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Does Hill have what it takes?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:20 am
by Dazed&Confused
Does Hill have the guns to go further than they have in the last two years?
Re: Does Hill have what it takes?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:42 am
by BIG
Dazed&Confused wrote:Does Hill have the guns to go further than they have in the last two years?
No
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:25 am
by Neutron 14
I think the three favorite teams this year all wear green.
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:56 am
by breakout
Neutron 14 wrote:I think the three favorite teams this year all wear green.
I would say yes to two of those teams (Roseau & Edina). I don't think Cottage Grove has what it takes to be in that elite company

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:08 am
by Can't Never Tried
breakout wrote:Neutron 14 wrote:I think the three favorite teams this year all wear green.
I would say yes to two of those teams (Roseau & Edina). I don't think Cottage Grove has what it takes to be in that elite company

He meant Pine city

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:10 pm
by Neutron 14
Can't Never Tried wrote:breakout wrote:Neutron 14 wrote:I think the three favorite teams this year all wear green.
I would say yes to two of those teams (Roseau & Edina). I don't think Cottage Grove has what it takes to be in that elite company

He meant Pine city

Pour attempt at humor you two. I "spelt" pour correctly as youse gyz have been hittin the bottle!
Edina might have an edge on the other two, but I don't see another team in that top tier. Besides the Dragons and Wolfpack, do you two or anyone else see another team that can compare with the tres verde?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:55 pm
by breakout
Neutron 14 wrote:Can't Never Tried wrote:breakout wrote:
I would say yes to two of those teams (Roseau & Edina). I don't think Cottage Grove has what it takes to be in that elite company

