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cutanddrive wrote:Anyone hear how Tom Pohl is doing?

boblee wrote:

cutanddrive wrote:Anyone hear how Tom Pohl is doing?

Broken nose and concussion. He will be fine but is not expected to play this weekend.

rwhshf wrote:

boblee wrote:

cutanddrive wrote:Anyone hear how Tom Pohl is doing?

Broken nose and concussion. He will be fine but is not expected to play this weekend.

I go to Red Wing, and a couple teachers (who are friends with Jim Pohl) were telling us he was in surgery this morning at Mayo. Possible skull fracture..

PuckRanger wrote:

new2hockey wrote:In the WCHA he doesn't have to interfere, just be in the crease. However, he was NUDGED in. Why did the green light go on before the red light is my question?

Because the goal judge was slower than the clock operator. Thats all. Green light goes on when the clock stops, red light goes on when the switch is flipped.

The NCAA does have the crease rules that allow a player to go in the crease before a goal is scored. Here is the rule change:

Rule 6-19-c (7), Goals and Assists. The committee changed this rule to read:
"c. A goal shall not be allowed in any of the following cases:...
(7) If any member of the attacking team (other than the player in possession of the puck) was in or skating throught the goal crease when the goal was scored from outside the crease, unless:
i. The goalkeeper was outside the crease when the goal was scored; or
ii. An attacking player was in the crease but, in the opinion of the official, did not prevent the goalkeeper from defending the goal."

Rationale: In response to overwhelming support from the coaching community, the committee decided to allow the referee more discretion when goals are scored with a player in the goalkeeper's crease. This comes into play most often when video replay is used (e.g., NCAA championships) and goals are disallowed that would have been allowed during the regular season. The committee will reinforce that this should not be seen as lessening the protection of the goalkeeper; however, when an attacking player does not affect an otherwise legal goal, the committee feels it should be allowed.

Lucia did in no way make contact with the goaltender before he knocked the puck in, nor did he interfere with the goaltender's ability to make the save. Whether he was pushed in or not is irrelevant. The call was 100% correct.

The goal that 61ache brought up from earlier in the game, was never a disallowed goal. 1) The puck was never in the net - Kangas kept his glove outside the red line as he was barreled into the net. 2) Even if it were across the goal line, it was because of the contact with the goaltender from the Mankato player. Your not calling a spade a spade, your calling a spade a diamond - these were not even close to the same scenario. I should point out that there was no objection from the Mankato bench, goalie, or players when the winning goal was scored. The goal was only reviewed as more of a formality - not at the request of the Mankato.

61ache wrote:

rwhshf wrote:

boblee wrote: Broken nose and concussion. He will be fine but is not expected to play this weekend.

I go to Red Wing, and a couple teachers (who are friends with Jim Pohl) were telling us he was in surgery this morning at Mayo. Possible skull fracture..

That's what Pioneer Press is saying

http://www.twincities.com/gophers/ci_86 ... ck_check=1

61ache wrote:Lucia is pushed in, from about the top of the circle, shot on net, goaltender covers and Lucia wacks it in before a whistle. 9 games out of 10 I'm tipping my hat to Lucia for a heads up play--Gophers get a bounce and move on. In fact the outcome I'd been hoping for cause if we're really lucky we'll see another Sioux Gopher game, and after the last game and the bad blood between the two should make for an awesome spectacle.

However, if you consistently disallow goals for goaltender interference against one team, and then allow a goal, in o.t. for the other where an argument can easily be made comparing goals d.q'd prior--this is the issue. This isn't about the Gophers stealing one, or Mankato getting robbed, but of pure and simple bad and inconsistent officiating. Period. If you don't see the officiating issue you're really lying to yourself. Everyone on here I'm sure is perfectly aware of Shepard's history. It's about time that the WCHA takes care of the problem. He's been involved in altercations, complaining, and suspensions from coaches and players around the league protesting his abysmal performance, and yet the league does nothing. Ridiculous.

Zimmy wrote:Watch out for the Mavs next year, they are going to be even tougher!!!!!!

Zimmy wrote:This still is was one if not the best college hockey series I have ever witnessed. It sucks that one team had to lose but the Gophers were the ones standing at the end. Congrats to them and good luck in the WCHA final five. Watch out for the Mavs next year, they are going to be even tougher!!!!!!

PuckRanger wrote:

new2hockey wrote:In the WCHA he doesn't have to interfere, just be in the crease. However, he was NUDGED in. Why did the green light go on before the red light is my question?

