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Why don't they just have a 65 team Tournament for the state AA championship. Every other team that doesn't qualify can play for the A championship.

Divide the top 64 state into 4 seperate regions then rank them all. Have a play in game for two teams as well.

The first two rounds they could just have wall to wall coverage of the games over three days thursday thru saturday. Have those at the sectional sites. They don't have to televise the third round. The Quarters, Semis, and State Championship can be televised and held at the Xcel Energy Center as well.

This would be the tier system, which they tried and didn't work. As you can see by the the section realignments, they don't care about talent. They care about an equal representation of the state at the tourny. Having only 64 teams wouldn't be horrible, but they currently have have a 64 team AA tourny; it starts with the AA section quarterfinals and continues until the state finals.

I dont think it works in hockey.

If you did this based on PS2...

West Region (Played in Little Falls & Brainerd)

1. Moorhead vs. 16. Apple Valley/17. St. Cloud Tech Winner (Play In)
8. Bloomington Jefferson vs. 9. Totino-Grace

5. Burnsville vs. 12. Albert Lea
4. Eden Prairie vs. 13. International Falls

6. Elk River vs. 11. Maple Grove
3. Grand Rapids vs. 14. Breck

7. Stillwater vs. 10. Eagan
2. Hill-Murray vs. 15. Blake

South Region (Played @ Mariucci & Ridder)

1. Holy Angels vs. 16. Richfield
8. Rochester Lourdes vs. 9. St. Cloud Cathedral

5. Little Falls vs. 12. Buffalo
4. Cloquet vs. 13. Osseo

6. Rochester Century vs. 11. Rosemount
3. Hermantown vs. 14. Coon Rapids

7. Chaska vs. 10. Forest Lake
2. Duluth East vs. 15 Armstrong

North Region (Played in Moorhead and Fargo)

1. Roseau vs. 16. Cambridge
8. Warroad vs. 9. Brainerd

5. Hibbing vs. 12. Eastview
4. Minnetonka vs. 13. Hopkins

6. Centennial vs. 11. Virginia
3. Cretin-Derham Hall vs. 14. Red Wing

7. Orono vs. 10. Anoka
2. White Bear Lake vs. 15. Mound Westonka

East Region (Played @ State Fairgrounds & Aldrich)

1. Edina vs. 16. Rochester Mayo
8. Wayzata vs. 9. Duluth Denfeld

5. Benilde-St. Margaret's vs. 12. Eastview
4. Duluth Marshall vs. 13. Rogers

6. Blaine vs. 11. Thief River Falls
3. St. Thomas vs. 14. Mahtomedi

7. Woodbury vs. 10. New Prague
2. Roseville vs. 15. Mankato East

West & East Regional Winners in one Semi
North & South Regional Winners in one semi

Using Probability With Dice....This is how it turns out... One Region at a time

West Region (Played in Little Falls & Brainerd)

Games @ Little Falls
Round of 64
1. Moorhead vs. 17. St. Cloud Tech Winner (Play In Winner)
8. Bloomington Jefferson vs. 9. Totino-Grace

5. Burnsville vs. 12. Albert Lea
4. Eden Prairie vs. 13. International Falls

Round of 32
1. Moorhead vs. 8. Blooington Jefferson
4. Eden Prairie vs. 5. Burnsville

Games @ Brainerd
Round of 64
6. Elk River vs. 11. Maple Grove
3. Grand Rapids vs. 14. Breck

7. Stillwater vs. 10. Eagan
2. Hill-Murray vs. 15. Blake

Round of 32
3. Grand Rapids vs. 6. Elk River
2. Hill-Murray vs. 7. Stillwater

Sweet 16 @ Little Falls
1. Moorhead vs. 5. Burnsville
2. Hill-Murray vs. 3 Grand Rapids

Elite 8 Game @ Excel
1. Moorhead vs. 3 Grand Rapids

Using Probability With Dice....This is how it turns out... One Region at a time

East Region (Played @ State Fairgrounds)

Games @ State Fairgrounds
Round of 64
1. Edina vs. 16. Rochester Mayo
8. Wayzata vs. 9. Duluth Denfeld

