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I haven't seen Irondale in any top 20s--their only losses are to Breck and BSM. Does anybody know if they're for real? I see they don't have a lot of quality wins and none against top 20 opponents. But they've beaten MV and North now.

Here is the complete top 20...

1 EDEN PRAIRIE
2 Holy Angels
3 Roseville
4 Edina
5 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
6 Bemidji
7 Cretin-Derham Hall
8 Benilde-St. Marg.
9 Coon Rapids
10 Wayzata
11 Burnsville
12 Centennial
13 Eagan
14 G Rapids/Greenway
15 Forest Lake
16 Stillwater
17 Moorhead
18 Blaine
19 White Bear Lake
20 Maple Grove

xk1 wrote:Here is the complete top 20...

1 EDEN PRAIRIE
2 Holy Angels
3 Roseville
4 Edina
5 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
6 Bemidji
7 Cretin-Derham Hall
8 Benilde-St. Marg.
9 Coon Rapids
10 Wayzata
11 Burnsville
12 Centennial
13 Eagan
14 G Rapids/Greenway
15 Forest Lake
16 Stillwater
17 Moorhead
18 Blaine
19 White Bear Lake
20 Maple Grove

Hill Murray should be considered for this list. Played strong SOS close.

Hastings too maybe?

Irondale playing well, along with Armstrong, but still early...

Re: Irondale. I see Anna McDonald's younger sister, Gina is scoring quite a bit for Irondale.

hastings and irondale should be on the list, I wonder if stillwater really should be, they are not looking as fearsome as they ussally do...everything should fall into place after christmas and then th list will reflect a truer picture of where teams should be

xwildfan wrote:Re: Irondale. I see Anna McDonald's younger sister, Gina is scoring quite a bit for Irondale.

This is true. Nice young player.

hockeygod wrote:hastings and irondale should be on the list, I wonder if stillwater really should be, they are not looking as fearsome as they ussally do...everything should fall into place after christmas and then th list will reflect a truer picture of where teams should be

Unfortunately for Irondale they may have a tougher road to get ranked than most as they haven't been a ranked program historically. This is some of the bias that is shown though when you enter humans into the ranking process instead of just looking at W's & SOS.

I'm not certain that anyone should be so quick to write-off SW. Simply too many good solid players there, good coach, etc., etc. I would think that any team that loses a player of Jones' caliber and that also plays that SOS would need a period of acclimation.

It's just too early to tell with many teams I think.

I wouldnt write off stillwater yet. They dont have a superstar anymore but they do have 3 solid lines a very good defense and two solid goalies. I think there senior goalie is underrated. They wont blow anyone out anymore but I also dont think there is a team in the state that they cant play with.

Bensonmum wrote:I haven't seen Irondale in any top 20s--their only losses are to Breck and BSM. Does anybody know if they're for real? I see they don't have a lot of quality wins and none against top 20 opponents. But they've beaten MV and North now.

Ironedale is for real, 6 to 8 excellent skaters, 3 to 4 elite maybe, and a fantastic goalie. Only problem is, they have no depth, and other than Udvig are very young. They skate primarily 2 lines or less all game.

HM again shows they are a team deserving of consideration. Top SOS and many close games against top teams. 2-1 L with 1:30 left in OT with nearly equal shot count vs #5AA CEC illustrates this.

HM is going to end up to be rated about number 30 in the state, they are severely lacking in the scoring department, they have one of the best defensemen in the state with Casey Knajeck (Her name is spelled wrong) who shuts down other team and is on the ice for 2/3 of the game Kristen Peterson is a very solid D when she's on the ice and that makes them tough to score on but right now the stumph girl is the scoring threat

GIRLS' HOCKEY AP 12-12-06

1. Eden Prairie, 4-0

2. Holy Angels, 9-0

3. Roseville, 7-1

4. Edina, 7-0-2

5. Cretin-Derham Hall, 8-1

6. Benilde-St. Margaret's, 6-2

7. Coon Rapids, 5-2

8. South St. Paul, 7-2

9. Blake, 5-3

10. Wayzata, 5-0-3

hockeywise wrote:GIRLS' HOCKEY AP 12-12-06

1. Eden Prairie, 4-0

2. Holy Angels, 9-0

3. Roseville, 7-1

4. Edina, 7-0-2

5. Cretin-Derham Hall, 8-1

6. Benilde-St. Margaret's, 6-2

7. Coon Rapids, 5-2

8. South St. Paul, 7-2

9. Blake, 5-3

10. Wayzata, 5-0-3

This is from the Star Trib I assume. PP has their own today as well I see...