Because the goal judge was slower than the clock operator. Thats all. Green light goes on when the clock stops, red light goes on when the switch is flipped.

The NCAA does have the crease rules that allow a player to go in the crease before a goal is scored. Here is the rule change:

Rule 6-19-c (7), Goals and Assists. The committee changed this rule to read:
"c. A goal shall not be allowed in any of the following cases:...
(7) If any member of the attacking team (other than the player in possession of the puck) was in or skating throught the goal crease when the goal was scored from outside the crease, unless:
i. The goalkeeper was outside the crease when the goal was scored; or
ii. An attacking player was in the crease but, in the opinion of the official, did not prevent the goalkeeper from defending the goal."

Rationale: In response to overwhelming support from the coaching community, the committee decided to allow the referee more discretion when goals are scored with a player in the goalkeeper's crease. This comes into play most often when video replay is used (e.g., NCAA championships) and goals are disallowed that would have been allowed during the regular season. The committee will reinforce that this should not be seen as lessening the protection of the goalkeeper; however, when an attacking player does not affect an otherwise legal goal, the committee feels it should be allowed.

Lucia did in no way make contact with the goaltender before he knocked the puck in, nor did he interfere with the goaltender's ability to make the save. Whether he was pushed in or not is irrelevant. The call was 100% correct.

The goal that 61ache brought up from earlier in the game, was never a disallowed goal. 1) The puck was never in the net - Kangas kept his glove outside the red line as he was barreled into the net. 2) Even if it were across the goal line, it was because of the contact with the goaltender from the Mankato player. Your not calling a spade a spade, your calling a spade a diamond - these were not even close to the same scenario. I should point out that there was no objection from the Mankato bench, goalie, or players when the winning goal was scored. The goal was only reviewed as more of a formality - not at the request of the Mankato.

Reggie wrote:

PuckRanger wrote:

new2hockey wrote:In the WCHA he doesn't have to interfere, just be in the crease. However, he was NUDGED in. Why did the green light go on before the red light is my question?

Because the goal judge was slower than the clock operator. Thats all. Green light goes on when the clock stops, red light goes on when the switch is flipped.

The NCAA does have the crease rules that allow a player to go in the crease before a goal is scored. Here is the rule change:

Rule 6-19-c (7), Goals and Assists. The committee changed this rule to read:
"c. A goal shall not be allowed in any of the following cases:...
(7) If any member of the attacking team (other than the player in possession of the puck) was in or skating throught the goal crease when the goal was scored from outside the crease, unless:
i. The goalkeeper was outside the crease when the goal was scored; or
ii. An attacking player was in the crease but, in the opinion of the official, did not prevent the goalkeeper from defending the goal."

Rationale: In response to overwhelming support from the coaching community, the committee decided to allow the referee more discretion when goals are scored with a player in the goalkeeper's crease. This comes into play most often when video replay is used (e.g., NCAA championships) and goals are disallowed that would have been allowed during the regular season. The committee will reinforce that this should not be seen as lessening the protection of the goalkeeper; however, when an attacking player does not affect an otherwise legal goal, the committee feels it should be allowed.

Lucia did in no way make contact with the goaltender before he knocked the puck in, nor did he interfere with the goaltender's ability to make the save. Whether he was pushed in or not is irrelevant. The call was 100% correct.

The goal that 61ache brought up from earlier in the game, was never a disallowed goal. 1) The puck was never in the net - Kangas kept his glove outside the red line as he was barreled into the net. 2) Even if it were across the goal line, it was because of the contact with the goaltender from the Mankato player. Your not calling a spade a spade, your calling a spade a diamond - these were not even close to the same scenario. I should point out that there was no objection from the Mankato bench, goalie, or players when the winning goal was scored. The goal was only reviewed as more of a formality - not at the request of the Mankato.

Nice work!

Hockey Bob wrote:I thought the series was great. One of the better series in a long time. The officiating, however, might rank as some of the worst I have seen.

Watching the replay of the hit Pohl took got me to thinking about how his helmet cam off so easily. Did he even have his chin strap on?

61ache wrote:

Hockey Bob wrote:I thought the series was great. One of the better series in a long time. The officiating, however, might rank as some of the worst I have seen.

Watching the replay of the hit Pohl took got me to thinking about how his helmet cam off so easily. Did he even have his chin strap on?

Yeah, it came off pretty easy. Not sure if it was strapped, not strapped, or just a freak thing.