He meant Pine city

Pour attempt at humor you two. I "spelt" pour correctly as youse gyz have been hittin the bottle!
Edina might have an edge on the other two, but I don't see another team in that top tier. Besides the Dragons and Wolfpack, do you two or anyone else see another team that can compare with the tres verde?
Neut, I hate to do this............but, how about Centennial (
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)? Didn't the Centennial lads beat the Edina boys in the Bantam A State Championship a few years back? Got to believe they are in that top tier.
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:19 pm
by Neutron 14
breakout wrote:
Neut, I hate to do this............but, how about Centennial (
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)? Didn't the Centennial lads beat the Edina boys in the Bantam A State Championship a few years back? Got to believe they are in that top tier.
Hate to do this my axe....
Centennial falls into
maybe best of the rest.
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:06 pm
by Pioneerprideguy
Edina & Roseau have the potential to be special next year. Hill will throw together another solid club that should be able to compete with most everyone in the state. I put them a notch below the other two. Centennial's grass looks alot "greener" now that they have been placed in someone else's back yard.
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:20 pm
by Neutron 14
Pioneerprideguy wrote: Hill will throw together another solid club
Throw together? Major understatement.
Pioneerprideguy wrote: Centennial's grass looks alot "greener" now that they have been placed in someone else's back yard.
As does Hills for the same reason.
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:21 pm
by Sparlimb
Neutron 14 wrote:
Throw together? Major understatement.
I prefer to say "assemble"...
Not many programs can take throwoffs from all over and assemble them into a sum greater then the parts...
okay that was all for Neutron....
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:59 am
by Neutron 14
Sparlimb wrote:
Not many programs can take throwoffs from all over and assemble them into a sum greater then the parts...
Thats mid-season form right there Sparlimb!
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:14 am
by Pioneerprideguy
I think Cent is breathing a whole lot easier with their relocation. History has shown there are really only 2 teams in this section and neither reside in Lino Lakes. Cent typically has been trying to hunt down WB/HM & most often were sent home early & disappointed. They will now be the hunted & it will be fun watching how they handle this. HM/WB will continue meeting in classic section finals and Cent will be given a better opportunity participate in the show rather than watching it. You were given a gift now boys, don't choke.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:37 am
by Neutron 14
After going 1-4 in the last 2 state tournaments, its interesting that a Hill fan is giving others advice about choking.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:50 am
by breakout
Neutron 14 wrote:After going 1-4 in the last 2 state tournaments, its interesting that a Hill fan is giving others advice about choking.
Nicely stated
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:13 pm
by Pioneerprideguy
This coming from a team that lost in the section semis?? Ya lose a little respect when you couldn't do what another team did, which was go to state. You should feel better because this way you get to avoid losing to WB, something we just don't do. So enjoy your new section. Start making reservations downtown St. Paul, rejoice in knowing you won't have to see another season ended short of the dream....that is unless you choke.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:57 pm
by east hockey
Pioneerprideguy wrote:...this way you get to avoid losing to WB, something we just don't do.
Really? Does someone need to give you a history lesson here about Hill vs. WB? By history, I mean going back more than one or two seasons.
One more thing; Centennial's state championship is 13 years more recent than Hill's. And they did it with homegrown talent, yet another distinction.
Rule #1; know thy stuff before thy post, or someone with actual knowledge will come along to correct you.
Lee
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:23 pm
by Pioneerprideguy
Cent feels comfortable taking shots at Hill? Who's next, Edina...Roseau? Which snapshot do you want...recent or historical? Either way, Cent really can't compare. I always get a kick out of people talking smack about programs they cannot beat. A team loses in the section semis and turns around and fires a shot at the section champion? Umm, ok..?
As far as homegrown talent, you keep doing it your way, we'll keep doing it ours, and we'll keep playing in the state tournament and you will keep watching us. You feel good about your situation & we'll feel good about ours. Everyone wins!
As for a lesson about WB/HM hockey, Lee you could never give me a lesson about these two programs. Having been apart of it for over 30 yrs, I seriously doubt you could bring more " actual knowledge" about this than myself. Hill people have far more respect for WB then we ever did/will for Cent. Rule #2-Beat thy team & gain our respect, otherwise, remain quiet.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:27 pm
by H-M 4 Life
I think Hill has all the tools to go all the way.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:04 pm
by east hockey
Pioneerprideguy wrote:
Rule #2-Beat thy team & gain our respect, otherwise, remain quiet.
You guys have never lost to Centennial in the playoffs? Oh, okay.
Your team has hardly been a smashing success story in recent years. Using your Rule #2, you need to prop the following teams; Rochester Century, Grand Rapids,
North St Paul (ouch!), Centennial, White Bear Lake. Since you know so much about HM history, you know what those teams have in common.
Maybe
you should remain quiet until they
do something. A lotta yapping from certain Pioneer fans just because they've made it to state the past two seasons. Keep patting yourselves on the back.
My point (the one you obviously missed on my prior post) was that your team hasn't accomplished anything more than the Cougars have recently. 1991 keeps getting more and more distant, doesn't it?
Lee
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:33 pm
by Pioneerprideguy
Major props to Century & Rapids, they made it to State & beat Hill when it counted. Funny, those people never took shots at Hill...classy. But Cent?...and now East fans? Seriously?? I thought Tartan fans had the market cornered on this department.
Bottom line is HM will put it's recent & past history of success up against Cent (talking about program wins, section titles, state tourney appearances, state titles & head to head games with Cent) any day. Because of this, Cent should be happy they were slid out of a section where HM & WB have dominated over the past several decades...you do realize this don't you??
As for yappin about getting to state the past fews years, Lee, sounds like sour grapes.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:20 pm
by Sparlimb
east hockey wrote:1991 keeps getting more and more distant, doesn't it?
Lee
Lee,
We all know you're still sore because of who Hill beat in 1991. Biggest comeback in state finals history as I recall.
Granted, everything else you've said is spot on. Centennial's state champions were the best champion this century in my opinion. I'd take them over Holy Angels and even this year's Roseau team. My Hill team went through a dry period in the late 90's and early 00's, and they are starting to grow in strength again. Looking for another strong Hill team this year and sitting with Neutron for 2 straight games at the section finals. This year I hope we can both be happy...
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:24 pm
by east hockey
Sparlimb wrote:east hockey wrote:1991 keeps getting more and more distant, doesn't it?
Lee
Lee,
We all know you're still sore because of who Hill beat in 1991. Biggest comeback in state finals history as I recall.
Granted, everything else you've said is spot on. Centennial's state champions were the best champion this century in my opinion. I'd take them over Holy Angels and even this year's Roseau team. My Hill team went through a dry period in the late 90's and early 00's, and they are starting to grow in strength again. Looking for another strong Hill team this year and sitting with Neutron for 2 straight games at the section finals. This year I hope we can both be happy...
Heh. I was wondering who would bring that game up. Funny, rewatching that game isn't tough. Tough watching is the '96 game against Apple Valley or the '97 game against Edina. Now
those were tough losses to stomach. Even while converting those to DVD, all I could do was edit out the commercials, burn the DVD and put 'em away. Watching them was out of the question. You'd think that after all this time.....
Lee
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:10 am
by Neutron 14
Sparlimb wrote: Looking for another strong Hill team this year and sitting with Neutron for 2 straight games at the section finals. This year I hope we can both be happy...
I'm looking forward to it Sparlimb. Its always nice to sit and chat with the
classier and
more knowledgable of the Hill fans.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:22 am
by SEC Scotty
Hill Murray (clouds part) will have a solid team because they reload with talent every year. Not because of superior coaching, or their rich hockey tradition, or because they have better kids than other schools. The pearly gates are not located near Larpenteur and Century.
