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Don't see it. Their SOS will be the best thing for them, but will only hurt them in the rankings. Where are all the rankings that involve SOS as well?

LPH rankings 12/4/08
(same as Star Tribune for Top 15 in each class)

Class AA
1 HOPKINS
2 Roseville
3 Stillwater
4 Hill-Murray
5 Edina
6 Grand Rapids/Greenway
7 Minnetonka
8 Proctor/Hermantown
9 Irondale
10 Benilde-St. Margaret’s
11 White Bear Lake
12 Centennial
13 Blaine
14 Eagan
15 Cloquet
16 Holy Angels
17 Duluth
18 Wayzata
19 Andover
20 Eastview

Class A
1 ROSEAU
2 Blake
3 Warroad
4 Breck
5 Alexandria
6 Crookston/Red Lake
7 Mankato West
8 Mound Westonka
9 South St. Paul
10 Hutchinson
11 Henry Sibley
12 Hibbing/Chisholm
13 Totino-Grace
14 Northfield
15 Visitation/SPA United
16 East Grand Forks
17 Fergus Falls
18 Orono
19 Albert Lea
20 New Prague

Got to love the LPH rankings. Hill moves up one but hasn’t played anyone, same with Irondale they move up based on their win against NSP, but WBL drops two after beating those same polar’s along with two others and BSM jumps up two off two ties. What ever happen to the QRF? I liked having the ability to compare and contrast teams from one source based on speculation (LPH) and one that is firmly with out bias (QRF).

First QRF of the year comes out on Monday.

Looking forward to it. Thanks

QRF rankings will be at www.minnesota-scores.net

Warroad vs. Roseau here is a recap of these two top teams in games against metro teams.

Warroad 2 Minnetonka 1
Warroad 8 AHA 1
Warroad 6 Hill Murray 0
Warroad 4 Edina 1

Roseau 4 AHA 1
Roeasu 3 Minnetonka 1
Roseau 1 Edina 2
Roseau 2 Hill Murray 3 OT

Not sure this is 100% but here is a look at records of the top AA teams. The QRF tomorrow will add another demension.

Class AA Lets Play Hockey 12-04-08
1 Hopkins.................6-0-0
2 Roseville.................6-1-0 (lost to Hopkins)
3 Stillwater................5-1-0 (lost to Hill Murray)
4 Hill-Murray..............3-1-0 (lost to Warroad)
5 Edina.....................3-3-1 (lost to Blake, Stillwater, Warroad)
6 Grand Rapids..........6-1-0 (lost to Roseville)
7 Minnetonka.............3-3-0 (lost to Roseau, Warroad, Centennial)
8 Proctor/Hermantown.5-1-0 (lost to NSP)
9 Irondale..................4-1-0 (lost to Proctor)
10 BSM......................1-2-2 (lost to Cloquet, GRG, tied Edina, Wayzata)
11 White Bear Lake.....4-3-0 (lost to Hill Murray, GRG, Roseville in OT)
12 Centennial.............4-2-0 (lost to Hopkins, Blaine)
13 Blaine...................4-2-1 (lost to Edina, GRG, tied Andover)
14 Eagan...................6-1-0 (lost to Breck)
15 Cloquet.................4-3-0 (lost to Stillwater, Duluth, GRG)
16 Holy Angels...........4-3-0 (lost to Hutchison, Warroad, Roseau)
17 Duluth...................6-1-0 (lost to GRG)
18 Wayzata................3-3-1 (lost to Mayo, Proctor, N. Metro, tied BSM)
19 Andover................2-4-1 (lost to Moundsview, Irondale, MG, Centennial, tied Blaine)
20 Eastview...............5-1-1 (lost to Breck, tied Hastings)

Of note is unranked East Wright County 7-0-0

joehockey wrote:Of note is unranked East Wright County 7-0-0

StarTrib had them losing Friday night, Buffalo 3, North Wright County 0 F, is that wrong?

hockeyrube7 wrote:

joehockey wrote:Of note is unranked East Wright County 7-0-0

StarTrib had them losing Friday night, Buffalo 3, North Wright County 0 F, is that wrong?

