never Tried wrote:there are few that are a bit slow to the play though.....probably spend to much time at home watching movies(like Forrest Gump) and having the kids deliver to Beer and popcorn instead of getting the excersise

I retired from reffing over 10 years ago because of guys like you. So I'll watch all the movies I want and have the kids deliver my beer and popcorn AND pizza. But I still can make it up and down the ice better than most of the guys I've seen out there lately. Wanna race? Loser buys the beer and pizza.

Ya know, going into my 12th season of this, I see less reward than I did when I was younger (though I'm only in my mid 20's) I think I'll have to get into coaching when my kids start playing. None of that head coach business though, I deal with angry parents enough already.

As a matter of fact, I wouldn't mind a race. I was just skating at the select 15 national camp in August and I was able to keep up with those guys, so I might give ya a run for your money.

Of course, if you buy the pizza and beer before hand, that might help to slow me down a little.

Undercover Hockey Lover wrote: I retired from reffing over 10 years ago because of guys like you.

First time I heard a referee getting out of the game because of funny guys?

Ref - this is coming from a former soccer referee of 33 years ( as high as college and semi-pro) The most effective tool a referee has is his ability to communicate during the game to the players and coaches. I have seen those referees that shut every thing out and make it a me vs. them situation. This type of game management seems to cause the most problems.

I wish you a great season, but throw some laughs, smiles, and winks in there and try to make sure your commarades don't take themselves to seriously.

Try this - it is easier to do on the soccer field. Go stand by the coaches (best for hockey) or parents ( take your skates off so you don't nick an edge). When they ask you what you are doing, just tell them that based on their call recognition that you were certain their vantage point was far better than yours was. Then tell them nope, I was wrong, smile and say I better get back to where I can make the proper calls.

Or you can tell the coach I will be more than happy to discuss any call after the game at the pub and I will buy a beer for you for every call I admit I was wrong, but for those calls I don't admit a mistake on the beer is on you.

Soccer refereeing is easier because all the rules start and end with
"in the opinion of the referee"

tomASS wrote:

Undercover Hockey Lover wrote: I retired from reffing over 10 years ago because of guys like you.

First time I heard a referee getting out of the game because of funny guys?

Ref - this is coming from a former soccer referee of 33 years ( as high as college and semi-pro) The most effective tool a referee has is his ability to communicate during the game to the players and coaches. I have seen those referees that shut every thing out and make it a me vs. them situation. This type of game management seems to cause the most problems.

I wish you a great season, but throw some laughs, smiles, and winks in there and try to make sure your commarades don't take themselves to seriously.

Try this - it is easier to do on the soccer field. Go stand by the coaches (best for hockey) or parents ( take your skates off so you don't nick an edge). When they ask you what you are doing, just tell them that based on their call recognition that you were certain their vantage point was far better than yours was. Then tell them nope, I was wrong, smile and say I better get back to where I can make the proper calls.

Or you can tell the coach I will be more than happy to discuss any call after the game at the pub and I will buy a beer for you for every call I admit I was wrong, but for those calls I don't admit a mistake on the beer is on you.

Soccer refereeing is easier because all the rules start and end with
"in the opinion of the referee"

Oh trust me, I have plenty of fun out there and have very little problems blocking people out. Must be that "end of the season, it's game number 135 and playoffs haven't started" kind of thing still talking. I will say that I definately run into more mouth kids now than I use to, but I guess that just gets back to parenting. I know my daughter doesn't talk to her parents or anyone else that way.

Haha, admitting your wrong is always fun, usually because a coach can't come back at you after that.

"Coach, I was wrong and made a mistake on that call, I'll try to make sure that it doesn't happen again"

Coach "Ummmmmmm.......(damn he stole my thunder) okay?)

tomASS wrote: The most effective tool a referee has is his ability to communicate during the game to the players and coaches is...

Yeah right this is the tool>>>>>

Can't Never Tried wrote:

tomASS wrote: The most effective tool a referee has is his ability to communicate during the game to the players and coaches is...

Yeah right this is the tool>>>>>

I'm gonna go soccer referee and start handing out cards this winter. If I give you a brown card, that means go sit your butt on the bench cause you are too much of a wiener to be out here. I'll give pink cards for diving to represent how much of a ***** (woman's anatomy) you are. Rainbow cards will be for the clowns that take such stupid penalties they make me laugh and green cards will be for doing it right and thus, getting a free penalty kick..I mean shot.

theref wrote:

Can't Never Tried wrote:

tomASS wrote: The most effective tool a referee has is his ability to communicate during the game to the players and coaches is...

Yeah right this is the tool>>>>>

I'm gonna go soccer referee and start handing out cards this winter. If I give you a brown card, that means go sit your butt on the bench cause you are too much of a wiener to be out here. I'll give pink cards for diving to represent how much of a ***** (woman's anatomy) you are. Rainbow cards will be for the clowns that take such stupid penalties they make me laugh and green cards will be for doing it right and thus, getting a free penalty kick..I mean shot.

That's great... throw in a blue card for coaches and players that cry to many tears.

Green cards could also be used for the having the hottest mom...but that is only at the squirt and below level

Can't Never Tried wrote:

theref wrote:

Can't Never Tried wrote: Yeah right this is the tool>>>>>

I'm gonna go soccer referee and start handing out cards this winter. If I give you a brown card, that means go sit your butt on the bench cause you are too much of a wiener to be out here. I'll give pink cards for diving to represent how much of a ***** (woman's anatomy) you are. Rainbow cards will be for the clowns that take such stupid penalties they make me laugh and green cards will be for doing it right and thus, getting a free penalty kick..I mean shot.

That's great... throw in a blue card for coaches and players that cry to many tears.

Green cards could also be used for the having the hottest mom...but that is only at the squirt and below level

Nope, that card will be black with flames on it. Also on it will be my phone number.

Can't Never Tried wrote:

tomASS wrote: The most effective tool a referee has is his ability to communicate during the game to the players and coaches is...

Yeah right this is the tool>>>>>

I bet tomASS got a KICK out of seeing soccer Emoticons

theref wrote:Just wanted to remind everyone that the standard of play adopted last year will be continued again this year. Just recieved the manuel as well as the letter for the upcoming season and it states that the standard of play will continue and officials are not to let up. If it is a penalty, call it. Good luck to everyone this season. Hopefully everyone has adapted.

Glad to understand the rules will be enforced. I believe it is good for the game and players are adapting.