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how to get in shape

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:33 am
by hockeyfreak101
since i decided not to do football this year and i dont like any of the fall sports i would like to know how i can get in shaped for the hockey season?

i have been lifting weights and shooting pucks everyday

and i would like to know everyones opinion on creatine
(i might start taking it)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:03 pm
by breakout
Talk to a Dr. that understands sports when thinking about Creatine. On the internet, the positives of the drug are usually touted by people that want to sell it.

From my understanding, no one knows the long term effects of creatine. There is also a hydration factor that you need to consider.

Not sure what age you are. Lifting and shooting pucks will certainly benefit. I would add dry-land stick handling as well. Make sure you are adding skating into the mix.

Also, a thread was started about development. Scroll down below and take some ideas that will be appropriate for your needs. The people that contributed have a good understanding of the game and development.

Good luck!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:42 pm
by Govs93
Less Twinkies, more running.

The teams that are well conditioned and can skate a full 51 minutes are the teams that do well. Several good teams took a digger late in games that mattered last season because they were sucking wind.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:52 pm
by Govs93
FYI - here is the thread he was referring to.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:58 pm
by hockeyfreak101
well when i mean shooting pucks i rollarblade and stick handle tooo

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:24 pm
by elliott70
hockeyfreak101 wrote:well when i mean shooting pucks i rollarblade and stick handle tooo
run, jump rope, run
Govs is right.

If you need to add body mass, find a good protein substitute with the help of your doctor and local clinic dietician.
DO NOT DO IT ON YOUR OWN OR WITH HELP FROM A FRIEND!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:21 pm
by dangla.
acceleration. Ive been doing that. skating and plyos.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:46 pm
by breakout
Govs93 wrote:FYI - here is the thread he was referring to.

Actually, I was referring to the hockey player development thread. That can be found below. Lots of ideas with varied costs. Some inexpensive, some more expensive. Choose what's affordable and appropriate for your needs.

Plyos are great for explosiveness and improved speed. Seems like you are doing a lot of positive things.

The old saying "the harder I work the luckier I get" applies.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:37 am
by inthebox
don't use kreatin. it is geared toward sprinters to give them under a minute of pure energy. hockey games are alot longer than a minute. do lots of squats and lower body things to lengthen your stride and build speed.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:52 am
by hockeyfreak101
no comprende no one gave one reason not to take creatine and i have been doing research

Creatine is often taken by athletes as a supplement for those wishing to gain muscle mass (bodybuilding). There are a number of forms but the most common are creatine monohydrate - creatine bonded with a molecule of water, and Creatine ethyl ester (CEE). A number of methods for ingestion exist - as a powder mixed into a drink, or as a capsule or caplet. Once ingested, creatine is highly bioavailable, whether it is ingested as the crystalline monohydrate form, the free form in solution, or even in meat. Creatine salts will become the free form when dissolved in aqueous solution. With studies repeatedly reporting an upper maximal range for muscular creatine concentration, it is unlikely that the form of creatine ingested results in increased or altered final gains. [citation needed] Conventional wisdom recommends the consumption of creatine with high glycemic index carbohydrates, though research indicates that the use of high GI carbs in combination with protein is also beneficial.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:45 pm
by theref
Agree with the running and lower body training. Here is one that I've found to be a problem with a lot of skaters. FLEXIBILITY, especially the hamstrings. Make sure that part of your work out is stretching out your muscles really good, that way you aren't missing games due to pulls or strains.

Along with that goes lots and lots and lots of water. Can't say enough good things about drinking lots of water.

Also, creatine and other supplements will help you to build muscle, but depending on your age, it just may not happen. When I was 18, could gain anything thanks to metabolism, now at 25, I don't seem to have that problem if I eat 1 twinkie :) Generally, depending on how old you are, you might want to stay away from supplements until you are 17 or 18. Your body is usually finishing up most of it's growing by then. One thing I have noticed about creatine though, it helps you bounce back a lot faster from lifting the day before.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:52 pm
by dangla.
as i said earlier. accleration is the way to go.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:05 pm
by hockeyfreak101
by the way im 15

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:07 pm
by breakout
hockeyfreak101 wrote:by the way im 15

Don't take creatine without talking to your parents and a sports knowledgeable Doctor first. There is bias in a lot of the internet info.