Assuming joehockey meant North Wright County (I don't believe there is an East Wright County) then they are no longer undefeated:

http://mghca.com/test/scoreboard.php?va ... =2008-12-5

I was thinking after this weekend's games that there might be just one undefeated AA team left (Hopkins) and this appears to be the case. Thanks to joehockey for posting the teams' records and the footnotes. Lots of parity this year! Looking ahead and trying to guess who might knock Hopkins off it's throne, it looks like Minnetonka (Dec. 16) and Edina (Dec. 20) will have the best chance, prior to the Edina tourney Jan. 1-3.

At least for now, you'd probably have to say that, besides Hopkins, only undefeated Warroad can lay a legitimate claim on being the best team in the State overall. They had an incredible weekend, and now have wins over five ranked teams: Minnetonka, Holy Angels, Crookston, Hill Murray and Edina. Undefeated Blake is excellent also, but so far they have only beaten two ranked teams, Breck and Edina. So you would think Warroad will jump over Blake and take over the No. 1 position in Class A this week. I would guess:
1. Warroad
2. Blake and
3. Roseau
is how it'll end up in A.

In AA we may not see any change in the Top 4, but I would guess GR/G will take over at No. 5.

I agree with MNHockeyFan. The QRF rankings should help define things a little too. Warroad is very good and proved it this weedend. Being a Hopkins fan, I wish we played Warroad this year.

MNHockeyFan wrote:I was thinking after this weekend's games that there might be just one undefeated AA team left (Hopkins) and this appears to be the case. Thanks to joehockey for posting the teams' records and the footnotes. Lots of parity this year! Looking ahead and trying to guess who might knock Hopkins off it's throne, it looks like Minnetonka (Dec. 16) and Edina (Dec. 20) will have the best chance, prior to the Edina tourney Jan. 1-3.

At least for now, you'd probably have to say that, besides Hopkins, only undefeated Warroad can lay a legitimate claim on being the best team in the State overall. They had an incredible weekend, and now have wins over five ranked teams: Minnetonka, Holy Angels, Crookston, Hill Murray and Edina. Undefeated Blake is excellent also, but so far they have only beaten two ranked teams, Breck and Edina. So you would think Warroad will jump over Blake and take over the No. 1 position in Class A this week. I would guess:
1. Warroad
2. Blake and
3. Roseau
is how it'll end up in A.

In AA we may not see any change in the Top 4, but I would guess GR/G will take over at No. 5.

hockeyrube7 wrote:

joehockey wrote:Of note is unranked East Wright County 7-0-0

StarTrib had them losing Friday night, Buffalo 3, North Wright County 0 F, is that wrong?

Sorry thanks for correction and apologize on my error not sure why I said East.....

PIONEER PRESS RANKINGS 12/9/08

1. Hopkins

2. Roseville

3. Blake

4. Hill-Murray

5. Stillwater

6. Eagan

7. Farmington

8. Irondale

9. Northfield

10. Eastview

joehockey wrote:PIONEER PRESS RANKINGS 12/9/08

1. Hopkins

2. Roseville

3. Blake

4. Hill-Murray

5. Stillwater

6. Eagan

7. Farmington

8. Irondale

9. Northfield

10. Eastview

Since the Pioneer Press has Farmington in the top 10 maybe the Edina vs. Farmington game should be on the games of the week this week.

I don't see Edina in those rankings. Then again those rankings are a joke.

OntheEdge wrote:Since the Pioneer Press has Farmington in the top 10 maybe the Edina vs. Farmington game should be on the games of the week this week.

Edge, did you forget to add one of these?

If Farmington beats "unranked Edina" (according to the Pioneer Press) then we'll start adding them to the Big Games thread next week.

joehockey wrote:

hockeyrube7 wrote:

joehockey wrote:Of note is unranked East Wright County 7-0-0

StarTrib had them losing Friday night, Buffalo 3, North Wright County 0 F, is that wrong?

Sorry thanks for correction and apologize on my error not sure why I said East.....

hockeyrube7,

Easy mistake since the North Wright County River Hawks youth teams did originally play as the East Wright County Lightning. Today, both the youth and high school co-ops play as the River Hawks.

Also, I think the Buffalo win was an upset (I'm a Buffalo supporter). This is the River Hawks year and I suspect only Elk River and Bemidji could possibly stand in their way of a state tournament visit.

Silent But Deadly wrote:

joehockey wrote:

hockeyrube7 wrote: StarTrib had them losing Friday night, Buffalo 3, North Wright County 0 F, is that wrong?

Sorry thanks for correction and apologize on my error not sure why I said East.....

hockeyrube7,

Easy mistake since the North Wright County River Hawks youth teams did originally play as the East Wright County Lightning. Today, both the youth and high school co-ops play as the River Hawks.