It's interesting to see how readership may influence these - or at least it can seem that way...

Looking back at who was rated last week AP wise I seen Wayzata was rated 10th and Coon Rapids 9th. Interesting, Wayzata beat Coon Rapids but yet Coon Rapids in the dropped hmmmmm...

Anyway we have a game Saturday with Wayzata and that should be fun.

Class 2A

• 1. Eden Prairie (7), 2. Holy Angels, 3. Roseville, 4. Edina, 5. Benilde-St. Margaret's, 6. Wayzata, 7. Cloquet/Esko/Carlton, 8. Bemidji, 9. Cretin-Derham Hall, 10. Coon Rapids, 11. Centennial, 12. Stillwater, 13. Eagan, 14. Forest Lake, 15. Burnsville.

Not sure how Stillwater can be ranked behind CDH. Stillwater thrashed CDH 5-1 this week.

xwildfan wrote:Not sure how Stillwater can be ranked behind CDH. Stillwater thrashed CDH 5-1 this week.

I'm guessing that some look at more than just this one game, but I'm not saying I personally agree or disagree...

Why has EP only played 4 games while everybody else is around 10 games??

d1wannabe wrote:Why has EP only played 4 games while everybody else is around 10 games??

Their choice of scheduling I assume.

LPH top 20 12-14

1 EDEN PRAIRIE
2 Holy Angels
3 Roseville
4 Edina
5 Benilde-St. Margaret’s
6 Wayzata
7 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
8 Bemidji
9 Cretin-Derham Hall
10 Coon Rapids
11 Centennial
12 Stillwater
13 Eagan
14 Forest Lake
15 Burnsville
16 Moorhead
17 North Metro Stars
18 Hastings
19 Robbins. Armstrong
20 Duluth North Stars

xk1 wrote:LPH top 20 12-14

1 EDEN PRAIRIE
2 Holy Angels
3 Roseville
4 Edina
5 Benilde-St. Margaret’s
6 Wayzata
7 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
8 Bemidji
9 Cretin-Derham Hall
10 Coon Rapids
11 Centennial
12 Stillwater
13 Eagan
14 Forest Lake
15 Burnsville
16 Moorhead
17 North Metro Stars
18 Hastings
19 Robbins. Armstrong
20 Duluth North Stars

Hill-Murray should be considered for this list... Others for Honorable Mention include Irondale, Mayo, MNTKA, WBL, Blaine, MV, Hopkins, GRG based on SOS, etc.

its about time duluth got recognized

HOCKEY • GIRLS

• Associated Press polls for Minnesota girls' high school hockey, provided by Let's Play Hockey newspaper. First-place votes are in parentheses.

• Class 2A: 1. Eden Prairie (7), 2. Holy Angels, 3. Edina, 4. Roseville, 5. Benilde-St. Margaret's, 6. Cloquet/Esko/Carlton, 7. Bemidji, 8. Wayzata, 9. Stillwater, 10. Coon Rapids, 11. Centennial, 12. Cretin-Derham Hall, 13. Eagan, 14. Forest Lake, 15. Moorhead.

12-21 LPH

1 EDEN PRAIRIE
2 Holy Angels
3 Edina
4 Roseville
5 Benilde-St. Margaret’s
6 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
7 Bemidji
8 Wayzata
9 Stillwater
10 Coon Rapids
11 Centennial
12 Cretin-Derham Hall
13 Eagan
14 Forest Lake
15 Moorhead
16 Burnsville
17 Hastings
18 Blaine
19 Robbins. Armstrong
20 Duluth North Stars

from the star tribune 12/26/06

GIRLS' HOCKEY

(Class 2A unless noted)

1. Eden Prairie, 9-0

2. Edina, 11-0-2

3. Holy Angels, 11-1

4. Benilde-St. Margaret's, 9-2

5. Roseville, 8-2-2

6. Coon Rapids, 9-3

7. South St. Paul (1A), 10-3

8. Blake (1A), 9-3

9. Cretin-Derham Hall, 8-3-1

10. Centennial, 8-3