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hockeyfan893 wrote:
Or all privates to the small school tourney (where they belong according to enrollment).

It would bug me to have schools who can select who enrolls, be forced to play Class A. Using enrollment numbers for privates in Class A is Bull.

HomeBarkingDog wrote:

ubugme wrote:Ok, the Breck v New Ulm game is really bugging me...

The MSHSL has to end this sham.

all Privates to the big school tourney...end of problem

9-0 Breck end of 2nd period. Private schools to AA now! Pretty sad for New Ulm to come to the X only to get embarrassed.

hockeyfan893 wrote:

ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote:

hockeyfan893 wrote: Or all privates to the small school tourney (where they belong according to enrollment).

Then you have two highly competitive tournaments.

How about 1 class.

In my personal opinion, two highly competitive tournaments is better than a 1 class competitive tournament.

The only way I think a 1 class tournament would work is if you did NCAA Basketball style format starting with 32 teams or so.

I wasn't really trying to debate this. I was just archiving your stupid post about trying to make the private schools that have their students striving to be the best play down with the cherry pickers.

keep it respectable breck

StillAnEagle wrote: Pretty sad for New Ulm to come to the X only to get embarrassed.

I feel for the parents and grandparents.

Creating two classes was supposed to 'level the playing field'.

How can you not be bugged by this farce?

The MSHL needs to address this issue. School population numbers should have nothing to do what level they play at.

Breck 9 - New Ulm 0 after two periods is pathetic.

the two class system needs to off the talent pool these teams select from.

Basing them on enrollment of the school is completely pointless, and flawed...especially for private schools

It bugs me that goldfishdruid has to start a competing thread....

[quote="ACTUALFORMERPLAYER"][quote="hockeyfan893"][quote="ACTUALFORMERPLAYER"][quote="hockeyfan893"][quote="HomeBarkingDog"][quote="ubugme"]Ok, the Breck v New Ulm game is really bugging me...

The MSHSL has to end this sham.[/quote]

all Privates to the big school tourney...end of problem[/quote]

Or all privates to the small school tourney (where they belong according to enrollment).

Then you have two highly competitive tournaments.[/quote]How about 1 class.[/quote]

In my personal opinion, two highly competitive tournaments is better than a 1 class competitive tournament.

The only way I think a 1 class tournament would work is if you did NCAA Basketball style format starting with 32 teams or so.[/quote]I wasn't really trying to debate this. I was just archiving your stupid post about trying to make the private schools that have their students striving to be the best play down with the cherry pickers.[/quote]

Right, because a class A tournament with competition between Breck, St Thomas, Hill Murray, Cretin, Benilde, Duluth Marshall and Holy Angels, Warroad, Mahtomedi, Herman town, (etc etc) would be a tournament FILLED with cherry pickers right?

So much weak competition there.

This is just to archive your lack of understanding what a competitive single A tournament would look like.

endangeredHawkfan wrote:The MSHL needs to address this issue. School population numbers should have nothing to do what level they play at.

Breck 9 - New Ulm 0 after two periods is pathetic.

Hawkfan, it bugs me that I have never read a first post that made more sense....

ubugme wrote:

endangeredHawkfan wrote:The MSHL needs to address this issue. School population numbers should have nothing to do what level they play at.

Breck 9 - New Ulm 0 after two periods is pathetic.

Hawkfan, it bugs me that I have never read a first post that made more sense....

Read my handle. I've got a lot of pent up frustration with the state of youth/HS hockey in Minnesota. I finally had to register and log in here.

This is exactly what Breck wants, this why they only played 2 AA schools all year. They want to be the best but don't want to play the best.

It's getting to the point where either all private schools go to AA with an appeal process or they need to be out of the MSHSL all together.

Of the last 20 teams to play for a class A state title 12 have been private schools, Warroad accounts for 4 of the remaining 8, Simley, Orono, Red Wing, and Hermantown are the remaining 4 teams.

goldy313 wrote:This is exactly what Breck wants, this why they only played 2 AA schools all year. They want to be the best but don't want to play the best.

It's getting to the point where either all private schools go to AA with an appeal process or they need to be out of the MSHSL all together.

Of the last 20 teams to play for a class A state title 12 have been private schools, Warroad accounts for 4 of the remaining 8, Simley, Orono, Red Wing, and Hermantown are the remaining 4 teams.

when it comes down to it..These metro all star teams pick from a bigger area than the BIG schools like Tonka, EP, Edina...

but yet..they want to play A ...its laughable..

I love your idea tho..You go to AA, or you leave the MSHSL

goldy313 wrote:This is exactly what Breck wants, this why they only played 2 AA schools all year. They want to be the best but don't want to play the best.

It's getting to the point where either all private schools go to AA with an appeal process or they need to be out of the MSHSL all together.

Of the last 20 teams to play for a class A state title 12 have been private schools, Warroad accounts for 4 of the remaining 8, Simley, Orono, Red Wing, and Hermantown are the remaining 4 teams.

As a Breck parent, how could you not be embarrassed?

I don't think Breck is leaving A unless they are forced to. Even though their school is relatively close to wayzata, edina, tonka, EP, Holy Angels, Jefferson, and other good programs they don't schedule a single game against these teams. They are willing to go to Red Wing, St. Clound and even down to play shattuck.
They are content being the big fish in their pond. Too bad for New Ulm.

47 players tried out for Brecks varsity, and they play single A hockey?
THATS embarassing.
NU barely has more than that in the whole youth association.
Its not brain surgery.
The Privates play AA, along with the huge schools.
The Irondales and River Lakes of the world play A.
It simply has to happen.
Or maybe not. No one's ever accused the MSHSL of excessive sensibility.

BBB wrote: Too bad for New Ulm.

Whats too bad is they didn't bring enough goalies....

Breck should be really proud right now.

This is a slap in the face to all who ever played in the one class system The Minnesota Highschool league is totally disrespectful . Hockey fans all over must demand it be fixed. Whatever it takes.We will go broke giving everyone a medal of participation (lol)

Time for Breck to move up to AA !

what class showed by breck


sure glad we dont have any schools that recruit in ND

In fairness to the MSHL, in the 90's class A was pretty fair and balanced. the only two private schools to play for a class A championship were Totino and Benilde. Since 2000 though, it has been pretty ridiculous, and I think everyone agrees it is time for a change.

One of those big mugs from New Ulm should ragdoll one of those little 5-5 guys on Breck. That would give them something to cheer about. That reminds me, why don't they do the sportsmanship speech with a player from each team to start the game?

this wouldnt be a problem if all private schools stayed at single A in the first place. They started the problem by moving themselves up-idiots

im not to familiar with mn hockey but IMO there sbould be A and a private school division.

and whoever wants to play in the priate school division should be able to play at that level if they want