Also, I think the Buffalo win was an upset (I'm a Buffalo supporter). This is the River Hawks year and I suspect only Elk River and Bemidji could possibly stand in their way of a state tournament visit.

No arguement here! Just making sure. So if you were all still Wright County as in the old days, I bet they would be even better. Must have been a great rivalry game.

Silent But Deadly wrote:

joehockey wrote:

hockeyrube7 wrote: StarTrib had them losing Friday night, Buffalo 3, North Wright County 0 F, is that wrong?

Sorry thanks for correction and apologize on my error not sure why I said East.....

hockeyrube7,

Easy mistake since the North Wright County River Hawks youth teams did originally play as the East Wright County Lightning. Today, both the youth and high school co-ops play as the River Hawks.

Also, I think the Buffalo win was an upset (I'm a Buffalo supporter). This is the River Hawks year and I suspect only Elk River and Bemidji could possibly stand in their way of a state tournament visit.

I would agree with that. Moorhead was totally out played by Bemidji even though he score was close. Shots were something lke 2-1 and time of possession was very lopsided

hockeyrube7 wrote: No arguement here! Just making sure. So if you were all still Wright County as in the old days, I bet they would be even better. Must have been a great rivalry game.

Back then it was the Wright County Blades....they made one trip to the big show before the co-op was split up.

There is definitely a rivalry.....with the winner getting the traveling "cup"!

However, during the off season players from both teams (plus some Elk River & Rogers players) play together on the Northern Lights so it's a friendly rivalry.

Lets Play Hockey Coaches Rankings 12/11-12/4-11/26-11/20
(Not sure this is 100% but here is a look at records of the top AA teams - Still need the QRF to add another demension)

Class AA Lets Play Hockey
1/1/3/4 Hopkins (4)...............6-0-0
2/2/2/3 Roseville (1).............7-1-0 (lost to Hopkins)
3/3/4/2 Stillwater (1).............6-1-0 (lost to Hill Murray)
4/4/5/8 Hill-Murray................4-1-0 (lost to Warroad)
5/5/1/1 Edina........................3-3-1 (lost to Blake, Stillwater, Warroad)
6/6/7/6 GRG.........................6-1-0 (lost to Roseville)
7/7/6/5 Minnetonka...............4-3-1 (lost to Roseau, Warroad, Centennial, tied Blaine)
8/9/10/14 Irondale................5-1-0 (lost to Proctor)
9/12/8/7 Centennial..............4-2-0 (lost to Hopkins, Blaine)
10/8/11/15 Proctor................5-1-0 (lost to NSP)
11/13/13/13 Blaine...............4-2-2 (lost to Edina, GRG, tied Andover, Minnetonka)
12/10/12/12 BSM..................2-2-2 (lost to Cloquet, GRG, tied Edina, Wayzata)
13/11/9/9 White Bear Lake....5-3-0 (lost to Hill Murray, GRG, Roseville in OT)
14/15/17/18 Cloquet.............6-3-0 (lost to Stillwater, Duluth, GRG)
15/14/14/19 Eagan...............7-1-0 (lost to Breck)
16 Duluth.............................7-1-0 (lost to GRG)
17 Holy Angels.....................5-3-0 (lost to Hutchison, Warroad, Roseau)
18 Wayzata..........................3-3-1 (lost to Mayo, Proctor, N. Metro, tied BSM)
19 Andover..........................2-4-2 (lost to Moundsview, Irondale, MG, Centennial, tied Blaine, N. Metro)
20 Eastview..........................5-1-1 (lost to Breck, tied Hastings)

A
1 BLAKE
2 Warroad
3 Roseau
4 Breck
5 Crookston/Red Lake
6 Alexandria
7 Mankato West
8 Mound Westonka
9 South St. Paul
10 Hutchinson
11 Northfield
12 Totino-Grace
13 Hibbing/Chisholm
14 Henry Sibley
15 Visitation/SPA United
16 East Grand Forks
17 Fergus Falls
18 Orono
19 Albert Lea
20 Richfield

Probably no big surprises in AA but based on Warroad's performance this past weekend you would have thought they would take over No. 1 in A (even though Blake obviously has an outstanding team also).

I don't get how Andover stays in here.

I don't understand why WBL keeps falling. Only losses were to top five teams, two of which went to OT.