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Cleveland Indians @ Twins

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:00 am
by Irishmans Shanty
This could have been a big series.

Game #1: Sabathia vs. Santana

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:24 pm
by EREmpireStrikesBack
Twins lose. Is it just me or do the Indians own Santana?

:idea:

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:59 pm
by Irishmans Shanty
They rest Sizemore telling the world the game doesn't mean anything, Lofton reaches to start the game and that is essentially the game.

Must be fun being an Indian fan these days.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:26 pm
by sachishi4
the indians do own the twins and santana. They have beaten him 5 times this year. Once again, the twins get shut out. 13th time this season

alexi casilla with 4 hits though, thats a reason to be excited.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:29 pm
by Govs93
Irishmans Shanty wrote:Must be fun being an Indian fan these days.
Well, I guess we're getting a little taste of our own medicine.

Looking ahead, if the Twins can lock up Morneau, Santana and/or Hunter, and Cleveland can sort out their bullpen in the coming year(s), this has the making of being a real fun rivalry for quite a few years because a lot of the good young players on both teams will be locked up for a while.

Take away Santana & Silva, most of the Twins staff will be tied up for at least 3 or 4 years (mostly because most of them haven't accrued service time to leave). Cleveland has Sizemore, Martinez & Hafner locked up until at least 2010. Both managers will be around for another 3 years at least (barring firing).

It could be a lot of fun for quite a few years.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:19 pm
by Joey (nine toes) Marcoux
For Sale: 1951 Bandwagon. Used very little. Can be seen 2 mi. E. of Ball Club, Mn. Serious offers only...Send to HSBONGWATCHER. :)

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:21 pm
by sachishi4
ahahahaaha

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:25 pm
by goldy313
Morneau is costing himself $$$$ by the day, his arbitration hearing, if it gets there, will be ugly. 7 RBI since July 29th, 1HR since July 23rd.

Castillo is gone, Mauer isn't as durable as the Twins need, and it sounds like Morneau has been figured out or at the very least with Hunter now hitting in front of him opposing pitchers can be a little more careful with him. A Twins lineup without Hunter in it next season could be really ugly and no matter how good the pitching is 1 run won't win the Twins many games.

The Twins rank 13 out of 14 AL teams in Slugging and 27 out of 30 ML teams - 16 of those teams have the pitcher bat :shock:

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:49 pm
by Govs93
goldy313 wrote:Morneau is costing himself $$$$ by the day, his arbitration hearing, if it gets there, will be ugly. 7 RBI since July 29th, 1HR since July 23rd.

Castillo is gone, Mauer isn't as durable as the Twins need, and it sounds like Morneau has been figured out or at the very least with Hunter now hitting in front of him opposing pitchers can be a little more careful with him. A Twins lineup without Hunter in it next season could be really ugly and no matter how good the pitching is 1 run won't win the Twins many games.
Oh you silly naysayers. 1 run games will not be a problem... Punto is under contract for '08 and I'm sure TR will pick up Rondell's '08 option. :D

And isn't it almost good news for the long run that Morneau is slumping - hopefully he is costing himself some loot, thereby making more apt to being resigned! :D Although, the fact of the matter is that the guy is still going to end up with 30+ HRs and 100+ RBIs, so he won't be cheap (resigning or arbitration) no matter how you slice it.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:50 am
by Neutron 14
Joey (nine toes) Marcoux wrote:For Sale: 1951 Bandwagon. Used very little. Can be seen 2 mi. E. of Ball Club, Mn. Serious offers only...Send to HSBONGWATCHER. :)
If thats the location of the vehicle, its now sitting on cinder blocks...

Fitting, the wheels have come off both the Twins and the bandwagon.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:21 am
by goldy313
I was listenig to the Indians broadcast and they had some speculation on Morneau that with his struggling the Twins would be less likely to offer him a 2-3 year deal and probably go with another 1 year deal. They used Cliff Lee as an example, a guy with a great season but is now a 5 million AAA pitcher. Which ultimately makes Hunter that much more valuable.

Morneau had a great run from late last June to the end of this past July, but that's it, beyond that he's really been no better than Dougie Baseball was at the plate but sigificantly worse at first base. How much money do the Twins invest in him? We'e seen he has tremedous potential, but we've also seen he can be brutally bad and deserving of trip to AAA.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:39 am
by elliott70
Go Twins!

Still my team.
Of course, I cheer for the Cubs, too.

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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:26 pm
by boblee
The baseball gods greet Kevin Slowey generously again. It is amazing that a guy who is on pace to give up over 70 homers if he tossed 200 innings is on the verge of improving to 4-0.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:51 pm
by Irishmans Shanty
Image

Come on 36, land the bird nice and easy, you guys can't roll over for the Indians everynight.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:01 pm
by Neutron 14
woops...

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:06 pm
by Irishmans Shanty
The Bird makes a crash landing as Hafner does what power hitters can do when they have a count in the late innings.

I just can't hate a guy who performs like this.

Time for the Twins to do the same, someone end it without giving the Tribe another chance.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:10 pm
by Irishmans Shanty
The Twins go down in 6 pitches in the bottom half.

Bring Joe back for another, he needs the work.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:16 pm
by Irishmans Shanty
End it, Hafner's spot is coming around again.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:39 pm
by EREmpireStrikesBack
Oh god... we got the gimp Mauer in because Redmond almost died and Luis Rodriguez started the game and got taken out.

:idea:

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:58 pm
by Irishmans Shanty
Great baseball sounds
1) The crack of the bat before the radio announcer can tell you what's happening.
2) The sound of extra innings in an indoor stadium during the month of September when the home team has long since been eliminated from the race.

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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:51 am
by boblee
I was hoping that game would continue on so we could see Justin Morneau catch Torii Hunter.

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:33 pm
by Neutron 14
Yawn.....

3-0 Tribe after zero and a half.

flip...Dodgers vs Cubs...

flip.. Educational programing...

flip... The Dirty Dozen!!!!

I might check back later...

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:43 pm
by Irishmans Shanty
Neutron 14 wrote: Cubs...
Does Craig Monroe of the Cubs interest anyone as a Twin OF or DH for next year? The Cubs have deep pockets and won't want Monroe next year even if he is under contract.

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:46 pm
by Govs93
Irishmans Shanty wrote:
Neutron 14 wrote: Cubs...
Does Craig Monroe of the Cubs interest anyone as a Twin OF or DH for next year? The Cubs have deep pockets and won't want Monroe next year even if he is under contract.
DH? No. I don't think he's the established type of hitter the Twins need. He did have a nice season last year, but it was atypical of what he had done prior (and sense). Good hitter... I just don't think he's DH worthy.

LF? Well, that might be something. Is he better than Kubel? Probably more talented... definitely more expensive. Might be an pretty good lefty/righty platoon, but if signing him cuts into potential loot that could be used to re-sign Hunter, I wish him the best of luck on the South Side.