5. Benilde-St. Margaret's vs. 12. Eastview
4. Duluth Marshall vs. 13. Rogers

Round of 32
1. Edina vs. 9. Duluth Denfeld
4. Duluth Marshall vs. 5. Benilde-St. Margaret's

Games @ Aldrich
Round of 64
6. Blaine vs. 11. Thief River Falls
3. St. Thomas vs. 14. Mahtomedi

7. Woodbury vs. 10. New Prague
2. Roseville vs. 15. Mankato East

Round of 32
3. St. Thomas vs. 6. Blaine
2. Roseville vs. 10. New Prague

Sweet 16 @ St. Fairgrounds
4. Duluth Marshall vs. 9. Duluth Denfeld
2. Roseville vs. 3. St. Thomas

Elite 8 Game @ Excel
2. Roseville vs. 4. Duluth Marshall

Using my dice, ER wins it all.

Using Probability With Dice....This is how it turns out... One Region at a time

South Region (Played @ Mariucci & Ridder)

Games @ Mariucci
Round of 64
1. Holy Angels vs. 16. Richfield
8. Rochester Lourdes vs. 9. St. Cloud Cathedral

5. Little Falls vs. 12. Buffalo
4. Cloquet vs. 13. Osseo

Round of 32
1. Holy Angels vs. 8. Rochester Lourdes
4. Cloquet vs. 5. Little Falls

Games @ Ridder
Round of 64
6. Rochester Century vs. 11. Rosemount
3. Hermantown vs. 14. Coon Rapids

7. Chaska vs. 10. Forest Lake
2. Duluth East vs. 15 Armstrong

Round of 32
3. Hermantown vs. 11. Rosemount
2. Duluth East vs. 7. Chaska

Sweet 16 @ Mariucci
1. Holy Angels vs. 4. Cloquet
2. Duluth East vs. 3. Hermantown

Elite 8 Game @ Excel
1. Holy Angels vs. 3 Hermantown

Using Probability With Dice....This is how it turns out... One Region at a time

North Region (Played in Moorhead and Fargo)

Games @ Moorhead
Round of 64
1. Roseau vs. 16. Cambridge
8. Warroad vs. 9. Brainerd

5. Hibbing vs. 12. Eastview
4. Minnetonka vs. 13. Hopkins

Round of 32
1. Roseau vs. 8. Warroad
4. Minnetonka vs. 5. Hibbing

Games @ Fargo
Round of 64
6. Centennial vs. 11. Virginia
3. Cretin-Derham Hall vs. 14. Red Wing

7. Orono vs. 10. Anoka
2. White Bear Lake vs. 15. Mound Westonka

Round of 32
3. Cretin-Derham Hall vs. 6. Centennial
2. White Bear Lake vs. 10. Anoka

Sweet 16 @ Moorhead
1. Roseau vs. 4. Minnetonka
2. White Bear Lake vs. 6. Centennial

Elite 8 Game @ Excel
1. Roseau vs. 2. White Bear Lake

boblee wrote:2. Duluth East vs. 3. Hermantown

Elite 8 Game @ Excel
1. Holy Angels vs. 3 Hermantown

see
that is why Lee won't let his puppies play with the Hawks
the dice don't lie

Same thing...

Elite 8 Games @ Excel Energy Center

West Final
1. Moorhead vs. 3. Grand Rapids

East Final
2. Roseville vs. 4. Duluth Marshall

South Final
1. Holy Angels vs. 3. Hermantown

North Final
1. Roseau vs. 2. White Bear Lake

Final Four Games @ Excel Energy Center
W1. Moorhead vs. E2. Roseville
S1. Holy Angels vs. N2. White Bear Lake

State Finals
W1. Moorhead vs. S1. Holy Angels

Holy Angels wins

The only problem I saw was that there are games to be played at Ridder...Isn't that for girls?