Check in www.mayoclinic.com there may be some information for you.

Did you play Bantam A last year? What is your goal this year?

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:22 pm
by hockeyfreak101
bantam A last year

and this year my goal is to be the # 1 guy for D

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:20 pm
by breakout
hockeyfreak101 wrote:bantam A last year

and this year my goal is to be the # 1 guy for D

Great that you have a goal. I like your thinking.

Are you a big hitting, defensive D type, or offensive type, or a little bit of both? How would you describe yourself?

Are you more like Chris Pronger or Scott Neidermeyer?

If you were an A Bantam last year, I have to believe you have a good shot at being in the top two.

One of the things you need to add to your routine (if you have not) is stick-handling work. Check on the hockey development thread that was started below. Great stick-handling drills can be found there.

Confident D that can make that first pass are in big demand at all levels. No matter how good your hands are...........make them better and quicker. That can be done in your garage or basement.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:51 pm
by hockeyfreak101
well ive been a D who doesnt score goals but who doesnt give them up much

and im trying to add a little more offense with rushing the puck and making those good passes

but i have been stick handling in my garage every day on rollar blades with a ball becasue i can tell you that my hands arent th greatest

and im also adding the physical side by being in the weight room

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:16 am
by LetsPlayHockey22
Sounds like you are a very determined player. My advice would be to keep practice shooting as you are because even if you dont have spectacular hands or are not a great skater, a good shot can do alot for you.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:59 am
by breakout
hockeyfreak101 wrote:well ive been a D who doesnt score goals but who doesnt give them up much

and im trying to add a little more offense with rushing the puck and making those good passes

but i have been stick handling in my garage every day on rollar blades with a ball becasue i can tell you that my hands arent th greatest

and im also adding the physical side by being in the weight room
You seem to be putting in the work. Seems like you have a great attitude and want to succeed.

When you are practicing stick-handling, make sure you are going around things and doing wide hand movements as well. Do those drills with your head up. Work at doing your drills quicker each time. Do it at uncomfortable speeds. What is uncomfortable today, will become comfortable. Keep challenging yourself to get quicker and better. If you put in the work you will improve.

Visualize yourself going up the ice as you work on your hands. Visualize yourself seeing the whole ice up ahead of you. Also, visualize yourself making those great passes and jumping into the play.

Lance Pitlick makes a nice product called Sweet Hands. Google it and take a look. It is realitively inexpensive and comes with a host of drills.

If you are interested in that product, you should be able to find it at a sports store in your area. Or, you can order it online.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:00 pm
by hockeyfreak101
also i was wondering if you know of any hockey camps in th fall that are still open because i was too late to sign up for MN acceleration

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:37 pm
by breakout
Not sure of camps that might be available. I am sure others will respond. You may want to google Minnesota fall hockey camps and see what you come up with.

Also, check out Scott Bjugstad. Sign up to go to his garage. He can help you with your shot and get you into the right stick, flex, etc.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:32 pm
by hockeyfreak101
alright thanks man

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:00 pm
by PanthersIn2011
Freak: Check out Blatherwick's book, which can be found online here: http://www.overspeed.info/. Cardiac Jack has trained at least a few decent players over the years :D.

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:40 pm
by gongshow006
just to add i use creatine monohydrate and i am on a 3 month plan wit it just to shape up before the season starts u can take it like i am then in the season just stop using it but u still have to do your rutine lifting so basically just do the same things u would do as if u were still using creatine ....affects so far i am a month into my loading of the substance and i have gained 11lbs and am maxing out 20lbs more in squats and 15 in benching

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:29 pm
by breakout
I am telling you, check with a knowledgeable Dr. before you dump that stuff down your gullet.

From what I have read, no one knows the long term effects of that stuff.