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I have heard that the A Sections will be changed yet again.
Any comments?
T

All sections - A & AA - will be realigned.

Also - some teams may move from A to AA and vice versa due to enrollment changes, as well as the "assisted lunch rule" counting change, and also the option for A teams to move/stay at AA.

ghshockeyfan wrote:All sections - A & AA - will be realigned.

Also - some teams may move from A to AA and vice versa due to enrollment changes, as well as the "assisted lunch rule" counting change, and also the option for A teams to move/stay at AA.

Assisted lunch rule? Do you mean free and reduced lunches?
Why?
T

The sections are adjusted every two years. It happens to A two years in a row, b/c of the switch to 8 sections in the year that sections weren't realigned.

I'm told that the MSHSL has a new way to divide sections that they will use this year. Not sure how that will affect who ends up where. I was originally told the new sections were supposed to be out this past weekend, but since the deadline to opt up was this past Thursday, I anticipate we are few weeks out yet from seeing the new sections.

Should be interesting...

Schools have been told what classes their teams will be assigned to. The sections for fall and winter sports are in the process of being drawn and usually are announced sometime in early March. Spring sports are usually announced in mid-April.

Here are the old & new enrollment cutoffs:

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/2005-06enrollclass.htm

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/2007-08enrollclass.htm

Hockey Cutoff went up quite a bit... Note that the AA big # at the top was likely either the St. Paul or Mpls co-op I assume... now it has maybe been adjusted for assisted lunch???


Hockey, Girls
AA
3099-1435 - 07-08
8607-1151 - 05-06

A
1434-1 - 07-08
1150-1 - 05-06

NOTE the Note: -

Enrollment Adjustments:
When reviewing your school’s enrollment on our web site you are reminded that your enrollment for a particular activity may differ due to one or more of the following enrollment adjustments:

Cooperative sponsorship between two or more schools.
Cooperative sponsorship between two or more Class A schools in lifelong activities where one of the school’s enrollment is fewer than 150 students.
Cooperative sponsorship between two or more Class A schools in non-lifelong activities.

* Enrollment Disclaimer for Boys/Girls Basketball and Football
As you review the classification enrollment ranges for Boys/Girls Basketball and Football please be aware that these ranges will be affected by schools opting up. Once all opt up forms have been submitted to the League, we will adjust the enrollment ranges for these activities as required.


Old method:
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/method05-07.htm

Old Enrollments:
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/enrollments05.asp

ghshockeyfan wrote:Here are the old & new enrollment cutoffs:

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/2005-06enrollclass.htm

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/2007-08enrollclass.htm

Hockey Cutoff went up quite a bit... Note that the AA big # at the top was likely either the St. Paul or Mpls co-op I assume... now it has maybe been adjusted for assisted lunch???


Hockey, Girls
AA
3099-1435 - 07-08
8607-1151 - 05-06

A
1434-1 - 07-08
1150-1 - 05-06

NOTE the Note: -

Enrollment Adjustments:
When reviewing your school’s enrollment on our web site you are reminded that your enrollment for a particular activity may differ due to one or more of the following enrollment adjustments:

Cooperative sponsorship between two or more schools.
Cooperative sponsorship between two or more Class A schools in lifelong activities where one of the school’s enrollment is fewer than 150 students.
Cooperative sponsorship between two or more Class A schools in non-lifelong activities.

* Enrollment Disclaimer for Boys/Girls Basketball and Football
As you review the classification enrollment ranges for Boys/Girls Basketball and Football please be aware that these ranges will be affected by schools opting up. Once all opt up forms have been submitted to the League, we will adjust the enrollment ranges for these activities as required.


Old method:
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/method05-07.htm

Old Enrollments:
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/enrollments05.asp

That higher figure will pull alot of schools into A that were not there.
Opinions?

Twinnesota wrote:That higher figure will pull alot of schools into A that were not there.
Opinions?

Yes, but, we also have to wait for the opt-ups to be finalized. 4PM on 2/22 was the deadline for this I believe as JJ stated before...

I'm uncertain how things work from there...

http://children.state.mn.us/MDE/Data/Da ... index.html

Here is the info. on Enrollment & Free/Reduced Lunch #'s - 40% of those can be subtracted from the enrollment total?

Forgot to mention earlier that it may be that grades 9-12 are being counted this year for enrollment #'s vs. 10-12 in past??? Maybe that's why the higher A/AA cutoff vs. past??? Just a guess as I really don't know...

What will be interesting is whether the W/L record is a bigger factor than the geographical representation for section realignment. We all hear talk, rumors etc but what I have heard some say is that for the sections with 2-3 very strong teams they will leave them in there to keep battling it out, even if they are geographically separated.

Rumor is the new sections should be posted sometime Monday afternoon. I can't wait!

Should be interesting...

nothernewguy wrote:What will be interesting is whether the W/L record is a bigger factor than the geographical representation for section realignment. We all hear talk, rumors etc but what I have heard some say is that for the sections with 2-3 very strong teams they will leave them in there to keep battling it out, even if they are geographically separated.

If what you've heard is true then it would appear that they are at least considering each section's strength of teams, in addition to where the schools are located. Some have said that all that counts is the geography.

Strength of team has absolutely nothing to do with where teams are placed in a section. It is all about geography.