Oh I forgot, gender equity......I guess the boys could play there.

boblee JW what in the PS2? that matches the brackets?? looks good but how can teams like duluth, hermantown cloquet be in a south bracket, teams like Red wing, Anoka North bracket end up traveling all the way to fargo to play tournament games, and TRF in the east playing down in st. paul why not switch red wing and trf, ya somtimes 3-4 of the best teams in state might be in 1 region but thats how it works, i dunno just looks to me like alot of the teams are just thrown in because of their rankings to make a good fit.

yeah boblee

quit being lazy
take some time and get it right

This would be the sweetest ever..........

Have a 64 team tournament for both classes, just like basketball, have 4 regionals with 16 teams.

Doing it this way would mean that 9 teams would be left out of the AA tournament, (There is currently 73 programs)

In addition, 16 teams would be left out of the A tournament (There is currently 80 programs in there)

All coaches that have teams playing get together and seed the teams 1-16 in each regional.

The higher seed would have home ice until 4 teams were left in each regional they would play at one location. The winner of each regional would play a "frozen four" at the Xcel. Both A and AA would play the same weekend at the Xcel

They would have to do this at the beginning of summer because I don't think they'd be able to miss a month+ of school. And for us fans, we wouldn't be able to miss a month+ of work. Wouldn't that be nice if we could though?

GophyFan18 wrote:They would have to do this at the beginning of summer because I don't think they'd be able to miss a month+ of school. And for us fans, we wouldn't be able to miss a month+ of work. Wouldn't that be nice if we could though?

You could simply extend the season another month and play the games like you do regular season games after school (play one or two games a week) Then the Xcel part of it would be played how it normally is.

I don't know what kind of dice you are using bob, Edina gets beat by Denfeld? New Prague beats Woodbury? Century gets beat by Rosemount?

Then again the dice rolls different than how the puck drops.

AC104 wrote:boblee JW what in the PS2? that matches the brackets?? looks good but how can teams like duluth, hermantown cloquet be in a south bracket, teams like Red wing, Anoka North bracket end up traveling all the way to fargo to play tournament games, and TRF in the east playing down in st. paul why not switch red wing and trf, ya somtimes 3-4 of the best teams in state might be in 1 region but thats how it works, i dunno just looks to me like alot of the teams are just thrown in because of their rankings to make a good fit.

Have you seen the NCAA regionals? Teams aren't put geographically, it is based on their seed. The top #1 seed then has the worst #2 seed in their region and it keeps going like that.

formerallstar wrote:

GophyFan18 wrote:They would have to do this at the beginning of summer because I don't think they'd be able to miss a month+ of school. And for us fans, we wouldn't be able to miss a month+ of work. Wouldn't that be nice if we could though?

You could simply extend the season another month and play the games like you do regular season games after school (play one or two games a week) Then the Xcel part of it would be played how it normally is.

Two words for you, spring sports.

AC104 wrote:boblee JW what in the PS2? that matches the brackets?? looks good but how can teams like duluth, hermantown cloquet be in a south bracket, teams like Red wing, Anoka North bracket end up traveling all the way to fargo to play tournament games, and TRF in the east playing down in st. paul why not switch red wing and trf, ya somtimes 3-4 of the best teams in state might be in 1 region but thats how it works, i dunno just looks to me like alot of the teams are just thrown in because of their rankings to make a good fit.

It is set up like the NCAA Bball tourny. 1 plays 64, 2 played 63, etc. That is why you have some teams with longer travels. I determined each bracket location by the number one seed. The only thing I didn't do was move teams around to make them closer to home like the NCAA will do sometimes.

For times...

One weekend you have a Thurs-Sat of the round of 64, 32 and sweet 16.

The next weekend is the "Elite 8" which is the state tournament. It wouldn't be that much extra time.

Great Idea...

Very Interesting...

Why not make your Tourney a Round Robin...

Keep working on this, boblee....

Goldy Gopher wrote:

formerallstar wrote:

GophyFan18 wrote:They would have to do this at the beginning of summer because I don't think they'd be able to miss a month+ of school. And for us fans, we wouldn't be able to miss a month+ of work. Wouldn't that be nice if we could though?

You could simply extend the season another month and play the games like you do regular season games after school (play one or two games a week) Then the Xcel part of it would be played how it normally is.

Two words for you, spring sports.

With the weather always seeming to be an issue, spring sports games generally don't start until the 1st or 2nd weekend of april